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by CelticSpirit on 22 February 2017 - 12:02

Hi Koots,

Having studied law a bit, it seems contract law does cover issues like this, initially the emails would have been considered an invitation to treat but once I accepted the offer based on the prerequisites it becomes a legally valid contract.

It can not be considered opinion if I accepted the offer based on a certain premise.

I'm not sure if I'll go down the legal route, a lot will depend on how the breeder responds.


Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 22 February 2017 - 19:02

I really think you should rehome her. You are unhappy with her and that is likely not going to change.

Honestly, the email from the breeder sounds like a total con job. What kind of research did you do on the breeder beforehand?

Also, like I said earlier, people don't always agree on dogs and maybe she was "ok" to them. We don't know what their standards are, but obviously they're not the same as yours and I am with vk4 on this...what are you going to do with her? I would really rehome her if I were you. It's imo, the best thing for her. There are many homes who don't mind a shy dog.

Kaffirdog

by Kaffirdog on 22 February 2017 - 19:02

Legal action tends to be expensive and not sure what you will get from it even if you win a case, I've sued more than one person through the small claims court in UK and they simply did not pay up and trying to make them was just throwing more good money after bad. It would be hard on a dog like this to send her back and would cost you another shipping fee, even more expensive as she is bigger now. You could always name and shame which could give the breeder a chance to explain. Your best bet to be honest is to either place her in a pet home or just make a pet of her and cut your losses.

MNJ

by CelticSpirit on 22 February 2017 - 20:02

I spent a few weeks researching the breeder. I found a few posts started by them on this forum and they appeared to be knowledgeable and to have a genuine interest in the breed and the preservation of the working traits.
They also have a website which looks okay and the pedigree of the dog is available on this site which appeared to be good.

I won't name and shame the breeder yet, I sent them a strongly worded email yesterday but have not received a reply from them yet. If I don't receive a reply by tomorrow I will then consider naming them if for no other reason than to ensure nobody else who researches them finds themselves in my position.

The dog will be kept as a pet, she's not fit for anything else and the expense and hassle of returning her would most likely not be worth it at this stage.....I guess I'll just have to wait and hope the breeder offers a solution.


Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 23 February 2017 - 00:02

Can you post pics of the puppy? I mean, with GSDs, when they're coated, they go through many phases. Are you positive the dog's coat will not be acceptable to you?

Please consider rehoming this puppy if they don't offer a solution you like. Your attitude toward her (while totally understandable!) is not going to be conducive to her living up to her potential, whatever that may be. None of this mess is her fault. They absolutely know when you're disappointed in them. Let her be somewhere where they think she's a great dog- that person is out there.

 

A potential buyer asked me "Are you high?!" when they saw I had a lifetime buyback guarantee on my dogs. THIS is why I do it. I don't ever want someone keeping them because it's not worth "the hassle" to return them. 

And Celtic Spirit, I am not blaming you for being disappointed- only saying it's a problem between buyer and seller, and not this innocent puppy's fault. 


by CelticSpirit on 23 February 2017 - 01:02

Hi Jenni,

There is no way I'll give her away having spent €2000 on her and all the hassle it took to get her, taking a ferry from Ireland to the UK and driving 300km to collect her as well as the transport from Spain to the UK, on top of that she is a good pet and there is a bond developing, she's just not the show dog we were promised.

I'm disappointed in the breeder, not the dog.

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 23 February 2017 - 01:02

I didn't say give her away. I just said find a home for her where they think she's a great dog. That's really not a huge amount of money for a purebred, well-bred dog, even if the dog isn't quite up to snuff- for someone looking for a pet from those type lines, she might be worth it. I'm just saying that money and hassle are no reason to keep a dog you don't like- you're not doing yourselves or the puppy any favors :)

by CelticSpirit on 23 February 2017 - 10:02

I appreciate your opinion Jenni, but for me €2000 is a significant amount of money to spend on a pup and the following investment made in Vet fees and training already, as well as the significant hassle it took to actually take delivery.

She is a good pet, but if I was just looking for a pet I could have bought another BBS for €750 from the same breeder. We were sold this pup as something special, a future champion with an excellent temperament and pedigree, the breeders words were 'no fear at all' 'confident, friendly and happy dog' 'future champion' 'unique blood lines in Europe' 'Perfect' most of which appears to be untrue.

It's less about the money and more about the fact I was misled as to the suitability of the dog for competition or IPO.
I don't even know if the lines are good for the breed. I am no expert hence the reason I put so much trust in the breeder.

As I said, I'm disappointed with the breeder not the dog. The dog will continue to be treated well but I would not have purchased her had I known she was overly nervous/shy which is a disqualifying character according to the breed standard. Not to mention the noticeably broken tail.


by vk4gsd on 23 February 2017 - 10:02

There are a lot of basket case, nervous wreck dogs doing well in the show ring.

You will be able to show this dog, her type is all that matters to the show judge and lack of aggression.

No shit, don't let timidity stop you showing, nobody really cares if you can fake the dog thru her nerves with saturation exposure.

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 23 February 2017 - 11:02

Hmm, Spanish connection ? PDB has a (known in UK dog circles) member who breeds BBS, out of Wales and Spain. Perhaps she would like to pass an opinion, or comment on anything she might know about this sale ?

Somebody pass me a wooden spoon, LOL.





 


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