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VA3 BSZS VA1 SP 2008 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by Vladan on 30 January 2009 - 19:01
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Error, Sch I and KORUNG!!! :)

VA3 BSZS VA1 SP 2008 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by Vladan on 30 January 2009 - 19:01
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Congratualetions for ewery sukcess of Orbit!!!
Just want to say, my dog is live and helth for now, work with him Sch I andorung after that hope sou. He hawe great temperament and no fear at all, bite work fenomenall... A hawe many hope for my work with him...

VA3 BSZS VA1 SP 2008 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by marion on 19 November 2008 - 13:11
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First of all I wish to say that I jjust love the dog!

However, whoever said he would be Sieger in Germany in 2008, just was not right. On the other hand, he was presented at the Spanish National Breeding Show on Oct.12, last, and now is Spanish Sieger. But then, we all knew, that he would be just that, seeing as he was the ONLY VA from Germany presented here, and I don't blame the judge, Mr. Scheerer, who also is his breeder, to give him this title, the dog was very well presented and in top condition, and although I am repeating myself, THE ONLY GERMAN VA at this show!!!!

I am not certain at this very moment if he was sold to Spain, or if he is here as a sire for a certain time only. But someone had asked where he was, so you know now ,-).

However, I must say that I lost a friendship here in Spain, because of having recommended a puppy out of a litter from a German breeder. This dog, besides soft ears, had all sorts of intestinal and kidney problems, hardly could eat anything........Just a real mess. I knew the mother dog, who has never before had any problems like that. As a matter of fact, I have a daughter of hers, her father is another German VA, and I don't have those problems, either.

I don't think that I will take a chance with Orbit. I know his breeder personally for many years, and I have absolutely nothing against him, he is really one of the most respected German breeders and judges as far as I am concerned. This is, of course, a subject apart.........

I just think that there is something that brought up everything that has been said, and unfortunately, I had this bad experience here in Spain :-(. However, I cannot swear that everything comes from Orbit, as we always have to take the mother in account, and the grandparents, etc. So I think one has to study this a lit further, seeing as a mother who is great in bitework and has puppies by Orbit who are not good characterwise, it still does not have to be Orbit's fault, what about the generations further back? Or don't they count?

Well, anyway, he is Spanish Sieger and at this moment he is here in Spain........We shall see, right?

VA3 BSZS VA1 SP 2008 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by Arocenzi on 23 October 2008 - 20:10
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Has Orbit been sold to a new spanish owner? I've said this is because he competed in the Spanish Sieger.

VA3 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by Arocenzi on 13 July 2008 - 21:07
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I'm a big fan of this dog! Some people says that he has a bull mastiff head but i think it's one of his unique points that he has a strong head expression! Good Luck to him @ this years Sieger Show

VA3 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by diogo.campos on 25 October 2007 - 19:10
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You can contact the owner here : http://www.vom-grafenbrunn.de/
The owner is Mr Dirk Scheerer .
Thank you

re: VA 3 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by clodoveo on 19 June 2007 - 16:06
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I Hope my dog is dog for Orbit....it seems....but not just a photo to be sure about compatibility. Do you know where is Orbit now?

VA 3 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by clodoveo on 19 June 2007 - 16:06
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wonderful!
Where is this dog for a mount in the month of august?

my dog is 4th years old, 1^ IPO, selection.

VA 3 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by Nomi on 18 May 2007 - 12:05
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please tell me the owner name and contact no of Orbit...thanx

VA 3 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by Arturo RODRIGUEZ on 13 May 2007 - 10:05
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Orbit is a great VA ,but for a execptional litter ,we most have a very very good FEMALE !

VA 3 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by puppyluv on 31 March 2007 - 21:03
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I am anxious to find out who the dam was for the Orbit litter with congenital problems. Wouldn't that shed some light on the Orbit debate? Our Orbit male is beyond our expectations and drop-dead gorgeous.

VA 3 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by Vladan on 05 February 2007 - 00:02
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I am not mad at people who have a problem with pupp's of Orbit, just want to say that my pupp is ok for now. Orbit have many mating as a excellent dog, so as a many other VA dog's, so is not wierd that some of pupp's are not so good, the thing is thet there is so mutch better than bad. There is a lot of other's male's who give a some bad pupp's in progeni, that's normal. Bast wishes for you allso ClassAct.

