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Puppy food recommendations (23 replies)
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I just figured out my pup doesn't like Taste of the Wild. I look in the internet and went to my local pet food store and picked up some Royal Canine for GSD's. She really likes it. I'm concerned about the quality though. Any suggestions if I should try something else. She's a picky eater.
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| If her health is good, she looks happy, her stool is fine, don't worry. You would see problems if there were any. I'd say 55 lbs. at her age is on target. Pretty girl! |
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http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/
Have a look at the above website to do some research, the Royal Canin I have used but it gets slated on the above website.
The best stuff we get access too in the UK is probably Orijen, it is very good (grain free) high meat content, it's very expensive here, nearly $70 for only 30lbs.
Personally I use Arden Grange in the mornings because we're all in a rush, then BARF in the evenings, chicken wings/carcasses, oily fish, minced organs/tripe.
My pup has been on carcasses sinces he was 6 weeks, and built like a brick sh*thouse, and now only 9wks.
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| "she dose not like it" hmmm spoiled dog any one? My dogs get what I give to them, and if they don't like it they don't eat. Switching between one food to the other just because the dog dose not like it creates bigger issues later on. Royal is fine food, not top notch but good enough, same for the Taste of the wild, neither of these can compete with RAW, so i say give the dog a bone and safe your self food and health issues. BTW dogfoodanalysis.com is a garbage site that analyzes dog food based on one think which is meat content, which for me dose not matter as all the food is cooked at high temp and kills most of the nutrition values any way. High protein no grain is just new fashion nothing more. Feed raw and you dog gets all he needs and you control the quality of food. |
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Snaiper
No one can scoff at Dry Kibble, It is easy to talk about feeding Raw if you can get it at a price you can afford, Those of us me included cannot feed Raw even if we wanted too,
I guess you folks have it easy in the USA regards feeding Dogs you have more choices of Kibble and at a cheaper price we pay heavy for Kibble and out of the atmosphere if we want to feed Raw
Steve1 |
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| She is spoiled I know but she was literally eating less and less to under a cup a day so I had to do something. I have her on 50% Royal Canine and 50% raw and she's doing great. She's more active and has a fuller look to her. |
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| Steve1, ANYbody who works at it can develop sources. I rarely pay more than 50 cents a pound for raw. That's a heck of a lot cheaper than premium kibble and gets even cheaper when you factor in the reduced trips to the vet for teeth, joint, digestion, and skin problems. It DOES take a little work and creativity to manage, but eventually everyone does. Find a slaughterhouse or a grocer or something. But then, I never tried to work it out in Belgium, either. How much is chicken there? Still over two bucks a pound on sale, which is what Orijen costs? |
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Steve, I never looked down on people that feed dry food, hope you didn't misunderstood me in any way. I lived before in Europe I know the cost of food, if I would be still there you might be right I would not do it, but at the same time it's easier to find a slaughter house than in states, especially my area. Raw can be cheaper than dry if you do your homework. But I understand that every region has it's limitation.
Feeding raw and dry it's bad idea, raw takes 5-8 hours to digest, while dry about 18, so you leaving raw meat in dogs gut for way too long you might do more harm than good.
BTW Steve do you go fishing? Fish is great RAW food for dogs ;), do your have any neighbor that is a hunter? well another free food source. Do you own chickens? Even head and feet are not bad food for a dog. ;) I learned that if you shop around raw is quite reasonable, but than once again I am comparing only to my area. ;) You don't have to give to the dog your stake ;) |
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Snaiper
Over here in Belgium you will not find Rivers except in the Ardennes about 90 km away from me. There are no streams for the Dogs to swim in only thing here is the King Albert Canal which runs through to the Nederlands
Regards Raw i would have to travel to the other side of Belgium to get to one then i do not have space for a big freezer so Raw is out,
If i buy two Chicken portions i pay about 9 USA dollars, Two portions of Salmon Small about 3ozs each cost about 8 USA dollars, Cod is about 20 USA Dollars for one pound weight
Steak is about 28 USA dollars a kg, 2.4 lb in weight I do not know how that compares to over in the USA
Steve1 |
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My Goodness Steve,
I am going to have to buy you a small freezer and a year's worth of meat! Over here you can get a family size pack of chicken leg quarters for about 5 dollars on sale. I'm not sure the estimated weight but it is about 8 quarters. A large pack...
And steak varies by the cut and quality, but you can get a decent pack of two steaks for about 15 dollars...And the lower quality steaks for maybe 8-10 dollars.
I'm not sure on the cod and salmon, it's a bit pricey but not that much!
No wonder everyone here in the US has a problem controlling their weight. We complain all the time how expensive meat is. No more whining here! WOW...
Matt and I say we would love to move to Belgium for a year to train our dogs. I don't think we could afford to eat though!
Stacy
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How much do you pay for dog food?
What you do is bug a few farmers, butchers, and small grocers. Most of them will be afraid to sell to you at first because there may be local laws against selling, say, expired meats to people. But mine came around because he eventually believed that it was for dogs; he now knows I do rescue, and isn't worried. He also sells some to pig farmers. (dang it). Anyway, the more you bug them, and leave a phone number, the more they will be tempted to make a fast buck off their garbage....
Also, don't forget the farm auctions....I know cowboys who get whole injured cows for 9 cents a pound (I know one guy who got a cow for TWO cents a pound), take them home and hack them up and feed them to the pack. Gross. Cowboys are kinda hard-assed, no? But the dogs eat well. Have any hunter friends? Get their offal and legs. And then when they leave the meat in the freezer until it's freezer burnt, get that too!
