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Classified: german sheperd puppies male 8 weeks old
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Listed in descending chronological order
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| can PDB trace who posted that pic and ask credentials that it really is Greif? |
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You may be interested in this 1913 dog descended from Greif, through Horand, of course.
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/497921.html
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"Hektor’s and Luch's maternal grandfather was a white-coated German herding dog named Greif von Sparwasser, whelped in Friedrich Sparwasser's Frankfort kennel in 1879. George Horowitz, renowned English Judge, German Shepherd (Alsatian) columnist, author and historian documents the background of Hektor Linksrhein (a.k.a. Horand von Grafrath) in his 1923 book, “The Alsatian Wolf-Dog.” In his book Horowitz documents that the white-coated herding dog named Greif von Sparwasser, born in 1879, was presented at the 1882 and 1887 Hanover Dog Shows."
Nonetheless, the picture in the pdb is a 1906 photo of one of Greif Sparwasser's progeny (a few generations removed) as there is no pic of Greif himself. I suppose this was meant to give us a best guess.
Note that Horand's grandsire Greif was sixteen years his senior! Average breeding age of sire and grandsire was eight (8) years old. If we stuck to an old-sire rule, we'd probably increase the longevity of the breed in a few generations.
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| i would like to find info on greif ... But i do know that my dog A.Rommel is in his blood line. Rommel is almost all black. But there is white in his line it came from somewhere...... |
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Update: Indeed, Greif WAS white.
Hah hah. ;-) |
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Trying to boost the (capitalized?) white German Shepherd fancy?
I don't recall if it was Greif, but DEFINITELY 1 of the major dogs behind the breed (i.e., ancestor of Horand or so forth) Max mentioned as WHITE. Like it or not. And if the caption itself says the dog pictured may in fact be 1 of Greif's offspring - where does that leave you? THERE WERE WHITE DOGS, as there were long-haired dogs (Russ v d Krone) and many varieties. It's the truth.
And how does having "parents unknown" (that's true of ALL the original dogs; you have to start somewhere), or that the dog wasn't registered, mean the dog was not white? |
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This is not a photo of Greif (Sparwasser)
The caption of the photo reads
This is a photograph of a White German Shepherd from a German newspaper from 1906. The name of this newspaper is unknown, also is the name of the dog. Looking at the date, there is a real possibility that the dog may be Russian or Greiffa, one of Greif's daughters.
Why is it put under Greif ?????
I dislike History being played around with !!!
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Greif was NOT a WHITE DOG
In fact he is stated in the SV Studbook as parents UNKNOWN
Who is the dog pictured ?????
He was not registered and Max V Stephanitz wrote in his book this fact
and there was No Photo in his book
Some one is trying to claim this animal to booster the White Shepherd Fancy.
Please stick to facts |
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| Greif was a pure white dog! |
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I would like a picture of this dog!!!! He seems intresting!!!
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Classified: Long coated female puppy from VA2
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