VA 3 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by autobahn on 04 February 2007 - 21:02
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I saw 2 puppies from a litter by Orbit. One was a weird dog. Did not like anyone he wasn't familiar with, growled, hackles up. And this was a 4 or 5 month old puppy. Was eventually sold where only one person would be caring for it and would have limited interaction with strangers. The other was decent enough but his ears could have been firmer. Not a spectacular litter.

VA 3 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by bomber on 04 February 2007 - 20:02
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I had seven dogs over Orbit vom Hühnegrab and a complete litter about 8 puppies and I can say that all dogs were very good by bitework, but I think it will also be important how the puppies grow up. The motherline is also an important factor for the puppies.
best wishes,
P. Dehmelt

VA 3 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by a.krause on 04 February 2007 - 17:02
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I have 6 dog s after orbit. they get the schutzhund with two i have körung. They have a good charakter and very good biting work

VA 3 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by ClassAct on 04 February 2007 - 13:02
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vldan, good luck to you. But if you read the comments there are at least 4 people with problems from Orbit. Hard to keep blaming the dam. Wish you the best, but you can't get mad at other people that have had bad problems with Orbit dogs, and some that died young.

VA 3 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by Vladan on 03 February 2007 - 16:02
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KNineCop is that be comment for my pupp? If it is so i must say that i know that must be a better pupp than mine and i must say allso, looki'n this argue on temperament of Orbit's offspring, mine pupp is fearless! He has no fear of annithing, no dog's or humans all ready! And must say that he had no problem with helth what so ever for now!Thank you verry mutch!

VA 3 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by KNineCop on 01 February 2007 - 01:02
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Sorry........I forgot to say that the pup was out of Orbit.

VA 3 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by KNineCop on 01 February 2007 - 01:02
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My friend had a much better looking pup than this. I guess you win though, your dog probably came with kidneys. Good for you!!! Glad that you don't have to euthanize your pup.

VA 3 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by KNineCop on 01 February 2007 - 01:02
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My friend had a much better looking pup than this. I guess you win though, your dog probably came with kidneys. Good for you!!! Glad that you don't have to euthanize your pup.

VA 3 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by Vladan on 01 January 2007 - 17:01
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HAPPY NAW YEAR AND BEST VISHES IN 2007! I have verry beautiful grandson of Orbit, son of Ninno Huhnegrab, his name is Tago Aureus Mons, please look him on gsd and submit a comment of him. Vhat is your oppinion? Regards!

VA 3 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by KNineCop on 31 December 2006 - 13:12
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Seems to be alot of bad discussions going around about Orbit. Can the mothers be at fault for all the genetic problems and lack of head space? Maybe if the breeders stood behind their breedings, and replaced the genetically, unsound animals, people wouldn't talk to much.

VA 3 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by José Tinoco on 31 December 2006 - 13:12
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Been a VA Dog, Orbit got a big progeny, some puppies will have his caracteristics, other wont, they have a mother too, remember?. I am not saying the defect cant came from him but watch out or there is a chance of not to be fear with the dog and the breed will losse with that.

VA 3 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by KNineCop on 29 December 2006 - 16:12
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WOW!!! This is all become very clear. I have an Orbit dog that is afraid of his own shadow. Obviously, not a good thing being in Police Work. He never made it on the police force. He looks good though, but that's about it. Now he's just an expensive pet due to all his ailments.

It's really a shame

VA 3 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by ClassAct on 29 December 2006 - 12:12
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I have an Orbit pup that has no drive at all. The breeder blames Orbit, because the Female is a top notch Schutzhund dog. He is a very nice looking dog, but seems to be lacking in head space and drive. I also have read other comments about him and I guess I should be happy that at least he is not dead due to a congenital defect.

re: VA 3 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by carol b on 28 December 2006 - 22:12
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John and Pauline Cullen (UK)


cullen32@btconnect.com

VA 3 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by dee see on 28 December 2006 - 11:12
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hi all,
wish to know the location of this beautiful specimen .. if anybody could give the info would be a great help to me

VA 3 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by JAGGER1214 on 19 December 2006 - 02:12
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I had an Orbit pup (10 months old) and he was a very promising puppy.

Wish he had come without a congenital defect. Kidneys must be extra.

Should have dealt with a reputable importer.




down on pasterns
by harley on 26 November 2006 - 17:11
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harley

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i have an 11 yr old male who has suddenly gone way down on his pasterns.. does anyone have any information on how to correct this??
thanx

VA 3 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by Traveller on 26 November 2006 - 06:11
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Orbit has 4 things stopping him from being a seiger: Zamp
Vegas
Ursus/Yasko sireline
Size

I do like Orbit's proportions, balanced angulations & clean topline but I don't like his size & mastiff type head.