It's all about getting creative. Took me like 3 years to get my contacts solid.
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How much do you pay for dog food?
What you do is bug a few farmers, butchers, and small grocers. Most of them will be afraid to sell to you at first because there may be local laws against selling, say, expired meats to people. But mine came around because he eventually believed that it was for dogs; he now knows I do rescue, and isn't worried. He also sells some to pig farmers. (dang it). Anyway, the more you bug them, and leave a phone number, the more they will be tempted to make a fast buck off their garbage....
Also, don't forget the farm auctions....I know cowboys who get whole injured cows for 9 cents a pound (I know one guy who got a cow for TWO cents a pound), take them home and hack them up and feed them to the pack. Gross. Cowboys are kinda hard-assed, no? But the dogs eat well. Have any hunter friends? Get their offal and legs. And then when they leave the meat in the freezer until it's freezer burnt, get that too!
It's all about getting creative. Took me like 3 years to get my contacts solid.
PS. Don't forget about local cooperatives...
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| Whole chicken cost me about 3.50 from costco ;) chicken back well that's only .40 per 1lb. If you look around stores have extra saving when they go too heavy on their order ;) I call all my friends and if they are about to throw out any frozen food I go and pick it up, I called up all my friends that go fishing on regular basis, many times I can get whole fish, if not they are more than happy to give away heads which dogs love, dry food cost me about .40 -.80 per pound so raw cost me about .89 but no more vet visit, want to take my dog to vet well with whole check up and other b/s vaccinations thats 500 per year, you give your dog Oriejan right? Well in my city that's about 1.40 per lb dare to guess how much money I save? For long time i though the leg work is not worth it when you have dry around but than the consistency just tick me off and I said I will find the time and couldn't be more happy. |
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Over the period of living here i have been to 7 supermarkets around 20 butchers, without luck The cost is too high over here If i have a piece of Steak it is no more than 6 oz weight before cooked, if you have salmon its about 3oz weight but it is a rich fish so you do not need much of it
Stacy, Matt would get into that T Shirt if he lived here for just a short time that is for sure
Just for interest how much does a large loaf of white bread cost in the USA, over here it is 3 USA Dollars
Steve1 |
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Steve,
HAHAHA! Yes Matt would fit into that shirt in no time!
For a large loaf of store brand bread you can get it for about a dollar. Some of the more expensive breads it is around 3 dollars. I have always bought the cheap bread, but when I go to the inlaws they have the "good stuff" It really does taste better and is softer, but I will stick with the store brand myself :-)
Stacy |
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Costs are definitley going up here, and the bread I like is 3 dollarsa loaf.
I just bought 4 chicken breasts at .9 kg (2 lbs approx.) for $16.97. |
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| Shoot, I found chicken breasts last week for .89 a pound. Bone in. |
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| Well I can't get chicken brest for less than 1.49 ;) But I buy whole chickens so I don't care ;). Bread steve? Well too be honest I didn't check the price of bread since I came to the USA, is just so inexpensive here that you don't pay attention. |
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Yes you can even get a loaf of white bread for less than a dollar a loaf sometimes.
We just bought two huge pack of chicken leg quarters for 0.79 a pound... Not bad at all |
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| I heard that the Super Walmarts have turkeys on sale for 40 cents a pound this morning! Won't last long.... |
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Steve, man, you don't go to supermarket or to the retailers to buy meat and bones for the dogs, come on, you are an intelligent man...
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Adi
As i said to go to a slaughterhouse i have to drive to the other side of Belgium, Plus then i have no where in the house to put a big freezer to keep it in then it is just not viable
So its a Kibble for my Dogs with a bit of supplements and a bit of greens etc from our dinner and i always cook a little more greens for the dogs, tHe reason i went to the supermarkets and Butchers was to get ideas as to where i might obtain it cheaper but as there was nothing in it for them little responce except a few said the Slaughter house but as above it is not viable in my case, However My Dogs are never ill there coats are perfect, they stay fit and well on the food i feed them so change is not really needed in my case, unless it was as good but cheaper
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All granulated food of any price or no matter how shiny the bag is CRAP! All enzymes are dead! and causes bloat and torsion.
The best supplement and main source of nutrition is MEAT. Any meat. Organ meat, chcken , beef,.... You can not improve on that. Highest source of all that glucosomine, chondroitine, msm,.... is in CHICKEN FEET. Go visit local Chinese market. and make a soup. Mix lightly cooked meat with elbows (pasta), little raw blended apples or carrots with parsley and pinch of sea salt. Good for you too! :)))
Prager Hans
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Praeger
I have never seen a Chinese Market in Belgium, as i said Raw feeding is out over here the cost is too high plus the availablity of it as well. I have never had health related problems with dried dog food and i buy the best i can afford, and that is in many breeds of big Meduim sized dogs bit of course we know that you can and do.
i stay off the normal grain kibbles and i feed Orijen and Acana, Plus Greens with Parsely in them i always add Parsely to the greens for myself, Plus Salmon oil every day once a day+Hokamix Joint powder,
Vitamin E tablet one day, and Brewers+ Yeast+Garlic tablet the next day, Never a health problem in 60 years of keeping dogs, i think a lot of problems with these dogs is overfeeding and letting them eat too fast and feeding too much food in one meal i believe in feeding twice a day in equal amounts and give to the dog one fisful at a time not so it bolts the food down that way there should never be problems well not for me there is not
However saying all that i think Raw feeding is the best thing for Dogs and i wish i could but it simply is not on
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