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by Living Fence on 21 November 2015 - 16:11

PS I forgot to mention:

Vacuum cleaner brushes and vacuum dirt bags (or, if it is bag free, the dirt canister) as well as brooms and hand brushes can collect and then spread flea eggs. I would toss brooms and brushes that have been used on areas with fleas. Remove the vacuum bag right away even if it's not full. Use a vacuum attachment without a brush.
Recontamination happens so quickly.

I so hope you can resolve it, best of luck!


AnaSilva

by AnaSilva on 21 November 2015 - 16:11

alienor, Living Fence... Ouch... when we think we are doing it right we discover that we may have made it worse... Thanks for the awakening.... Learned that with a vet that I worked on, I'm a vet "helper/tech" (don't really know how to translate it), and this is actually one of the most used methods by breeders around this area... dust all the kennels... Living and learning right? But I will definitely listen to you guys... Will it help to take the dust out with bath?
alienor yes vets are not graded by niceness, know one particular vet that is the worse person ever, is scared of dogs, and is mean and rude, whoever it is one of the best surgeons I know... I go to 2 vets, Bruno and Luís, and they are all excellent vets, Bruno was one of the first ever vets I met, wounder full honest person and vet, Luís I know since I have Becky, meaning for almost 2 years, and when he does not know e assumes it and send us to Bruno :)

Thanks again for the help!

by Living Fence on 21 November 2015 - 18:11

Another route for reinfection with fleas are of course other animals: Dogs she plays with, also (don't know how much of an issue it is where you live) contact with some wildlife (hedgehogs in Europe, oh those fleas!)
All one can do is be careful whom she interacts with and check for fleas daily. Usually first parts to see fleas on is where the skin is soft, fur is sparse, and underlying tissue is well supplied with blood. Thus around the ears, private parts, and armpits are prime locations and easy to check – but fleas can also be on other body parts.

Carbaryl has been outlawed in several European countries. To my knowledge, it had been approved for use on crops only (garden, commercial agriculture), not for use in houses or in animal living quarters. I heard in the US some folks have used it in chicken coops. Chicken get slaughtered when they stop producing eggs, so any losses due to the effects of carbaryl on hormonal regulation may not matter much to the chicken owners. But I wouldn't use it in dog kennels or houses, most certainly not.

Itching can be so torturous. Best of luck to you and your dog!

by stoelzle on 21 November 2015 - 22:11

In light of all the really significant information that has been shared here......I risk embarrassment but thought I would just add my 2 cents....Appears you have found a dog food that works for her. Great.
I lived, with my 2 GSDs in Hawaii for 23 years-no way around the flea problem there except to have the professionals come in and do a thurough flea bust-while you stay some place else- let them do inside and out. Perhaps there is a relative or friend you can stay with-also, a good opportunity to see if it really is your home she is allergic to. Unfortunately, follow up was to use the monthly back of the neck application of the flea stuff. Awful poisen but they both survived to old age.
Rent a room, take a car trip, camp out in a dry fleless area so that you can determine if the problem has anything at all to do with your home.

At the start (or before anything else.....go to your local health food store and pick up a container of "Primal Defense".
Give it to her mixed in with whatever it is you are feeding her-everyday. Try it for a month and see if it does anything to restore her health. Worse comes to worse, you willnot have wasted your money, you can take it yourself. It really changed things around here.
Blessings.

AnaSilva

by AnaSilva on 22 November 2015 - 10:11

Living Fence it was the same thing with a lot of other products, apparently we are miles away from those countries on a lot of stuff, stuff that even vets recommend that I've seen people here saying it's sooo bad =( don't believe everything I read but after research and so many people talking about it (like the seresto collar! consider at the time the greatest flea collar on the market) I have to believe it... Carbaryl here is still not only legal but used by everyone I know in the dog world... But after reading your advices and doing some research I will definitely stop it and am really scared I might have cause all of this =( can't thank you guys enough for the help!

stoelzle yes we did find a kibble that she does not react to, it can not be the best of the bests (although currently considered one of the top kibbles in our market, and , again, after some international research find out it is no good...) but she does not react to it, it is the salmon, Nutra Gold Holistic, we are trying to get our hands on a salmon Taste of the Wild, but is kind of hard to get here... but will not change it now, as she is not ok... He only try something new when Becky's health is 100%

alienor

by alienor on 22 November 2015 - 14:11

Can you get diatomaceous earth where you live? It is very good for treating the ground, inside and out. It is essentially a very fine powder that is made up of diatoms; tiny creatures that once lived at the bottom of the sea. Their shells are silica. It works on flea larvae (meaning the soft bodied stage of the flea) by cutting through the soft tissue of their skin and killing them. It does not work on the hard body of an adult flea, and you should not put it directly on the dog, but it is GREAT to sprinkle around on the ground (works best in dry spots or should be reapplied after a rain). Take a broom and brush it into cracks in patios or porches where the fleas live and breed. ( I've used it in my house a couple times when things got out of control in southern Florida. Brush it around and vacuum up the excess, then put entire vacuum cleaner outdoors or remove bag as stated elsewhere)

Great stuff. Usually sold in garden stores. It is very fine powder so don't inhale it or do it on a windy day; otherwise it is harmless to mammals. If you can break the flea life cycle by using this and some of the other strategies you can get on top of the insect problem without the chemicals.



by stoelzle on 23 November 2015 - 17:11

So, here are my suggestions: I feed Taste of the Wild. I bet the company would respond to your problem by accomadating you with shipments. Even if you don't like the reports on what you are using, if she does not react adversely to it, keep using it!