Rod

VA 3 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by José Tinoco on 26 November 2006 - 02:11
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Thats time to see Orbit get in first, we will have a lot years before an other dog can be compared to this one. Look how balanced he is, strong and lean at the same time, with a big massive head and an espetacular croup and upper line, well it is just fantastic! It get to be the SIEGER next time!

VA 3 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by ladein on 19 November 2006 - 06:11
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i like this male very much.orbit is a future german seigar

VA 3 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by Reiner on 06 October 2006 - 11:10
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Spunio,

what happend?

VA 3 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by spunio on 04 October 2006 - 18:10
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at the siegershow he was black/white, now he has good color

VA 3 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by Anu on 04 October 2006 - 13:10
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I'm a Big Fan of Orbit too, but the only thing that is disheartening about him is his progeny! Quantum and Zamp are leading currently! Otherwise, nothing could've kept Orbit Back. Zamp will go for a double sieger!

VA 3 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by José Tinoco on 02 October 2006 - 14:10
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Very impressive dog as I said! Coming from Timo Berrekasten (Mother side), which brings a guarantee in terms of temperament. Besides his pedigree seems very clean from Hip Displasia. That is a "Show line" dog that got the atributes to lead to the healthfull aspects. "IT HAS A BEAUTIFULL CONFORMATION! IT HAS A GREAT PEDIGREE! IT HAS A GREAT TEMPERAMENT! IT HAS GREAT HIPS AND HIS RELATIVES GOT GREAT HIPS TOO! IT MUST BE OUR NEXT VA1 IN GERMANY! EVERYBODY IS TALKING ABOUT HIM!

VA 3 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by José Tinoco on 26 September 2006 - 13:09
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Yes Krug, I saw your dog. Looks great!. I hope to see Orbit Hunnegrab get the VA1 next year. He looks impressive!

VA 3 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by Krug on 25 September 2006 - 23:09
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Please look new photo of my dog Ninno vom Hühnegrab (Orbit son). He is now 19 months old, but he looks great. HD and ED normal.

VA 4 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by chankya on 15 August 2006 - 21:08
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my bet on this dog this year,a super dog with super attitude,super mover,the progeny seems to be decent with number of good males as well as good females,combining with timo from dam side creates oppurtunity to experiment and very sound temperament in breeding,with definite and dark saddle marking.sieger this year,yes he is big..

VA 4 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by amir on 13 August 2006 - 06:08
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Dog must be observed only in live. You can not judge if your grounds are pictures. Specially size. If it is possible let`s exchange pictures.

VA 4 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by Anu on 11 August 2006 - 12:08
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The dog is not too big at all! I have so many pics of him which very few people may have and there you can see that his size is fine!

VA 4 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by Kejnajn on 10 August 2006 - 12:08
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I really like this dog! Seems to have a great bitework aswell..!?

I've read here that someone thinks he is to big? How big is he really?

Would love to use him on one of my females, but the size factor is an issue...

VA 4 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by Vladan on 08 August 2006 - 22:08
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I hope that this great dog will be sieger champion this year! ALL THE BEST FOR HIM AND HIS OWNER! GO ORBIT!

re: re: VA 4 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by sudi on 31 July 2006 - 16:07
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This Yr it will be the Orbit......

re: VA 4 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by cww on 22 April 2006 - 16:04
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Greetings,

To the best of my knowledge and according to the most recent Nachrichten (No. 4), Orbit is mit Frau A. Krause. She has provided postings, in response to Orbit inquiries.

homepage www.grafenbrunn.de
email a.krause@e-w-k.de

This team is a fabulous team, and a pleasure to speak with ... mirrored by the excepitonal quality they produce/promote.

Regards,

VA 4 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by Fanta96 on 21 April 2006 - 00:04
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We do hope to have some super puppies here, but still have to wait and see, the breeding happened just 2 weeks ago today.

VA 4 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by GERA on 20 April 2006 - 22:04
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I own a 4 month puppy and i am very pleased with him, he is well structured and has very good temperament. Confident good drives and is a very expresive puppy.

VA 4 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by Fanta96 on 20 April 2006 - 03:04
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This dog is absolutely super .... we were there for a breeding, what a super temperament, outgoing and confident dog, around little children with adults no problem at all.

The picture does not do this dog any justice. I was totally impressed.

