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by gsdstudent on 27 June 2016 - 13:06

answer;[ if dog owner is sane ]. Did you ask your trainer this question? Did they answer you? Do you watch how other dogs are handled by this trainer? Does this give you a clue on how your dog will be brought along? TO THE TRAINER; EXSPELL THIS PERSON FROM YOUR GROUP. TEAM NEEDS OBEDIENCE AND INSIGHT INTO PROBLEM DOGS. OR WILL VET TRY PROZAK ON THE TEAM?

by Bavarian Wagon on 27 June 2016 - 13:06

Meh...the poster is being judged more than the dog at this point.

One of the "concerned posters" on this very thread was a few months ago telling a story about a "well bred" dog out of one of her hero breeder's litters who would light up at a helper that's just walking by and not doing anything. Just acting like a normal human. This was praised! The dog was amazing! IT WAS BRED TO DO THAT! It is truly civil! Blah Blah Blah. Yet this dog is probably not far away from that one and people are saying it shouldn't do a lick of bite work because they don't like the poster.

Until you see the dog and meet the dog, you can't make any statement about whether or not its "safe" to work in protection.

Doesn't sound like the dog has a live bite yet. Does it sound like it has a greater propensity to have one than one of our dogs? Sure. I'm also sure there are plenty of posters here who have a dog with shorter triggers than this one and still do bite work.

by beetree on 27 June 2016 - 13:06


Sure there are some dogs who share the bed fine. And then there are other dogs with certain owners who unwittingly contribute to creating undesirable issues.

Mithuna has a pattern. Ask a leading question with a serious concern. Find a reason to disregard all advice. State his trainers credentials and his preferences as what works for him.

He really just wants validation and not advice.



GSDAdmin certainly has a point if something in the management goes wrong.

"New York is a "mixed" state, meaning that it has a dog bite statute that mixes the one-bite rule with a limited degree of strict liability. The statute makes the owner or keeper of a previously adjudicated "dangerous dog" strictly liable only for medical and veterinary costs. For other damages, New York requires a victim to prove that the dog had the dangerous tendency to bite people, and that the dog owner knew it. "   https://dogbitelaw.com/mixed-dog-bite-statute-states/new-york-dog-bite-law


Mithuna

by Mithuna on 27 June 2016 - 14:06

Bee : Find a reason to disregard all advice" How do you know this? I think you misunderstand. I said I wanted some third party opinions to compare with what the trainer is saying , because he is new to me. I appreciate some of the things  posted by GSD fan and some others. But I am the one on the ground and have to decide what to impliment as I work with my trainer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


by beetree on 27 June 2016 - 14:06

I know this by reading all your posts. It is all here in black and white.

What advice have you taken so far? How about you list some of the nuggets of wisdom gleaned from here, that you have used and you deemed helpful?

Name three, and I will gladly apologize for wrongly assuming things about your motives. 

***We cross posted, and yes, I think I am on the mark with validation being your motive.


Mithuna

by Mithuna on 27 June 2016 - 14:06

The dog is in the hands of a trainer and he is guiding how to proceed.

yogidog

by yogidog on 27 June 2016 - 14:06

Mithuna example your words .
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I meant persons like you , Joan, jenni, and a few others whom I think are older ladies held the sway for a while with party card holding type strategy. Now its nice to see some experienced men weighing in
Weather men or women we all have knowledge I have learned more from the likes of Joan Jenni susie and more to mention and there all women . Your comments were to get a rise out of these people .


by beetree on 27 June 2016 - 14:06

Right, yogi! Thanks for the memory jog. He has toned it down a bit since then, but that post was all about getting a rise from the board, and being insulting to women of a certain age. He also was singing the praises of the Alpine manly men, at that time, too!

Mithuna

by Mithuna on 27 June 2016 - 14:06

Yogi:"Your comments were to get a rise out of these people "
I like how you magically determined the " cause " of my comments and then parade it as fact. I am expecting the " with hunters " to take this and run with it.

yogidog

by yogidog on 27 June 2016 - 14:06

Mithuna I hope not because that's what u want .And that's what u do add shit and take away from good threads . There is another member who does very similar But u are no where near as smart as him in your questions or your answers :-) this is my last response to u on this matter





 


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