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Classified: PREDAM STENA NEMECKY OVCIAK
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| I have a DAughter of Gucci. She has an amazing temperament but lack a little ih her nerves. She is extremely beautiful. |
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SUCH means that he is Swedish champion.
I don´t know if his offspring is badlooking but they have great temperament! |
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It is so easy to black list a stud dog...we must always remember that......it takes TWO to tango...some lines just do not work together AT ALL. Sometimes the female could also be a bit better....the "boys" are NOT miracle workers:):):)
It think if certain problems persist with many different breedings THEN there is a problem.
I would ask if anyone knows if he carries the LH gene or has produced many or several.
Let's also remember that this male has some super bloodlines very close up front
Thanks in advance
Michele
PS WHY does it say SUCH VA Triumphs Gucci? Is he going for his FH??? :) |
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Hello everybody!
I wrote an extencive comment about this dog and his offsprings and got a few responces.
Sadly this was only a short time before comments were erazed.
I do´nt feel like writing the whole thing all over again.
I will however recreate most of the points that I made in short.
If anyone have any questions regarding this, just post them and I will clearify it as soon as I return to this subject.
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Triumphs Gucci and the inherrited propperties of his offsprings.
#the most important of the inheritable properties ,the exceptional mentality and drives,are inherited by most of his offsprings.
#since I don´t live all that far away from kennel Triumph I have attended a large number of the same shows and many borkability-tests as Gucci.And I must say thatI am impressed.And I have very high demants and I am picky.
#He has been in use here in Sweden for a long time and he has NOT produced puppies with teeth-problems.Some have turned up ofcourse but the frequencie is far lower than the avarage.
#Gucci has not produced any notisable number of offsprings with faults as regardsto the ears.(except for one combinaton that should´nt have been made in the first place.Mind you that this problem eventually straitened itself out for most of them)
#Gucci gave most of his best qualities to his offsprings especially to the females ,Superious E-litter and Wilarttis Nellie,to name a few.
#ONE problem did occur in the first generation,though.The leangth and placement of the front legs were under expectation for quite a large number of the offsprings.
Note that this problem was not present in the second and third generation.
#I would also like to sugest that we all take a minute to think of and honor Guccis breeder Bosse Nyman,who passed on this fall.
He did so much for dogs in general and especially for this breed that he shares a place up there with Max.
To see pictures of good offsprings you will simply have to surf the net and look for them.Remember that not all good dogs are present on this site,and if a dog is not this does´nt meen that it is not as good as those that are.
I hope this information was to some help. |
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From this site only you can't judge. But e.g. the F litter vom Kichheck is nice, Bizmarks Hof Celly, Superiouès Ebonie, Toga von Fidelius...
He didn't produce an heir yet though.
So from the 2 best Quartz sons up till now it looks like Romeo is the one to carry on the Amigo/Quartz line, I think. He's an altogether better producer, and had Elan van de Herderskring, Kliff vom Trollbachtal (who is his short life left behind quite a bunch of great dogs) and of course Drago! |
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Hallo gsdDebby.
We are not taking about gucci as dog only as producer if you can give me 6 topp offsprings from this website then you have proven me wrong.And you allso have to know that gucci has been breeding in sweden,Germany and Usa so i think he´s got alot of females.And i think if you look at Gucci´s offspring what have they product?
I allso know that the web is a place that many people talk alot about everything.But i think that it is both good and bad.
Regards / Deep
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Remember that anyone can say anything they want to on the internet. Don't judge this dog by what the negetive people have said.(usually lies fueled by jealousy) Go to a show and judge for yourself. Go to his pedigree on this database and see his progeny for yourself.
He has been producing very well and now that he is back in the show ring he will be getting better bitches to add to the quality.
Deb |
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| Iam sorry to say that Gucci´s offspring is not so good.Gucci has bin a stud dog from the age of one year.And it´s easy to see that a dog that have had so long time to breed has to show more good offsprings |
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I agree, Gucci is wonderful "in the flesh" and it was so nice to see him in the veteran's class!
JDN - US |
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I saw this dog this past Sunday and he looks great. His off lease gait is outstanding. It is a shame more breeders are not using this dog. The dog is excellent in strucuture and working ablility. A strong kennel can be made with puppies from this dog in my opinion.
I have two young females in training for the SchH title and at least one will be taken to Gucci for breeding. |
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| JanisNovak, thanks for the translation :) i guess that answered to my question :) |
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Oberliene - Overline, topline. Kruppen - Croup.
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| Wiehenalle, can you explain (possible using a dictonary) the problems of his producings? |
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He has produced very bad.
bad Oberlinie(i dont now the englisch word)and bad Kruppen(i dont know ,too) |
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I have a Gucci grandson in Australia, The son is Triumphs Kazan and he has been twice silver medallist here, he is a beautiful dog stunning to look at moves like a dream. Temperament to die for. My dog is a house dog living in a family environment, has done well at show, will show him more when my health permits. Will try to put a photo on and list him when I can his name is Aldaina Bomba.
Hip Score is 1-5 Grade Normal.
Elbow Result Grade 1
Artheritic Change
Score is MM 0.00 normal MM >0.5 Grade1
Elbow Anconeal Process
UAP Not Present UAP Not Present.
Our Schemes here in Australia are very stricked, my vet takes the X-rays then they have to be sent to either of 2 universities were the are read by Specialist vets.
My opinion for what is worth, if looking at progeny I would go for it if you like the line.
Regards Freundhund
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| How well does Triumphs Gucci produce? |
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