VA 4 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by WIM on 11 April 2006 - 13:04
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Would like to know what the 'hot' news is about Orbit vom Hühnegrab. According SID online he made V1 in Germany (OG Kirch-Pohl-Gons) last sunday, Judge was C. Rudolph.
So what's new?

VA 4 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by Krug on 13 February 2006 - 16:02
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I have superb male from Orbit and Ricarda Hühnegrab. His name is Ninno Hühnegrab and he is 13 months old. I can say that progeny from Orbit have also perfect character.

VA 4 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by José Tinoco on 25 December 2005 - 21:12
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Thats my favorite dog! It came from Ursus x Timo, and is all we could think of a real German Shepherd!
Congratulations to the owners, I hope to see it as "VA 1"!

VA 4 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by G diego on 20 December 2005 - 06:12
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Does any body know how to get in contact with owner of Orbit ? , or have a super quality mail for sale from 3months to 15 months old

VA 4 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by G diego on 19 December 2005 - 07:12
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I think this dog is one of YASKOS best sons ,I hope his owners show him again .

VA 4 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by José Tinoco on 18 September 2005 - 15:09
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Thats a very impressive dog! Ursus x Timo. We can see the quality!.

VA 4 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by Anu on 14 August 2005 - 13:08
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The Belgium sieger 2005! ORbit.

More Power to Timo&Ursus.

VA 4 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by Daniela Janicijevic on 10 July 2005 - 17:07
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much succes with this puppies, the Pakros daughter "Lyra" from Waldorona looks top!

VA 4 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by franci on 03 July 2005 - 00:07
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hello i have pupp's from orbit ,now is all most 5 month , super body ,super head, super movment, both of them taked from mrs. lothar quoll the male vv2 and the female vv1

VA 4 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by tiny on 22 June 2005 - 22:06
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really great dog from every side with great pedigree ursus n timo and good combination of both lines the dog have good things from both lines like black n correctness from timo n substance built masculinity n type from ursus goodluck for this year

VA 4 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by Polina on 21 June 2005 - 16:06
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Can someone help me? I cant find photo of Orbit's Pups. But i want to see these pictures very much. Maybe somebody have URL of them or could sand them to my e-mail (polina@savelovo.net)
Im very interesting of these pic-s.
Thank you.

VA 4 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by MATHAUS on 15 December 2004 - 14:12
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The more I see him the more I need to see him again. He is my definite favourite in the VA this year. He has as his grandfather a dog I always admired and will always do so-Timo Berrekasten!!!
ORBIT YOU ARE JUST AWESOME.
A.MATHEW

VA 4 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by Nicos on 06 November 2004 - 23:11
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Very nice dog for the oversized ring. The normal sized dogs like Ghandi and Kevin were too small for the VA class.
Perhaps they could measure Orbit with both eyes open next time. Sure he is fantastic but so are many oversized dogs that we never see. Bring your little females to him and hope for the best. Fantastic pedigree and very famous owner/Breeder all should do well!!

VA2 (AUT) Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by hirtenhaus on 04 October 2004 - 14:10
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All I can say is WOW!!!!!!!!!

SG 2 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by MATHAUS on 09 September 2004 - 09:09
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Great show by Orbit. This dog has impressed me very much. Congratulations to Orbit, his owners and fans all over the world.

SG 2 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by Heather on 04 September 2004 - 14:09
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He was VA4. What an outstanding place to make at only 25mths old. He looked excellent and moved fabulously. Very well handled throughout. Congratulations to his owners Dirk & Anya.

SG 2 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by GERA on 02 September 2004 - 06:09
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He made VA3 at karlsruhe congratulations to the owner.

i got good eye! ahahahahaa

SG 2 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by Jochen on 27 May 2004 - 14:05
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Totally agreed by myself!! it´s a fantastic young male with a great producer potential!!!

SG 2 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by Heather on 27 May 2004 - 11:05
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Saw this male on Sunday being taken around the ring of a show during the lunch break and afterwards being stood for me and others to look at. He is a larger and much stronger version of Yasko IMO of course but with a head like Ursus. He has extensive black saddling and extensive black on the head and muzzle with black, black eyes. I was very impressed with him overall and with his very dynamic movement around the ring with excellent fore reach. this is a male I will most certainly be using sometime soon. He is not 2 years until July but will no doubt make an excellent place at the Sieger and deservedly so on what I saw of him.

SG 2 Orbit vom Hühnegrab
by GERA on 03 December 2003 - 03:12
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I LIKE THIS DOG I WISH HE HAS MORE HAIR.
SOMEONE KNOWS WHO OWNS HIM ???????





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