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Dwarf German Shepherd Dog (20 replies)
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| hellow all the guys
here i m with another new topic.does any one knows about Dwarf German Shepherd Dog? give your opinion and knowledge here. |
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| I found this to be an informative website:
http://www.accdata.co.uk/dwarfism/
Dwarf German Shepherds are caused by defective genetic material; however, this person is furthering genetic testing by requesting blood samples from those persons who own Dwarf German Shepherds. This is not a breed. This is dwarfism in a particular breed.
Other breeds took the dwarfism in their breed and continued breeding dwarfs - hence why we now have the Alaskan Klee Kai which is the promoted dwarfism of Alaskan Huskies. |
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| A similar thing was done with the corgis. When my friend had her latest litter, the pups averaged about 13 oz. in weight. Okay, this is unusually large for a corgi pup, but still, it emphasizes that this is NOT a small breed of dog, just one that has been bred to have short legs.
Link to a picture of the pups at 3 weeks:http://pics.livejournal.com/corgwyn
Click on the last picture in the second row. The 4th picture is especially relevant, as it show the pup in proportion to a human's legs.
My understanding is that dwarf Shepherds have other genetic defects, and multiple medical problems. Is that so?
(And just because we CAN do something in terms of breeding doesn't mean we SHOULD...)
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| I did read on a website when I was looking for an educational one for the OP, a personal website dedicated to a couple's (unexpected) Dwarf GSD who was euthanized at five years old due to medical problems. |
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| Pituitary dwarfism does come with its own set of health issues.. my understanding is that they ar first appear normal and then change as they grow to show differences.. and yes, from what I understand most do not have a verly ong lifespan.. mostly heart issues I think
A couple famous widely used dogs were known producers, one in particular.... |
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| http://www.shawlein.com/The_Standard/13_Breed_Type/Breed_Types.html
The fifth to last picture on this page is two GSD's one standard size and one dwarf.. I believe they were
litter mates, but dont quote me on that. Interesting to see, I had never known about dwarf GSDs before.
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| Uran carries the Dwarf gene, Fedor also carries it.
I have had 2 dwarfs. They are sooo cute and very funny, these little tiny things with the Big GSD attitude. Most do not live long a month or 2. The ones who live longer are plagued with medical problems. Most lose their hair and become bald, I have heard of 1 or two that were able to maintain the hair, But this is rare. They have a different look to them, hard to explain. If their health was better they would be so fun. The 1st one did not make it more than a few months, the 2nd one lived over 1 year.
It does not mean not to use the dogs for stud. It means to aware and bred away from the issues, this has been pointed out to me many times. I am very big on thinking these things should be out in the open for the betterment of the breed. This is a very good site about them http://www.geocities.com/heartland/meadows/6074/ |
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| A lady I know bred a GSD litter that contained a dwarf. She was the sweetest little thing & quite healthy. Sadly I just heard that she died a few weeks ago at almost 12 yrs of age. A good age for any GSD, especially a dwarf. She was adored by her breeder & will be very sorely missed.
It's a shame that most dwarfs are PTS when diagnosed, as with a little extra care they can live as good a life as a normal GSD. |
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| We have a dwarf GSD who will be 12 years old on 1st September this year. He did have a very serious heart problem at 12 weeks of age, and given only a few months to live. He proved everyone wrong!!!! He has had skin problems and loss of hair, so occasionally has to have a course of anti-biotics. He is on Soloxine for the thyroid and has now grown a reasonable coat. I know a lot of Breeders would have put him to sleep, but we and our Vet decided to give him a life. He lives in the house with us, and is a very good guard!!!! Nearly everyone that knows him loves him, but we do get the odd sarcastic comment that he should have been 'Shot at birth'!!!!
If anyone wants his pedigree, just E. Mail me. |
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| I never heard of a dwarf GSD before, though someone told me once they had a female half the size of my male, who seems smaller than most males.
I saw something really funny once-a rottweiler and Basset hound mix. He looked the same as a regular rott just like one with its legs cut off! He was so sweet, too.
Have also had mixes called shepherd/lab that were very small. |
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| This guy has been around for a long time trying to breed dwarfs. A complete idiot.
Amazing things people do with no consideration for the animal. |
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| I, for one would like to see some smaller GSDs bred though definitely not dwarfs. There are so many dogs around now that push the envelope as far as the upper limit of size goes. I would love to have a dog with drive, temperament, and conformation, only on the small side of the scale.
