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Black Spot on tongue
by makolady on 07 November 2005 - 03:11
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Can anyone tell me why some german shepherds have a black spot on their tongues? Do you know if this comes only from german lines? Thanks for responses!


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by Hudson on 07 November 2005 - 03:11
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I can't tell you why the black spots are there but it is very common. I have several with the black spots and they are all German lines.


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by SGBH on 09 November 2005 - 13:11
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You know I guess this animal is still evolving. 25 years ago, I never saw the black spots on the tongue, but now it is common to see those black/purple splotches splashed across the tongue. Each appears to be unique, sort of like abstract art. Stephen


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by DKiah on 09 November 2005 - 14:11
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Have had and seen many dogs with the black spots..... for many many years.... American show lines, European lines and many different breeds as well.... I've been told it's a pigment indicator.. not sure how true that is but every one of those dogs had great pigment!! All I know is it doesn't mean they have Chow in them!! A very common comment often made by the general public..


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by prasac on 09 November 2005 - 18:11
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My dog has the same black spot on his tongue & I found it very unusual. But seems like all r experiencing the same thing..lets c what other ppl have to say abt this!


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by knightenhaus on 09 November 2005 - 18:11
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Hi guys! I have found the very same thing. MOST of my GSD's have black spots. The american lines have them just like the german lines do. I have also heard that it is an indicator of good pigmentation and I do believe that it is true as the dogs I have also have excellent pigment. I have had pups as young as 6 weeks displaying this 'beauty mark' LOL. Someone once told me that it was where the tongue was bitten and it turned dark color due to the formation of scar tissue, but I do not believe that at all. Anyone else have any ideas about why the spots are there?


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by vfg on 09 November 2005 - 20:11
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When I was a child we had the presumption that in order to be sure that the puppy was a "pure" GSD the real test was whether he had a "black spot" on his tongue :)


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by prasac on 12 November 2005 - 07:11
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I have never heard of that the black spot on the gsd's tongue is a surity or so to say of the dog being pure bred. Has anyone ever heard about it? Is it true?


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by GSDfan on 13 November 2005 - 00:11
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Saying that a black spot is an indication of purity is nonsense, there are plenty of PURE GSD's without it. A friend of mine was selling a litter of GSD's and someone came to look at the litter interested in buying a pup. He opened all their mouths and looked at their tounges. When asked what he was doing he said "I am looking for a black spot to make sure their purebred" my friend thought he was crazy. However, I have heard that it is an indication of good pigment though.


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by Hudson on 13 November 2005 - 01:11
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Sorry about the above mistake. I bought a dog back because an ignorant vet told the person that bought the dog that it had chow in it because it had a black spot on the tongue. I talked to the vet and told her with my setup it would be impossible for my dogs to have any chow in them but she said she had seen dogs breed through a chain link fence. I saw another post that said they had a dog bred through a chain link fence. If it ever happens again I would love to have a picture. I had a dog that had a severely cut penis from trying to mate through the chain link but I do not think it would be possible. The man that bought the pup that was returned sent me pictures of the pup at about a year old and I sent them to the vet, but of course I didn't get a response from her.


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by stary_eyed_angel on 13 November 2005 - 02:11
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I was the one who mentioned dogs bred through a fence. The bitch was a chihuahua and the male that got her was of uncertain parentage but very small. Being so small they had no diffuculty getting the job done. I am honestly not sure if it can happen with a large dog but I find it best to not find out so I keep my dogs with me until they are spayed. What country is the vet in? If the USA, what state? I want to make sure I never get anywhere near her. I hate stupid vets. They cost too many loved pets their lives.


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by Hudson on 13 November 2005 - 02:11
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Stary eyed angel. The vet was in MS in the State of Mississippi in the good ole USA. I am sure they have these kind of vets everywhere. I am sure that she is a knowlegeable vet but she is very breed ignorant.


