RSV2000 Comes To Florida - Page 1

Today it's official!!!
On Dec 13 2014 the RSV2000 was born in Florida, through the Black Water Hundensport. The movement of the RSV2000 is spreading throughout the United States. This group, now marks the 4th RSV affiliated club in the USA.
The eager group of 15 handlers made their way to LCC Candidate's Mike Rivers field ,near Gainesville Florida. In attendance, we had mostly German Shepherds, but other breeds were welcomed, hence there was a BOUVIER.
We started the morning with a small lecture from Mike, explaining the basic Philosophy of the breeding program of the RSV, the Global Schutzhund rules, Plan A, B, and C's training applications and of course, the colors ; Grey, Blue, Green and Orange, although through out the day, Mike heard of Red and Yellow!. All handlers adapted well and towards the days conclusion, were comprehending this new system.
We also had Black Water's LAZ John Sobek sleeve up, along with WUSV Competitor Vit Sing, so Mike could help the handlers work their dogs, and to give Mike a little rest, after working over 18 sessions of protection as a helper. John, Mike Rivers, and Angelo Berios was the motor behind forming this group in Tampa Florida.Everyone in the group came away motivated and could not wait until the next meet up. Many of the people attended will be attending the 2015 Dr. Raiser Seminar in Florida and are eager to learn. We hope that this will inspire more clubs to begin in the USA.             

     http://www.blackwaterhs.com/        http://www.rsv2000.de/en

Congratulations and best wishes for success down the road. Lets hope the RSV 2000  movement spreads through both of the Americas. It's great to have and alternative to the SV. Would be nice to have Dr Raiser come to the Vermont area one of these days.

So you are able to be both an SV club through USCA and an RSV2000 club?

Yes. The Vice President of USCA is a RSV2000 member. RSV2000 is not a competing US German Shepherd club.

River:

Strange, I thought the RSV2000 was a German Shepherd Dog Breed Club?????? Admittedly, I have paid little attention to Dr. Raiser's offshoot organization but I would be interested to see if the good Doctor himself would agree with your statement refering to his creation as not being a German Shepherd Dog Breed Organization.  My understanding, albeit limited,  is that Raiser's group issues pedigrees and have breed wardens and to me that has the profound ring of a breed organization.  Hopefully, someone can help me understand the group a little better.

RSV2000 is a German Shepherd Breed Club it is NOT a competing US German Shepherd club.  GSDCA/WDA and UScA are both SV clubs. RSV2000 is an alternative to the SV.  I'd like to see UScA switch from SV to RSV2000 afiiation

Thomas Barriano

This might produce problems.
RSV2000 is a breed club, member of VDH and FCI ( they use the same standard as SV, and they use the same IPO as SV/FCI ), but they print their own pedigrees, and through RSV GLOBAL they start to use a new interpretation of IPO.
Right now RSV pedigrees are not acknowledged by SV, and RSV GLOBAL trials are not acknowledged by FCI, that said these trials don´t count for SV / WUSV / VDH. You can´t achieve IPO1 within RSV and go on to IPO2 within SV.
To avoid any complications I´d trial under FCI rules, not RSV GLOBAL rules right now. RSV doesn´t care, you have the choice, they do acknowledge both.

http://www.rsv2000.de/en/

for everybody who wants to learn about RSV. I don´t know, if this club will have a future. Right now it´s affiliated too much to one person, but maybe I´m wrong .

Check out the real information about the RSV2000. Go to their website; www.rsv2000.de/en. You might be amazed at what you read. They have a breed book but, look at what they accept as a purebred. Look at their claim as to what pedigree integrity a dog must have to be placed in their breed book. 
As I see it, they have their own Koermeisters, Breed Wardens, Trial Judges and Show Judges. If this organization is not seen as a breed club; then there are now cows in Texas and Texas claims and has provided suitable evidence to be seen as a cow state.  Personally, I could care less about Helmut Raiser's most recent attempts at a claim to fame.  If USCA chooses to disregard the RSV2000 folks as a competing Breed Organization then they are afflicted with the most all-encompassing case of realistic myopia the modern world has ever known. USCA and its officers must have their own perception of reality but  so be it; they have the right to call an elephant "a leather backed snozolla" if they so choose.   Personally, I could care less.

As to the authority and propriety  of the RSV2000, someone far more intelligent than I once said: "a small duck can look like a big duck if he stays on a small pond".

Richard; if a duck swims in a pond with a turtle is a duck a reptile?  What sets you off on to a rant about UScA and RSV 2000? stay on subject or start another thread