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Classified: TOP Female fro 3-3 Ursus v. Batu line
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Falco is a SUPER nice dog!
He has produced some really nice puppies.
TOP pedigree (Very similar to Youth Sieger Godalis Tino)
He resides in Central Florida, owned by Gloria & Steve McElveen.
Gloria & Steve are really nice and easy to work with.
Here's their contact info:
http://www.angelfire.com/de3/jagenstadt/Falco.html
Andrew
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anyone know the breeder?
really like this dog.
bteifke@bigfoot.com |
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Getting a pup from a planned breeding between him and one (actually a choice of 2) of the bitches over at vom Haus Winheim this fall, can't wait for another of Jodies world class breedings...She has some real nice dogs with puppies expected later this summer/fall... Rob |
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please help me..
Who is the owner of this dog ??
Adresse???Name?? Tlf number??
How does he breed???
my email is
schaeferdal@mail.dk
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| Hi all i thought this was done with?? Brandi im also one of these fools who spends money on imports in a hope we can improve what we have! if only in a small way, but when you hear the shit that your male produces and from breeders who have never used him!! it makes you wonder why we do IT!! CAN ONLY BE FOR LOVE |
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Don't worry, Brandi... I read your comment and understood exactly what u meant from the very beginning. I think some others probably just misunderstood u for a sec.
All's forgiven...
Now can we change the topic, plz, everyone? |
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I can not believe all this nasty comments started over my comment about loose hocks. Jeez. As I stood correct later, I meant pasterns. As I stand now, looking more indepth at Falco's pic, I shouldn't of even said anything about his pasterns, as I've seen real bad pasterns. I guess when I commented on it, I had just noticed, maybe, the length of his pasterns.(?) NOT that they are loose, or whatever. For the nice comments on Falco, he seems like a superb male, in which SA will enjoy having. How long is Falco planned to stay there? It was neat reading about his bite work and temperment. Sorry if any of my comments sounded rude, never ment for them to be that way.
Good luck with Falco. He IS TRUELY a handsome boy. |
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Hi, everyone.
As a recent buyer, I merely wish to state that it is rather disappointing reading the articles on Falco. How such a harmless compliment (that’s how I read it) could turn out to cause such a tremendous argument among people who, I must add, are supposedly to have the same interest at heart, the GSD, AMAZES ME!!! I'm absolutely flabbergasted at how we could lose track of Kinneret’s objective and turn our focus to the trivial so quickly. Thank goodness Falco isn’t affected by all this!!!
Anyway, I'd just like to add that from an uneducated outsider/buyer's perspective, anyone who goes to the effort of importing a GSD into our country deserves SOME kind of support and best wishes from everyone - even if we differ radically on the opinion of the dog (which judging from the e-mails, we actually did NOT!). At least it tells me that these people are serious about BREEDING THE BEST!!!
So on behalf of all of us ambitious people who would one day like to see South Africa's GSD's give Germany a run for their money, (and don’t laugh… coz people also laughed about a NEW SOUTH AFRICA not too long ago!) Jenny and Tzilla, I wish u the best of luck and know this: we DO all support you (even if it doesn't quite sound like it on the website), and some of us are inspired by what people like u do, so keep up the good work.
Oh, and by the way, after all the comments about Falco... I just know I made the right decision to buy one of his pups now... but I've just gotta go and double-check those loose SOCKS now... or was it loose stools I'm supposed to look for??? |
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This is an International site. Could we paint a more receptive picture to the rest of the world about South Africa. We are very happy that Alfred Böselager of Vom Moorbeck was kind enough to let Tzilla have this super dog.
Just recently I tried to purchase a female whole stood in the top 30 at the Sieger Show, the breeder indicated that he would prefer me to leave her in Germany. Now I know why.
On a positive note I would like to thank all the breeders in Germany and in South africa for trying to improve the breed globally. Afterall this is our goal.
Besides everyone to their own taste.
I would suggest you all read the ECT Act in South Africa. Alfred Böselager and Tzilla could have a very good case.
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Lestat-Hello me again, You made this comment just for your records on, the 12 Feb 2004
Title Ulk inbreeding, now the the idea was very good, but you contradict yourself...
read below: "I have just mated her now,
to a good male.So I was looking at a litter which will be just under a year away.
She is a four month old (Who??)the one you mated or are going to??I like to take my time to research"
Does this make sense? see how easy it is to take things out of context????things can get very confusing can't they???
*Bitch slap*
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Lestat- post how you like but, do not gheneralise, by the way went and read some of your previous posts, especially about the one where you say you want to do a inbreeding and are waiting for the bitch to come in season and in the same breath talk about it being 4 mnths old get a life!!!
you are scary very scary...
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HI TERRY
NOW I KNOW WHY YOU HAVE'NT SEEN FALCO!!
STAYING IN NATAL-YOU MUST MAKE A PLAN TO SEE OR USE THIS DOG ALSO!!
YOU'LL LIKE HIM AS MUCH AS I DO-!!!