Again, with all that she has been exposed to, her digestive track just might be a mess by now. That is where it all begins. Get the Primal Defense. I bet you can get either the manufacturer or Vitamin Cottage to mail you some. At least be giving a high quality pro-biotic with over 50,000 live healthy bacteria.

Diatamacous Earth is also great. You need the kind for human consumption. Never heard it for fleas because the insects need to eat it but is very good when added to both you and your dogs food and kills all the bad stuff. Great supplement.

Last but not least, food grade organic sulfer crystals. MSN but quality. try happy body store.com

You have gone after the sickness, now go and restore her health-first and foremost-lots of love!

AnaSilva

by AnaSilva on 24 November 2015 - 17:11

Thanks you guys so much for all the advice, even wrote it all on papper just to make sure I don't forget anything, I'm just waiting for my wage to return to the vet (still have the last bill to pay, don't have the guts to go there again befor I can pay the billsRed Smile), she is still not beter... And know is again afeting her ear, it was one of the first signal she had when she was a puppie, and we still have some medicine at home so we have it cover, but she was so good from her ear and know it's back... gave her a bath with malaceb and did not see much diferente, she is much more sleepy, but it can be just from all the medicine... she is taking "atarax" (Hidroxizina) for the allergies, and is now also on "conofite" (Miconazol, Prednisolona and Polimixina B) once a day and alf a pill of clavubactin also because of her ear infections...

To continue the unlucky times my camera has broken so can't take any new photos but as she had already this problem I have old photos of it...

An imageear infection: (the blue was of this cicatrizing spray we used)

An imageskin "reaction", in her belly there are also red spots and also some darker spots... the rest of the body gets like this... (this is the inside of her back leg)


jdiaz1791

by jdiaz1791 on 25 November 2015 - 04:11

Please, do blood work to see what food allergies, if any, then adjust the food; best thing is you switch to raw, and I would do fish as protein instead of meat.

AnaSilva

by AnaSilva on 02 December 2015 - 10:12

I've not forgotten the post or the help you all gave me, just have been sooo busy that didn't had the time until now (again secretly on PDB in work) to successfully post all the "developments"...

Well,
The vet does not think it is thyroid, because she is not bloated or "numb", she has been sleeping more but he thinks it is a side effect of the Atarax pills...
He believes it is a really serious case of contact allergies, especially flea and pollen, we are doing Cortavance Spray (Aceponato de hidrocortisona) twice a day, and next Saturday we will return there to take some blood and fecal samples to send to test. The blood is to make sure everything is ok and the fecal is because of something that I found I my research that Becky have symptoms but we didn't even mention it because it was "normal" in Becky: Exocrine Pancreatic Insufficiency (EPI)
A friend told me to search some more about it and was really surprised to see that it checks on almost every thing...
There is some stuff that don't match, like the yellowish color poo, but there are many that does:
1 - since she was a puppy she practically never had a solid "normal" poo, it was always pasty, not liquid mas never solid,
2 - she is the ONLY dog I ever had that I cannot leave any food in reach that she eats and eats and eats (once I forgot to check if the cabinet where I keep the kibble was well closed, and during the night she managed to open it, she ate almost half the bag! it was a 14Kg bag...),
3 - we can't get her to gain weight,
4 - every time we gave her something else than the kibble she had trouble digesting it, one time my Isa was getting skinny (in the summer she never wants to eat much) and we made rice and raw to mix with the kibble, used some veggies and gave to Becky, she loved then but had trouble digesting it, and the last time Becky was worse we tried some raw recipes (mainly salmon, white fish, rice and veggies), and again Becky couldn't digest it properly, always had lots of bits and pieces on her poo,
5 - and also, every now and then Becky returns to the puppy habits of eating her own poo

Talked to the vet about all of these and he still believes that this is all symptoms of her food allergies, but we he says it can be, so we will check it out...
Anyone have any inside on this problem?

* jdiaz1791 can't do raw with Becky, she does not digest it properly... =( thanks for caring and wanting to help, we are trying to gather enough money to do the allergies test, it will be about 200 to 300 euros, that is really a lot for us =(

** still haven't had the time to take pictures, and Flávio is a better dog trainer than photographer eheheh





 


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