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Classified: For Pet home- black and red IPO I, KKL1 female
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| This excellent sire after the great Yasko farbenspiel, has produced many suberb females and a number of males. I have always loved his type, bonestructure and pigmentation - and these are trademarks he has given to his progeny. |
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| I have a granddaughter to Erasmus.....She's amazing, tempermant, drive & intelligence. Great bloodline! |
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Erasmus is a very beautifull dog!
He has a daughter very similar to him( Ku Haus Belgia).She lives in Russia.
Mr.Edzard, thank you for this dog! |
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| i just aquired a grandauter of erasmus,i was told that he sold for 55k.i find it hard to beleve that 1 dog can cost that much can any one give me any info as to how true this is,the this female is 14 months old evey thing on her is good ,erasmus ,sure dose pass his good looks on to his pups. |
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| nice male with goog youngsters |
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Erasmus was very well deserving of his title this yr. He got very good head, color everything about him. I think he deserves to go VA1 this year, He is one of the best gsd i have seen on this board. and also the best producer.
Behind him especially the Ursus von Batu progeny and coming through Yasko vom Farsenspiel. He proove himself with his progeny.
Best regards
Sudi |
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| Dear Ahmad
what ever you said you cant prove it because the photo of your female told the whole story to the world u deny from this photo not from sieger show or canti? now you know it there's nobody from abroad who come to your house to see the fact how you deny from
this photo and you handle her in show you people show your actual face at this sieger show and you are the person who had many complaints from foreign judges and imran you discussed it so many time at public level now how you people put embargo on dogs sale you have not any answer for this if i talked about more decisions then va3 female deserve at first place |
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| Dear Friends,
I must apologize to all of you for the behavior of a few people from our country, who seem to be bent on giving the whole lot a bad name. Allow me to assure you the average member of German Shepherd Dog Club of Pakistan ( GSDCP ) is just so keen, and enthusiastic as anyone else, anywhere else, and is steadily working hard towards improving the standard of the breed in our country.
At the same time, there are and shall always be, a few disgruntled ones too, who find it more interesting to spread disinformation. For the benefit of you all, our club was not founded in the 70’s, but in 1981. Our president is not paralyzed for the last 15 years, but hale and hearty, and we did not have 35 dogs in our sieger show, but 48 ( which also happens to be more than last year ). And then to come to the latest accusation, the female in question has not whelped till today ( can be inspected at my house, being partly owned by me!!! ), so could not have been 5 weeks pregnant on the show day ( February 12 ). I do not need to waste any more time or space in negating baseless points, and hope the matter will finally be considered closed by all concerned.
This forum is for people to learn and enjoy their love for the Shepherd with fellow hobbyists. Best for all to maintain the atmosphere of friendliness and respect, and to allow everyone to enjoy their hobby to the best.
Truth somehow happens to be very tough and resilient, and finally manages to survive all attempts on its life!! One may try to hide it with a lot of effort, so it is very well hidden, but resurface it will, or so we all believe.
I apologize once again to you all.
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| I KNOW MOST OF READERS THINK I AM LIAR BUT I CAN PROOF MY WORDS ,PLEASE GO ON CANTI SCHORNFELSEN AND SEE YOURSELF THERE A PHOTO FROM THIS YEAR SIEGER SHOW AND CANTI PLACED AT VA4 A PREGNANT FEMALE CLEARLY SHOWN HER PREGNANCY THERE ARE SO MANY JUDGES WHO COME ON THIS SITE PLEASE GIVE YOUR VIEWS HOW IT CAN POSSIBLE THATS MEAN BIASED JUDGE PROOFED HERSELF.
IF I AM RIGHT ON JUDGING SIDE THEN THERE A CHANCE MAY BE I AM RIGHT ON OTHER ISSUES ALSO LIKE ELECTION SCREWED THE MEMBERS AND BAN ON SALE OF DOGS WITH OUT IMRAN HUSAIN PERMISSION.
SO LIU CLEAR YOUR POSITION WHO ARE YOU IN THE CLUB YOU ARE MEMBERS FEE COLLECTOR AND DISTRIBUTE THE MEMBERSHIP FORM HOW YOU GET THIS JOB SOME BODY ELECT YOU OR SELECT YOU.
SUN IS RISING AND DARKNESS SHOULD GO TO........ |
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Maxi von der Waterkant, father erasmus van noort, get puppies in the middle of march of Nero von Nöbachtal-son Nick vom Moorbeck. If u are interest please send us a mail
j.park@12move.de |
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| IM COMMING TO SEE YOU ERASMUS BOY ; ) |
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Great Dog, Does anybody have a daughter grand daughter from him in India for sale
Please contact me |
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| Erasmus will probably go to VA1 this year, if not VA2. |
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Erasmus proved himself again!
