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by joanro on 21 April 2018 - 01:04

Jesse, good points made. Especially your last sentence was 100% on the money.

I'm from Fla. and never had a problem where I ever lived to let my dogs run loose, usually while I was training horses, they were with me running along.

That was many years ago, and it's a concrete jungle now, too many people. Period.

Jessejones

by Jessejones on 21 April 2018 - 02:04

Joanro-
Know what you mean. I remember the old Florida, before concrete too. My dads family were old many generation Floridians.

by joanro on 21 April 2018 - 02:04

Great memories, Jessee.
One time after getting back to my abode after running barefoot with my dogs through the beautiful Fla wilderness, when my dogs and I were a few hundred feet from where my pickup truck was parked, to my disbelief, sitting on top of the hood was big gorgeous bobcat!

He spotted us the same time my dogs saw him. The dogs started after the wild cat soon as he jumped down from the truck and bounded of into the wilderness...I called them off, they were obedient as always, put the he brakes on, and came back to me immediately.

Obedience from my dogs was imperative in the wilds of Fla back then because of wild hogs, alligators and even black bear and cougers.
I didn't have gsd back in those days, but I had my Australian shepherd x husky that was my performing dog and also used him working cattle along with my other two dogs that were straight Australian shepherds.

Those were some of the best times of my life...That Florida is gone forever.


Jessejones

by Jessejones on 21 April 2018 - 02:04

Great story Joanro!
I remember it well, it was magical.
Going down those endless white sandy roads.
My grandad was an ol country boy and had lots of hounds that lived under the house, in the cool dirt and shade, their choice...they had house access at all times. He loved his dogs.
No one had a leash... at most, a piece of rope if you needed one.
You were considered a sissy back in the day if you put a leash on your dog. 😉
My elderly mom still lives not far from there, and it is not one iota the same. It’s all gone now.
Everything is one gated community aftern another. All the old groves are gone and replaced with golf courses.
My moms community even only allows a dog under 25 pounds! What a change.
Having the chance to go off leash, for me, is the only way to get that special connection when you know 100% that your dog will obey no matter what, like with your dogs and the bob cat. That is the foundation of that awesome bond between man/woman and dog. And we are losing it in a lot of places.


by joanro on 21 April 2018 - 14:04

This is real freedom...still available here 21 years after this picture of my huskyxwolf sled dog team...

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Here is a beautifully done vid...puts me behind my dogs...very nostalgic.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=3s&v=lxsFcD431Lk


HerBazhen

by HerBazhen on 21 April 2018 - 15:04

Joanro ~ How freaking cool is that !!!

I always wanted to try that ! Unfortunately, the only dog I ever trained to pull anything was Waldo Pepper, my black lab when I was 9. I used to pick up left over cobs of corn in the fields for my horses. I braided a "harness" out of baling twine, and used it so Wally could pull my little red wagon as we went. That has absolutely nothing to do with the skill you had, in training and running, those dogs in your video....but It has a great deal to do with nostalgia ! Thanks for sharing that :-)

As to other parts of this thread..... I live out in the middle of no where. Granted there is much privately owned wooded land around me...there is still a way to access it. I have found when you are respectful and helpful to your neighbors, they tend to give you permission to walk their land. There are many trespassers in my area. Many of the land owners do not live here. They like it that there is someone here keeping an eye out for them. I ride my horses through a few hundred acres, paying attention to signs of interlopers. Finding owners, and asking permission goes a long way sometimes :-)

Sheri

by JonRob on 21 April 2018 - 15:04

Those of you who weren't there will just have to excuse or ignore us old farts. Yeah there really was a time when kids were tossed out all day like cats, given a watch and expected to show up for lunch and dinner, and learned fast that if you did something stupid or wrong because you thought no one was looking, well, mean Missus Beasley WAS looking and you got your ass kicked when you got home. So you learned that the price of all that incredible freedom was behaving responsibly. I know because I was there. I'm sure it's not safe to do this with kids today---not that you could tear them away from their videos and get them to experience the real world. But what a loss!

Now a question for Joanro on the original topic:

Suppose you are out in public with one of the GSDs that let their boy take the ball away from them in the video. Ball rolls by, dog grabs it, little boy that the dog has never met before races up, smacks into the dog, and snatches the ball out of his mouth. What does the dog do?


by joanro on 21 April 2018 - 17:04

First of all, jonrob, the owners of the dogs in the original vid are not going to be playing ball in public where the ball could end up in the road, creating road pizza of anybody chasing the ball. These people have better sense and are more responsible than that.

Those dogs are there as family members, very protective of their children, no kidnapping slimeball will have a chance to touch one of those kids.

These dogs are not the property of the community, just like their children are not the property of the community. So your theoretical is moot.

 

Now, herbazen, the video is well put together from Russia, lol. It put me behind my dogs as in that is the view I had running them.

I made my living with my dogs ( husky x wolf) traveling all over the country and into Canada, performing with them. That pic above was during down time, recreational run on the way to thousand acres of logging roads...

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Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 21 April 2018 - 17:04

JonRob, re. your question, well, a dog with a REALLY REALLY stable temperament would realize it's just a kid, and kids get a pass on doing stuff like this, regardless of whether the dog knows them or not. But the parent of the child would have to be an idiot to allow that to happen, as many dogs don't have really stable temperaments.

I remember a passage from the book on dog training by the monks of New Skete. The prospective puppy owner had just asked the monk showing him the dogs what the purpose of a good breeding program was. Just then, his toddler yanked the tail of the big male GSD. The dog whipped around, then, upon seeing the little tot, he licked his face.

The monk pointed to the dog and the child, and said, "THAT's the purpose of a good breeding program!"

 

Edit: Joan, love the pictures and video! Thank you for sharing! Can you post a picture of your bull? 


by joanro on 21 April 2018 - 17:04

This video, link above of three dog team in the snow, is not me, but from a Russian musher in Russia..

https://youtu.be/lxsFcD431Lk






 


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