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by christodoulos on 12 September 2016 - 15:09

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Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 12 September 2016 - 17:09

They are not the clearest, but I don't see anything alarming best I can tell. Since they're not labeled, what was the reason for the x-rays?

bubbabooboo

by bubbabooboo on 12 September 2016 - 23:09

The left doesn't seem normal but not because of ED ... maybe a longitudinal cracking in the elbow ... if the dog is not limping or showing discomfort then what I am seeing is just an x-ray shadow. Vertical cracking in a joint is often stress related when a dog injures a joint due to a high jump down, fall or car accident. It is expressed as joint discomfort that does not go away and is hard to see on xrays.

by christodoulos on 14 September 2016 - 09:09

this is for SV for ED results...so they will judge only what they see in x rays....thank you sooo much for your reply

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 14 September 2016 - 13:09

Doesn't SV require labels on the films? A lot of people black them out for privacy when posting on a forum, but I don't see any ID plate anywhere on these. Doesn't matter- I was just curious when I saw the unusual "old style" x-ray. :)

Good luck but I don't see anything that would make them fail SV evaluation.

by christodoulos on 02 December 2016 - 14:12

These x rays have no ID because the ID etc has been written after we took a photo.
And now the bad news .
We took the results from SV,
HD -a1 normal
ED -a5 schwere Dysplasie

I can not believe it.
The x-rays for elbow ,i know,weren't in the best quality.They had scratches ,they delayed to be send to SV due to a problem with the pedigree and the post office ,but i can not believe it.
The vet where i made the xrays told me that everything is good.And now i took a5.
I look forward to make digital xrays for FCI or in a University Vet Clinic for repeating SV rating.

Do you think that this is a a5 elbow situation?

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 02 December 2016 - 14:12

You just can't see well enough to really say. I see a few "maybes" in terms of a non-passing rating, trying to blow these up best I can and really searching, but not schewere. JMO.

Is there a way to enlarge these and repost?

I know there was recently an issue with the SV on ratings- several people had resubmitted for better ratings. I am sorry, I don't remember the exact details. I don't see anything on these that would cause lameness, but again, they are really small to tell. Maybe redo them? Maybe redo and re-submit since you mention all the problems getting them sent in in the first place?

by christodoulos on 02 December 2016 - 14:12

Sv informed me about what i have to do if i want a re-evaluation.I have to go to a University Vet Clinic,not to a simple Vet.And it will cost about 102,50 euros.
It is a formal way to repeat the evaluation,with new xrays.I am not a vet.But the reason i will make it is because this is totally unfair.Schwere dysplasie???these xrays?

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 02 December 2016 - 16:12

102 euros is nothing. We pay up to $500 here...LOL. It costs a fortune to certify dogs' joints in some areas.

I would pursue it if I were you, or at least ask a veterinary radiologist to look at these x-rays (assuming you have the actual films so you can see them larger?) and get their opinion. Then you will know if you should bother redoing them. I agree with you- too hard for me to tell if they are passing or not, but I don't see anything showing what I could possibly classify as severe dysplasia.

by fring on 02 December 2016 - 23:12

for elbow there is three categories they evaluate IPA, FCP, and OCD. you can see much change @ PCm in both elbow, remodel of bone, and left elbow show strong FCP. very sorry.

read SV letter much careful as it is much likely that it states somewhere that most improvement that can be given after university evaluation is one level.





 


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