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Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 26 May 2016 - 14:05

KIDDING, Mith !

 

We KNOW you've got a townhouse.  But it's still

NYC.

And THIS puppy probably wouldn't be improved by

being with someone who lets it sleep on their bed.Wink Smile


bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 26 May 2016 - 18:05

Gigante .. please educate me and others as to the genes involved and inheritance pattern of nervous aggression in the GSD. I know of no gene or genes associated with what you call a trait that is nervous aggression or aggression. Aggression and other traits ( such as in serial killers and murderers ) can have a biological basis but the inheritance of this biology is poorly understood or it is not inherited at all.  The link below suggests that environment is the determining factor for dogs within a specific breed. 

http://www.siriusdog.com/behavior-temperament-aggression-dog.htm

Male GSD are in general and are most likely to display dominance aggression due to male hormones while females usually become less aggressive due to female hormones i.e. neutered males often display less aggression while neutered females may show more aggression than intact females.  This is likely the most clealy understood genetic factor as relates to aggression in mammals including human .. those with a Y chromosone are more violent and likely to commit murder ( in the human species ).  Science knows that there are biological differences between individuals ( within a breed of dogs or between breeds ) but there is presently no genetic link that can be identified other than the difference between being XX or XY in mammals.  In the insect world there are many examples of species in which the female is larger and more aggressive.


 


Gigante

by Gigante on 26 May 2016 - 19:05

Not sure what Charles Manson has to do with nervious aggression in animals.

From your article. "Accordingly if one has developed a breed for certain specific behaviors, one should expect that there will be variation around that behavior and that some of this variation will result in inappropriate, out-of-context behavior. This means that if one has selected a breed for protectiveness or guarding, some of the individuals in that breed may inappropriately protect or guard ..."

Jeepers how did that happen. Is she stating that traits are passed? That nervous aggression could follow from proper aggression.


bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 26 May 2016 - 20:05

There is no data or research showing any genes or genes responsible for aggression and therefore any theory of genetic inheritance is based on wishful thinking. More likely is the "supposition" that environment and numerous genes which influence biochemical changes in the individual all influence personality and aggression. Apparently you did not read to the bottom of the page.

The author wrote in summation .... " A long way around the subject to try to see that it would be extremely difficult to determine the exact genetics for this behavior since development of the behavior depends not only on the genes but also the owner of situation. If the dog was genetically predisposed but owned by a good trainer and discouraged at an early age from barking at the door, it may not exhibit the trait - on the other hand, a dog who may genetically be less predisposed but encouraged to exhibit the behavior becomes a problem.  "


 


Gigante

by Gigante on 26 May 2016 - 20:05

Seems to me you have argued the opposite of this before, Not about genes but traits passing that where environmentally, regionally specific. I believe in one of your article postings a while back. I might be wrong or be off a bit, I'll look when I have the time.

Something that has occurred in the past, appearing to appear, currently, but trained out early is not evidence it didn't wiggle in. Exacerbating and is that "this" are different arguments. If I may just remind you, it was a question posed bro. Im not offering a my diagnosis, there is nothing factual to work with here.


Mithuna

by Mithuna on 27 May 2016 - 01:05

Hund does this look like a unhappy dog " locked away " in an NYC apartment? This is her at 05/26/2016. Look at her face . her  coat, her eyes, and think again about  your  IMHO. She turns from beauty to beast in an instant. So nayone who want to rehome a doog that can live in house, you can pm me.

An image


FatalBeauty1

by FatalBeauty1 on 27 May 2016 - 02:05

The owners texted me earlier & said they are meeting with the trainer next Wednesday. Im curious as to what the trainer will do/say about the pup. I will keep you guys posted on the outcome. Thanks

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 27 May 2016 - 08:05

Mith I didn't say I thought SHE was 'unhappy';
all I see is your pet, - laying down, again.
Have nothing but your words for her behaviour
at other times, (and you already know what I think
about that, anyway).
Photo proves nowt, other than she has a pretty
face. And you know what you were advised by
many when you raised the subject of getting a
second dog on a prior thred ...

by LEOPOLD on 27 May 2016 - 12:05

A GOOD BOND WITH YOUR DOG AND MUTUAL UNDERSTSNDING OF ITS NEEDS AFFECTION AFTER PHYSICAL STIMULATION .MY YOUNG MALE IS IN NO MOOD FOR CUDDLES WHEN PLAY ON HIS MIND .HIS PREY DRIVE HIGH AND UNFOCUSED ON ME IF I DON'T KEEP HIM MENTALLY öSTIMULATED .I DON'T NO A DOG WHO DOESN'T LIKE HIDE AND SEEK.YES ENVIROMENT IS A BIG FACTOR ABUSE AND HARSH TRAINGING TACTICS BACK FIRE BIG TIME.SOME ONE YEAR'S AGO SLAPPED MY PUPPY IN THE FACE WHEN SHE WAS on MY LAP BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T LIKE THERE UGLY GOBB.WELL THIS PERSON ID ONLY MET ONCE BEFORE AND HE WAS A WEALTHY MAN WHO THOUGHT HE COULD THROW HIS WEIGHT AROUND ON INTRODUCTION TO MY NEW PUP .HOW DID SHE REACT! WELL SHE FLEW FOR HIS FACE AND REACTED ANGRILY SHE REACTED TO WHAT I WAS THINKING AND THAT WAS HOW DARE YOU SLAP MY PUPPY AROUND THE FACE .THAT ONE NEGITIVE ACTION MADE HER EXTRA GRUMPY OF STRANGERS THE REST OF HER LIFE EVEN WHEN SHE WAS SPAYED SHE NEVER LOST HER EDGE OF HOSTILITY TO MEN IN PARTICULAR .
YES GENES ARE OF FACTOR BUT POOR HANDLING AND NON DOG SAVVY PEOPLE SHOULD BE VERY CAREFUL OF OWNING STRONG CHARACTER BREEDS AS WILL DO THE ANIMAL NO JUSTICE IF THE ENERGY OF SYNCHRONICITY DOESN'T FLOW. BETWEEN DOG AND HANDLER.

Ps my keypad got stuck on caps lol sorry .


by Gustav on 27 May 2016 - 13:05

Blaming everything on bitework training is the usual weasel thought,UNTIL it is discovered to not be the CASE. Smh....it would be funny, if obsessions weren't a disease.
Now the ownership( humans) are crazy......smh, of course you don't know them personally either....smh......this is the place to come for sound diagnosis!





 


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