Wat do people have to say now!
Wait until the Sieger show in Germany and watch! |
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Erasmus convincing Hollandsieger 2005
He had a wonderful preformance and won dominant his class. V 2 Mike Estherlager V 3 Lauser Emkendorfer Park
Junghundsieger Holland 2005: Xoltan v. Haus Bretzel (VA USA Burschy z. Altenhof x USA Siegerin Acka v. Seebachtal) 2. Uhrak v. Breustedterhof (Mike Estherlager) 4. Ilbo Holtkampersee (Yak Frankengold)
Jugendsieger: Zorro v.d. Herdersfarm (Natz Herdersfarm) 2. Devil v. Santamar (Quentin Karanberg) 3.Vito v.Farbenspiel (Zamp Thermodos) |
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Hi! Distant Thunder, what's ur name?
I am actually still a very young boy and learning about the Dobermanns and German shepherds from Mr.Pradeep Lama.
You must have heard of him.
Please let me know the full registered names of your import DObes.
Incase u don;t want 2 disclose perosnal matters on this forum, feel free to e-mail me at Biganishmnair@yahoo.com. |
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Hi Anu,
I am from Calcutta, India. I have some dobermans...but don't breed too often....two dogs, three bitches....both the dogs are imports....one of the females is an import.....foundation stock from Mike Tham' dogs...I also have one shepherd....gson of Uro and Enco....6 RCCs...never a CC....big time fan of Wienerau lines...love Hirchels too....love dogs bull....take care...write soon....let me know about erasmus...
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Hi! Even i am a DObermann guy! which country are you from and wats ur kennel?
But i am also a great GSD ethusiast from India.
I think that as he is an excellent producer and very well cofirmed he should be VA1 and he is the dog who is still making Ursus von Batu famous! |
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hi....I am a doberman breeder actually.....but I love shepherds....
Erasmus is a bautiful dog....trace the breed pillars....structure wise....his body speaks volumes of what his performance might be....I love his type of bodies....a friend of mine has purchased a daughter of his by the name of Teba - sg 7 2003. would like to know more about him....what might be his position this year?... |
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Erasmus van Noort.....
I Can`t Stop visiting this fantastic GSD.
In my opinion he is one of the best good looking GSD in the world.
Beautiful colour, strong head good in construction.. |
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Erasmus is a wunderfull male. He have make a very good place in Karlsruhe.
We wish Erasmus place one in Ulm on 2005.
Week for Week we see Erasmus on training, he is wunderfull.
keep a good work,
Bärbel and Jürgen |
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this is the one of the best dog I saw at Ulm, One of the best progeny groups along with Nero's, Sure to take the name of his father and grandfather ahead !
Power to erasmus ~~ |
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It's a very nice dog, early I'll have puppies of him.www.querien-can.com
Spain. |
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I just love this Dog,he has a great son born at kennel Gildewangen. He´s name is Gildewangens Jazz Viktor and is he is fantastic looking young boy
hopefully we can get Erasmus blood here to Iceland one day.
Best regard from Iceland
Disa kennnel Gunnarsholt |
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| Well i think Erasmus was very well deserving of his VA6, i like his head, colour - everything about him. I think he deserves to go VA1 this year, he is one of the best gsd i have seen if not the best i like his breeding behind him especially the Ursus von Batu progeny and coming through Yasko vom Farsenspiel. I could look at this pic all day. |
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| I have heard some coments made about Erasmus Progeny, and now I have seen some and have a son of his. He is one of the nicest dogs I have ever had the pleasure of owning. Structure, character, pigment, the total package |
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| That would be shameful if he really did that. I think he the most best producing of the bitches in this generation of the GSD! I suspect him being VA, probably not V1 but in the middle. Hope he "feels better" for the 2004 Sieger show! |
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Salo perhaps didn't make a good placement after he made "standkooering".
Salo probably ' didn't feel well'! ;) |
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| do you happen to know why he was pulled back? |
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Brittany,
Salo is indeed a good looking male but was pulled back on last years Siegershau!! |
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| Very good looking male. He is young but im pretty sure that he will improve his breedings. I am drolling over the bitches that he has produced. the only thing he needs to produce better on is the males, which needs more bone. I really like one of his males of which he needs to work on producing more of, which is Salo vom Steigerhof that i expect him to be the sieger in the next 3 to 4 years from now, or less. |
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Eigentümer von Erasmus:
Adolf Middelborg, Rheider Str.2,26844 Jemgum
Tel.+Fax: 04958 747
eMail: amiddelborg@t-online.de
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Edzard Müller, Südschwooger Weg 6,26802 Moormerland. Tel.:04954 2760, Fax: 2673 |
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Why not go straight to the source.