Do u own Basko von praesterland?? |
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Hi All and Apollo, Sorry this is all going out of context, where did we start and why? some idiot had bad things to say about FALCO, give him time to come to terms with SA breeders and SA, iM a stud owner, but i live far away from all of this Shit, so i realy dont have a problem with Falco Good dog good lines, What is going down is what i have experienced with the idiot breeders that will kill any male who comes on there turf with out knowing what he can offer.
Apollo try natal some time we also have the bangers that make it happen. cHEERS
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SOMETHING I FORGET TO SAY!!!
YOU ALL KNOW WHAT IS EXCELLENT ABOUT FALCO-??
i SEND ANOTHER BITCH TO HIM THIS WEEKEND-
AND THE BEST PART OF THIS DOG IS--ZIEM ZAM BAM,THANK YOU MAM!!
HE KNOWS HOW TO MATE I BITCH-- NO BEGGING AND HELPING TO GET THE JOB DONE!!
HE GETS ON AND DO HIS JOB WITHOUT NO ASSISTANCE--LET ME TEL YOU THAT IS A PLEASURE!!! WHEN YOU HAVE A LOT OF BITCHES AND ONE HAS TO HELP A MALE TO GET IT DONE-THAT IS FRUSTRATING!!
THANK GOODNESS FOR FALCO!!!!! |
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Dear Charisma,
Please do not try to tell me whether to reply or not or how to post on this board. I wil post how I see fit. As for who I was addressing. My post was mainly addressing the dogs temprament. If you read the messages you would see that The Mummy was the one who attacked the dogs temperament. So it is you that obviously has a problem understanding the English language. So please keep your stupid little comments to yourself when others post on the board, especially when their posting has nothing to do with you previous posts! |
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Lestat- please keep up Terry and I are defending him, not criticising, can you read and understand the King's english,when replying to a post please address the writers by name otherwise it looks like yoou are referring to all....
Kindly be specific who you are addressing..
the "stud dog comment" to, I don't even own a stud dog get a grip..on reality..
Do not reply you have missed the boat
on this no life ring for you.. |
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Apollo -Brandi is not from SA dude...
Sy het die Kak begin, met haar praatjies!
Secondly Terry is not saying anything bad
He speaks from personal experience on this Topic, don't be quick to pass judgement on him..
Jy kan n' boertjie wees, dit is nie a probleem nie, maar die mense op hierdie netwerk praat die internationale taal en dit is engels my broer!!!
Peace... |
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I would just like to make few comments on Falco. Firstly at this point in time he is the only dog in the country at the moment with a lot of good points to offer our breed here. He possess the qualities to hopefully correct the faults that are most common at the moment, ie Croup length and lay, correct front and excellent length of running bone, pigment and last but not least temperament.
I remember the day after Falco arrived in SA. Tzilla brought him to our club and Richard gave him a bite. Full hard grip with no problems. Strange helper, strange place, and strange handler! For me this does not show a dog with a problem, more like an extremely confident male!
Tzilla has also left the dog in our kennels for a few hours here and there. With or without her present he is a friendly confident dog, even left in a strange environment with strange people. I have not seen this kind of temperament from a show male in this country for a long time. So for those of you that are running the dog down, you are obviously show people with a stud male and are probably petrified of loosing a few studs to a new male. Aagh shame! Grow up!
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Hi T, at least Apollo had something good
to say about the bite work, we need to get him on our TEAM...at least he values a good temperament..
Mummy go back to Egypt...
and embalm your brain..
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Hi Apollo sorry i have not seen the male, so i make no comment!! I will not be like e some of the breeders in SA, THAT SHOOT THE DOG FIRST AND LOOK AFTER.
Charisma yes we know what this bunch of F....ing idiots can do to a male, thats why Basko stays in my backyard, with his red /black, excellent temperment and bite work to kill for!!So the so called Breeders of SA DONT PULL the shit out of him, The ones with no interest in putting there money where there F...ing mouths are!!!!
Let this male have his chance!!!!!!!!!! |
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| I saw this dog when I visited SA for their Nationals and was made very welcome by Tzilla and her dogs. The dog was not in the best coat and condition but everything is there in the right places! I handled him and stood him and we had no in season bitches with us!!! His character was superb to complete strangers and I would expect him to produce well in SA. I wish Tzilla and her team all the very best with this lovely dog. |
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| Mummy is fishing should change the name to dady and buy her a fishing line... |
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| This is Kinneret Kennels once again defending our boy - Anyone is 100% welcome to come and view Falco biting at our club (Magalies) with my trainer Richard. Falco is an aloof dog with a very protective temperament and his father Orbit is well known for his Super temperament. Why don't you come out of your protective name and let us know who you really are - it might explain a lot. We are very tired of people like you who seem to gain pleasure from negative criticism, and who seem to only want to destroy our beautiful breed. Kinneret is well known for its good biting dogs - Fero who is trained by Richard (and Apollo) did superb bitework at the German Sieger show this year - We are very proud of our dogs and do not need to show them off when they 'hit the shores' - the proof is in the pudding and you will see him in action at our National Show next year - He was not in this year as he was not in optimum condition. So come out of your bandages Mummy and put on the arm - and let us see how long it takes for you to actually become a Mummy. |
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Hello Terry
WHY HAVE YOU NOT SEEN THIS DOG??
it SEEMS TO ME THERE ARE A LOT OF TALKERS!!!
lET ME INLITEND YOU ALL!1
AND BEFORE ANYONE CRITISEZE MY ENGLISH-- I AM NOT SO GOOD IN THE ENGLISH ALSO-- Ek is n boerseun--Sal ma engels skryf sodat die hele wereld kan lees!!!