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by GSDfan on 14 November 2005 - 05:11
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How bout' posting the vets info and we can all send her pictures of "pure" German shepherds with black spots on their tounges so she doesn't do that again. What did you say to her, I don't think I could have kept my cool if I were you.


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by stary_eyed_angel on 14 November 2005 - 06:11
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Is the vet anywhere near Keesler AFB in Biloxi? My brother lives there though he's PCSing soon. I'd have a been a royal bitch to her to say the least. I am about tired of people telling me what my dogs are. They have done that since I was a child with every breed and it's getting really old. My current mutt is lab/shar pei/blue heeler/aussie shep mix. She has pretty feathering from the aussie in her but everyone and their cousin says it MUST be from a golden retriever because apparently no other breed has any kind of feathering. I am about to shove a dog breed book into a very comfortable place so they can see all the breeds with feathing. Seeing as that's where their heads are I figure it's the best place to put it so they can read it.


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by tighe on 14 November 2005 - 22:11
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It's a "place treat here" spot ;-)


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by Hudson on 15 November 2005 - 03:11
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GSD Fan I sent the vet pictures of the pup about a year later. The man that bought the dog that I bought back, sent me several pictures of the pup and I sent the pics to the vet with a curt little note with them. Stary Eyed Angel.. The vet is in Jackson MS


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by jade on 15 November 2005 - 21:11
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I recall the winner of the USA Nationals in 1975[ I believe it was in Dallas], had a black spot on his tounge. I think the owners name was Wayne Hammer,and the dogs name was Neko.I also had a Marko vom Cellerand son at the same time that had a black spot on his tounge.I also have 2 dogs currently that have black spots on their tounges ,so its been around for at least 30 years.I believe that it means they have black spots like some humans have beauty marks,moles etc.


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by SUPER-DAVE on 16 November 2005 - 07:11
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All things are possible even stary eye'd angels, simply close your eyes and imagine them. I think the dumb blonds have been in-breeding with red and black heads too, and the recesive gene (Dumb) is coming out all over the place. We need to establish a new breed standard for blonds. (start with no fence matings) it's causing metal polution of the brain.


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by quietflight72 on 26 July 2008 - 23:07
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my golden retriever is almost 2.i just noticed a black spot on his tounge.i dont thin that it was there before.



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by Bob McKown on 26 July 2008 - 23:07
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I just looked and my male has a black spot on his tounge and it is shaped like the virgin mary!!!! will I make the tabloids?



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by AhSighEE on 26 July 2008 - 23:07
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by DesertRangers on 26 July 2008 - 23:07
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My girl has a black spot and old wives tale means it was a good GSD.   Myself I think it might be a sign of good pigmentation but likely just a normal occurance as evidendenced by so many of you saying your dogs have one.



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by yellowrose of Texas on 27 July 2008 - 00:07
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 This girl has four spots on her tongue

 Right in the 

    Side up right under the lip                                                                                                                           middle of this one

 

 



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by mirasmom on 27 July 2008 - 02:07
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I just noticed Tessie has a black spot,

and she is 17 months old,

took me long enough to notice, I would say

 



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by yellowrose of Texas on 27 July 2008 - 02:07
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by radarsmom on 27 July 2008 - 02:07
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Radar has a HUGE black spot on his tongue -- which obviously means that he is an awesome and totally special dog!  I am not a tekkie so cannot post photos, but trust me, he is special!



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by schutzhund_girl_90 on 27 July 2008 - 02:07
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simple answer guys it's just a sign of good pigment. That's what I've always heard.



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by Milli on 27 July 2008 - 02:07
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My V special boy has two rather big spots right at the back of his tongue on either side I had heard about the spots coming from good bloodlines years ago ...myth or not lol my boy has good German breeding and awsome! IMO ;)

his littermate has the "special mark" also



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by yellowrose of Texas on 27 July 2008 - 03:07
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Thats exactly wht it means. Good pigmentation and from lines that have the darker pigmentaton. I have a sable girl also with a black spot on her tongue, Just couldnt get Mahon to get it in the camera view,,its way back in her mouth.

