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IMPORTING *URGENT* (17 replies)
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Hey all
I am in serious need of some guidance right now. I am not a kennel nor am I a breeder. I am importing an 8 week old puppy and she is scheduled to arrive from Frankfurt, Port of entry Atlanta, then here to Las Vegas tomorrow.
The problem is that in the flight conformation letter I received, it gave me an agent (broker) number to call who can do the customs clearance at the port of entry, ATL...
BUT they charge $275 which I do not have, no do I have any credit cards.
So I called a customs agent in Atlanta and she said they will NOT ship the dog on to Las Vegas without me having a broker?!?!?! Has anyone else heard of this? I have imported two other puppies in the past and have always gone through Customs myself. And it was only $35.00 or so.
Is there any way around this? I have been on the phone with different people from the different airports for about 2 hours now and have no idea what to do!
Any advice greatly appreciated
Thanks in Advance
Stacy |
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Unfortunately the rules for importing dogs into the USA changed earlier this year.
Many people are travelling out to meet their dogs and then bringing them back in as hand luggage to avoid this problem.
Good luck in sorting things. |
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| Prager knows of someone who may chagre a little less. |
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OK thanks all for the information SitasMom and Liebe...
I just called the lady back that I spoke to from Customs in ATL and she said that they are NOT going to keep my puppy there and they WILL still ship her to me. This is after she said there is NO WAY that they will ship her without a broker. (The broker that I spoke with tried to be helpful and told me that if the dog was I.T. -Inbound Transit, that they do have to ship her here to me
Anyway the lady from ATL gave me the website to download the forms and said that I can do it myself, just that most people prefer not to do the paperwork! I can't believe she had me in tears earlier telling me they wouldn't ship my puppy, and then changed her story when I called back!
I still have to speak to the people from Customs here in Las Vegas, no one called me back but I did leave a message. I think I will just keep calling until I get ahold of someone, just in case I still in fact do need a broker.
I spoke to a friend who is getting one of my puppy's brothers and he didn't have a problem when he spoke to them (he's in TX). $35 and he fills out the paperwork himself, just like I did in the past.
Grrrrr... this is damn frustrating. It is going to be a long time before I import another puppy.... I will keep yall posted on what Las Vegas says when I call them. Maybe it will help some one in the future. I am also going to stop saying how easy it is to import a dog too LOL
Thanks again
Stacy
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Well done in your persistence.
I hope all goes smoothly from here. |
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Thank you, me too. Hopefully no one changes their stories tomorrow when she gets here! It has been a difficult week for me and I could use a quiet week...Well as quiet as it can be with a new puppy :-)
Stacy |
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Good luck!
Let us know how it goes.
Jen |
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Hang in there..I get so mad , very easily and I get upset very rapidly when things like this happen...We were told that earlier this year our lovely Airlines, in order , to put money back into their empty pockets,,did change the import proceedures..It has been very confusing....
Most breeders do not need an agent...they are known at the airports.....I guess you just became a BREEDER and didnt know it....lol
fill out the paper and it is a pet...not to be sold...be sure you tell them she ,/ he is a pet for your home...they look up your name and if you have ever sold pups or have a listing come up you will be charged more......BEWARE of what you say....just tell them Your puppy is a FAMILY PET>>>YOU and your baby rest up and TAKE A DEEP BREATH>>>>>>>
Keep us informed..
YR
Why does everything we do have to get so complicated and messed UP??????? |
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YR,
Well since I am now a breeder, would you like to be on my waiting list? Hahaha. I now have 3 young German Shepherds with no titles and no hip/elbow certifications, yet. I must be one fine breeder LOL Yes things sure are complicated now. Thank you for the advice and the support.
A few very nice people have emailed or pm'ed me regarding this and I would like to share, and hopefully it can help someone in the future who is trying to import.
My puppy's flight comes in to Vegas at 7:00 pm. Customs closes at 4:00. Obviously if they are closed I cannot bring her home and come back tomorrow. No Customs clearance= No Puppy. They will keep her overnight and charge me $100.
It's still cheaper than a Broker, but she has had a very long flight and I really don't want her to be in her crate for over 24 hours! She most likely will have gotten airsick and even if not, I can be pretty sure that she will have had an "accident."
On the advice from another member here, I am going to see if I can get a pre entry clearance for her, which will require the breeder to fax over her tattoo and acclimation paper. If this is in the little book, it may not be possible and she will have to stay overnight. Or I may have to use a Broker in ATL if they have changed their minds about the Port of Entry clearance once she gets in. Either way I will keep everyone posted.
Thanks to everyone that has emailed and pm'ed with advice and information. I have really learned a lot about this
Warm Regards,
Stacy
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You don't have $275? I sure hope you don't need to spend any money on this dog once you get it........ |
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Posted By ForFoxyRoxy
"You don't have $275? I sure hope you don't need to spend any money on this dog once you get it........"