I Have seen this dog, I have worked this dog on the arm(bite work)-Should anybody wonder-(I have done Bitework in our nationals show now for 5 years. So i Think Maybay that i know what i am talking about!
And he bites very good!!
I have also used him on 3 of my own bitches,hoping he will correct my color problem-He is one of the dog in SA with the best color. All the bitches is stil pragnant!! Will have pups soon-Time will tell!
I know of 2 times that the owners had him at clubs- i was there!!! Maybe the mummy was n bit too drunk liks most of the big mouth dog people who has bred vokkol!!
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Go boy go....
Where have you been?
Hiding?
Come on out to play!
Still shopping, hope I did not put you
off..
Love those words buy in haste repent in leisure....
Wise words, I would keep him well tucked away to.. |
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Hi The Mummy, I hope you are NOT YOUR NAME SAKE?? nOT sure if you have a problem with the English but any way, i have not seen this male, but like most breeders in SA the dog is was dead before he was on the ground in SA. Dont think that he is not a shows that he has problems MAYBE THE OWNER IS WISE??.
This can be the best thing to do or you and others will kill him!!!! for no reason.
To bring in a male is not like going to the local SPCA and paying a few bob!!! |
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i have seen this dog a few times in S.A
He is tall with good running legs, A long croup and super pigment.
I personaly would like to see him a bit more musculant- his is yet still fine.This could improve with age-He is stli young!
I am not sure of his temperament?? The owners has him at a dog club and he looked a bit shy to me. I Have not seen him doing his bitework yet by they are not showing it of like every new import hitting our shores- that makes my wonder!!?? |
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Brandi you obviously cannot understand english, so I will type this very slowly,
I said do not reply!!!
Shame another "simple life form"
Your ignorance speaks volumes on it's
own, go back and read your post..
Malcolm Willis wrote a lovely book on the German shepherd, I suggest you get a copy..
please look very closely at the anantomy of the dog and you will have that ahaa moment
when you find the "hocks" at the back...
And get a dictionary while you are at it...
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Kinneret Kennels,
Your boy is very handsome. I'm NOT one of those key board junkies looking at pictures and commenting....
as Charisma said. You'll hardly EVER find me say anything bad about a dog unless it's an American AKC GSD that walks on it's HOCKS. Sorry if what I typed was taken badly about Falco. I think he's very handsome. Good luck to you and him with future endevours. And note, the Sh@$y things Charisma writes to people ALL THE TIME. Talk about a keyboard junkie...though Falco's comment board is not the place to "fight" over something SO rediculous. Comments ENDED here! |
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Hello Everybody - We are the owners of Falco. We would like to thank Charisma for all the support, whoever you are. Falco is correct in front and we will be submitting his Breed Survey from Germany shortly for all to read. He is very typical to his sire Orbit and he has a super strong temperament. Thank you for all the comments on Falco being a lovely, handsome dog - This is true. His first two litters have been born in South Africa and the colour of pups is exceptional - We are very grateful to Alfred and Inge from the Moorbeck Kennels for letting us have this super stud dog -
More comments are very welcome and any queries can be forwarded to Jenny.Yanai@za.nestle.com |
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He is in the data base, he is at stud with Jenny and Tzilla he is a Orbit Tronje son,
I think he is a really great dog, I wish him
well in his future stud career...
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Please reread your comment "loose in the front Hocks"
I ask again have you seen this dog in person??? Have you seen it move????
Please do not reply to this, as I already know the answer, you are another key board junkie
looking at pictures and commenting....
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You need to chill out Charisma. I wasn't saying anything bad about this dog...I think he's very handsome. And yes, I meant to type pasterns and if you opened you damn eyes, you would have seen that I typed "but never know by just the picture." I'm sure it was just the photo. I've seen dogs w/ very bad pasterns, Falcon's is nothing compared to what I've seen.
Again, this is a very fine looking dog. |
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| Charisma you at it again!!! where is the photo????, In South Africa Ho No!! not one of those Imports again, do we realy need all of this, lets find a local that we can pull to bits!!!!!! |
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Just curious why are you commenting about a dogs hocks that you have never seen?
Secondly what has hocks which I understand
are at the back have to do with the front,
unless you are refering to his pasterns?
Please refrain from making these types
of remarks on a dog you have never seen
moving...
This dog currently resides in South Africa
and is standing at stud with Kinneret kennels.
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| This is a very good looking boy. Nice pigmentation, bone and color. Looks alitte loose in the front hock, but never know by just the picture. |
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Classified: Sale!V4 Quinn Zur Worringer Rheinaue (Germ)
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