Edzard Muller (the breeder and owner)
www.van-noort.de |
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Try tipei@acasa.ro in Romania and
WILHENDORF@aol.com |
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| Erasmus is producing very well I would like to buy a puppy out of him can anyone guide. |
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| Thanks Mr.Chad for the info.It seems that Erasmus is doing ok and it's not all that bad.Let's hope he'll produce even better. |
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I must agree with the comments made on the prodgeny so far of ERASMUS, although it is early days and at least this young male was able to put in prodgeny group, I have made a few observations on the young VA males who at this stage can only have SG graded progeny in the 12to 24 months age classes,in addition I have also listed each % of A- normal hips so far to date and the number of submited xrays to gain this percentage,this might give you some insight to possible future of these current young VA`s , I started this COMMENT with Erasmus so I will give his result first,( make your own minds up on who will make their mark in the future given time)Males and female results added together.
Erasmus...SG,2,7,13,16,21,35,46. 71%normal 25 submitted.
Bax.....SG,1,1,3,5,6,14,17,19,26,27,38,50.
70%normal 128 submitted.
Larus....SG,33,40,47,48,50. 45%normal 11 submitted.
Hill.....SG,9,11,19,22,36. 60%normal 41 submitted.
Ando.....SG,11,23,34. 81% normal 32 submitted.
Quantum...SG,1,4,8,16,18,20,24,34,44,49. 61%normal 35 submitted.
The above information is from data only available upto the 1st October 2003in respect of the hip graded results.Over time only the amount of animals submitted for gradeing against the amount that could have been will show the true results,although this short listing gives you some idea bearing in mind most have been screened/prelims, etc.
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| Only 2 exellent litters out of Erasmus were on the sieger this year. Both mother are Exelent Producer Ledi Bauhoferland(Cuck von der Lust) and Wendrina Kahler Heide(Ghand and Yella von Arlett). |
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| Very surprised to know that Erasmus is not producing well.He's got a lot of virtues.Guess all top dogs are not born to be top producers. |
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| His progeny was very disappointing at the 2003 Sieger Show. I was very surprised, having expected much better from him. The majority lackedsubstance and strength of bone, their croups tended to be rather short, and in many cases steep also. heads were generally disappointing. The progeny of Erasmus gave me some understanding as to why his brother has been getting well used, it appears he is producing much better, though I personally have not seen evidence of this so far. I await the Judges (Erich orschler)comments in the December Zeitung, with some interest regarding this dogs progeny. |
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| Well Odin 777,what to say since you have said all about this outstanding dog.I've seen his video and he's a brilliant mover too.Let's hope he will do justice to our predictions by producing well. |
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HELP!
A website (preferably FOC) that I can use to translate the critique on this dog.
Also looking for a son/daughter of Erasmus for show.
Thanks
Laris |
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Hi Big B
I truelu admire this dog a lot and this is my personal pick this year. I am basically a fancier of the Wienerau strains and this dog is truely reminding me of the Winerau standard once again. The rich mehegony color and the wonderful overline is just a fabulous dog overall. This dog has true anatomy with a lovely shoulder placement and good length of upper arm. This dogs progeny so far I have seen is that he is giving good type with clear over line and underline and very good croup placement.
Overall I like the expression of the dog as it has the killer macho look of the Legendary Winerau's
This dog is more over the type of the Quando strain and not of the Ursus type but the advantage using this dog is that by using him it will be an added advantage since the Ursus line is there in him.So you really dont know when something wonderful comes out.
What do you think?????. |
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| GREAT DOG.I'M FOLLOWING HIM FROM WHEN HE WAS SG2.IF HE PRODUCES THE WAY HE LOOKS I HAVE MY MONEY ON HIM AS THE SIEGER IN THE NEXT 2 YEARS. |
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| GREAT DOG.I'M FOLLOWING HIM FROM WHEN HE WAS SG2.IF HE PRODUCES THE WAY HE LOOKS I HAVE MY MONEY ON HIM AS THE SIEGER IN THE NEXT 2 YEARS. |
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| I think this dog is very deserving of his VA 6 rating in Ulm. Congrats |
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Classified: TOP MALE FOR SALE
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