Pocket Shepherds anyone? LOL |
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What do you consider a Dwarf? I have an 8 month old female that is about 35-40 pounds. She is a MONSTER! Definitely a little pocket rocket! |
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Hello to all!!!
I actually have a dwarf german shepherd!!! he is one of the best dogs i had ever had!!! any questions I will try to be helpful and answer. My lil guy is 2 years old... full blooded german shepherd... stands about 14inches from ground to back and weighs 15 pounds. We have a 5 month old GSD also that our dwarf can stand directly underneath with out touching her belly!!! |
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Hi Memix, I realize that this is an old thread given new life but if you are still reading it may I suggest you go up to the top of the thread where is says search messageboard and enter dwarf. There have been a number of threads dealing with dwarfs.
A correction if I may to Andrea's post re the picture on Linda Shaw's site. The dogs are NOT at all related. I know I own them. Mr. Nemo - see to your right keeping his nose warm -will be 10 in August and is a Lasso Neun Berg son out of a Roten Mater bitch. The other dog in the photo on the Shaw site - the one doing the KISS impression- is Remy a 5 year old Dutch import who is my service dog and competition dog. Remy comes from KNVP stock .
Nemo is a pitutary dwarf. As in humans there are several types of dwarfs in GSD. Australia I believe was having a problem with the chrondoplastic (sp) dwarves ( look like Corgi's full body short legs). Pituitary dwarfs are deficient in the growth hormone and other hormones produced by the pituitary gland. They usually are proportionate in size tho they have a foxy look to their face. They vary in size and health and there is some speculation that is related to how much growth hormone is or is not being produced. The very tiny ones often have heart problems and tend to die young. But not all dwarves have heart problems. Nemo is a chunky 32 pounds and about the size of a 12-14 week old puppy. The pituitary dwarves are deficient in thyroid and need to be supplemented. This and the lack of growth hormone contributes to the skin yuckies and loss of hair. I have been lucky with Nemo. When he came to me 4 years ago he was going thru a very tough patch with his skin. I'm a great believer in supplements so started him on a regime that also includes a periodic low dose of DHEA which is a precurser to hormones. We managed to clean up the skin and in the process grew some hair so now he is the Don King of the GSD world.
Nemo is a very very special heart dog. He is an empath who knows the person who needs to be taken care of. He'll aslo do a bark and hold for an oven mitt and his absolute favorite work is sheepherding. The sheep know he is a big dog! He's been known to back down a ram. As my friend Julia (who had him for the first 6 years) says - he's never looked in the mirror. He doesn't know he isn't a big dog. |
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Annie so glad to hear about your guy and the fact that he is going strong. Let's both of us end up having a record holder in the age department.
Melissa, I agree Nemo is one of the best dogs I've had too. Can you share some more with us about your guy. I would love to see pictures of your's and Annie's dogs.
There is also a researcher in the U.S. working on dwarfism in the GSD and Nemo has contributed his DNA. If any one with a dwarf would like to participate ( it's a simple blood test) contact me and I will send you her contact info.
MPD it's unlikely your bitch is a dwarf. They are pretty recognizable by the age of 8-12 weeks because their growth pattern is so different, their hair is different and like I said they are a bit foxy looking. Sounds like your girl is right on track to be a "pocket rocket". We definitely have that in the genome and I for one love small typey bitches. I have known several and they often have a good "punch" to them. In the US until 1968 the standard had height AND weight limits and the weights for bitches were 45-65 pounds which meant of course you got some on either side of this range as well. You saw the small bitches more often back then but like I said - still in the genome and pops out now and again. |
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hi i have a dwarf gsd and hes lovely,,,,,the only thing is he loseshis hair ......was just wondering if any body knows how to help him as at the moment he looks like a fox with mange but he seems happy enough,,,,,,,i know some one in the netherlands has researched the blood line but i cant seem to contact him...... |
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Nemo's pedigree. Read it and weep. I know I did! http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/para.utkoma?fadir=108&modir=16223
There were two dwarves in his litter. I lost track of one when the owners moved, I moved, etc. , but Nemo's doing fine at nearly 10 years of age. :-D
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I'm thinking of purchasing a dwarf Shepherd.
Does anyone know if they come with a Dwarf Wife & Dwarf Children? Or do you have to purchase them separately? |
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Grant how old is yourguy? Do you do any dog sports with him? If you send me an email I will be happy to share info on the supplements I use to help Nemo with his hair and skin. |
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