I'm sorry NO I don't have the money, until tomorrow when both my husband and I get paid.... That was pretty rude of you. In case you need to know why, I am low on funds, I had emergency sugery and I had to pay a huge amount in cash the other day towards my insurance deductable. Which really is none of your business.
I apologize to you for not skipping the surgery.
And if I do for some reason have to spend money on her when she gets here I can borrow it if I have to. The same as if there was an emergency with one of my children. Unreal.
Stacy |
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Importing a dog or pup isn't that hard if you've got a good knowledgeable person working on the shipping end. But it can get royally screwed up despite the buyer and sellers best efforts.
It's not something you can really just postpone right in the middle of the process. Vetting has to be done, flight arrangements, trip to the airport arranged, etc. etc. Switching around flights isn't fun or always easy. Health certs are only good for so long and none of this is cheap. It can also leave a bad tase in the sellers mouth unless there's an emergency that prevents things from going as arranged.
Sometimes crap just happens to all of us and we get caught short on cash. That's life.
Peace
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Well happy to say that everything went very, very well at Customs. Even though her flight was scheduled to come in after the office closed, the guy I spoke to (LAS Customs) was awesome! He gave me an after hours number to call and said that someone would be there and would help us out. He was true to his word, and sure enough they were there when they said they would be. My puppy is home now and tearing through my house like a wild child.
Thanks to everyone who helped me out in getting through this!
Stacy |
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i have the same problem with time from frankfurt to detroit and mnpls. customs at mnpls is always closed by the time the puppies arrive. i have tried having all paperwork faxed in advance and that does work, but the last time i asked mnpls customs to have detroit clear the puppy there since it was the first point of entry and was earlier in the day. that worked really slick, so as soon as the pup landed in mnpls i was able to take her because everything was already done. it seemed that the only thing they cared about was that the dog was for me and not for resale.
pjp |
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Stacy,
as I do know that there were changes made in the process of importing a dog/pup into the US, I am not sure about what exactly was changed.
But, I can tell you how it worked when I shipped a pup to Las Vegas last year. I had close contact to the buyer and I led him thru the process. It was basicly said from the getgo that the pup would have to be cleared at port of entry, Detroit,MI. They also tried to tell us that this could only be done trough a broker, as customs would not do it, they also told us that the pup would not be able to continue his yourney to Las Vegas. So I called customs at Las Vegas, and low and behold, they were very helpfull. They required all paperwork to be send to them and then they would clear the pup in Las Vegas, and then in return tell Detroit that everything is in order. So I did send the paperwork in Copie to the buyer ( Pedigree, certificate of health, Vaccination booklet, flight info ), who took everything to customs in Las Vegas. They did as promised, but of course we checked with Detroit if they recieved the paperwork. A mayor point is to write down any names you talked to, very important, as you now can present a person, if it comes to problems.
It was not a problem at all, Drago vom Sankt Martiner Tal arrived in Detroit, and continued his flight to Las Vegas in no time.
But one should really do all this at least a week before the flight, so that there is enough time to get everything done.
But I agree with mobjack, bad things can happen any time, and I for my part, am always nervous after I send a pup off. Beeing nervous holds on till the new owner calls or writes a mail that the pup is there, and all is well. Simply nervewrecking !
oh, congrats on your new pup.......have fun with it and good luck.
Ulli |
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pjp,
Everyone I spoke with (about 6 people total) asked me what I was going to "do" with the dog. I told them she is going to be my pet and I am going to do SchH with her. One lady asked me what I do for a living to which I answered, "I'm a dog groomer." And she sais "A DOG groomer!?!? You NEED a broker!" Geez! I didn't know every dog groomer was automatically a breeder or importer for others,,, haha!
Ulli,
Thank you for the well-wishes. She is a handful already. I really was happy that Las Vegas customs was so helpful. I didn't have the flight information until later in the day, the day before she arrived -so I felt like I was scrambling to get everything in order, and it ended up not being as bad as I thought it was going to be.
If I import a dog any time in the future I will do as you suggest and try to get verything in order w week before, to save hassles..
I wrote the breeder as soon as she got here and sent him a few pictures so he wouldn't have to worry about her :-)
Thanks again to everyone who helped me
Stacy |
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| Even if Stacy has the USD 275 or even a million dollars and she can avoid paying unnecessary extra expenditure, she should do her best not to pay it. Good luck Stacy |
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Foxy
If you are so scathing on a Person being low on funds then if you think it such a lowly amount then send it on to Stacy, But i bet she would not accept it, for she is a proud young Lady who can look after herself she said it as it was no need for sarcasem, I too am low on funds but if it came to it i would go without before my Dogs did nothing big in that just a fact and way of life we are not all well of as some folk are but i for one do not envy them for having more, i am content with my little patch
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