 

 

Many times, like Mirasmom, you dont see it until they are well over 1 years old. and a lot of time its way back in the back on the tongue...I have many dogs in my photogallery that have the spots on tongue , you just cant see it in their photos.

 

 



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by DesertRangers on 27 July 2008 - 04:07
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Makes sense and my female is a black sable and very good pigment............



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by Rainhaus on 27 July 2008 - 07:07
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A good "Chow" always had a black spots on the tongue.I have never been involved with that breed.But sometime ago..Moons ago.I heard that a black spot on the tongue meant the chow was coming through.I am glad that my three Gsd's dont have that.



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by Milli on 27 July 2008 - 09:07
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I'm not quite sure but i think chows are supposed to have a full black/blue mouth not a spot

 



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by senta on 27 July 2008 - 11:07
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 I think it is an indicator of good pigmentation.

One of this both ( left one ) has 2 large black marks, she is without inbreeding - the other has not black spot and is with inbreeding.

Does not mean any more than very good Pigmentation.



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by missbeeb on 27 July 2008 - 13:07
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The old wives tale that I'm familar with is that, it indicates a good temperament!  Why?  Don't know but I first heard it about 35 years ago and didn't think then to ask the question.



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by pinkplaya on 07 February 2009 - 20:02
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The only bgs i have that have a spot is from a female (that we were given, and was only black of litter born {purbred tri-coloured}) so somehow i would imagine the breeding of one line into another would have some thing to do with it.  None of my pure line BLACK shepards have spots.


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by RONNIERUNCO on 07 February 2009 - 20:02
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I HAVE A DOG WITH A BIG BLACK SPOT ON HIS TONGUE. MY WATER NOODLE HAS A FEW BLACK SPOTS ON IT AS WELL.


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by olskoolgsds on 07 February 2009 - 20:02
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We used to say, "hard biter". Dogs with black spots on tongues always seemed to be good biters.  I think this may be because the only dogs that we saw with black spots were usually German dogs and they were usually good dogs with good bites.  Certainly nothing to worry about.  I always liked seeing the black spots.  JMO



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by Okie Amazon on 07 February 2009 - 21:02
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Several of our dogs have a black spot. You almost never notice because it's so far back. Most of our dogs are a mix of DDR and Czech lines.


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by BubbaJ on 08 February 2009 - 02:02
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Breeding Airedales for 15 years I'd say there was about 30-40% incidence of pups born with black tongue spots. But never noticed any correlation with specific lines or rich pigment. I've seen a completely washed out color on a dog with a few big dark spots. The best explanation I've heard came from one of my med school profs and stipulated that mucous membranes in both humans and canines contain pigment producing epithelium. However, it's activity is subdued in people, but not in dogs, so a black spot on the tongue should be considered akin to a birthmark. That being said, if you ever see a black spot on your own tongue you might want to run it by an oncologist.... or consider a possibility of Chow DNA in your pedigree.


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by jade on 08 February 2009 - 20:02
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   i had a   va 1 marko vom cellerland son in 1979, that had a black spot..i first saw it on the usa national winner in 1975 ...i believe it was..."  nikko  "..wayne hammer's dog i think..i have several now with spots...


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by mirasmom on 09 February 2009 - 02:02
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I just noticed that my boy Theo has a black spot right in the middle of his tongue,
he is going to be 4 yrs old this year and I just noticed it a couple of days ago,
Do you think that maybe they develop with time or they are there at birth?



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by SitasMom on 09 February 2009 - 02:02
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Are these spots from birth or do they come with age.

I have two very nicly pigmented young dogs and neither have black spots.

It never accured to me to even look.


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by Jyl on 09 February 2009 - 03:02
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My two females have black spots on their tongues.  I have heard that it means they are going to be good strong working dogs. I have also noticed that they seem to have very nice dark pigment.  I too have noticed it more in the Czech and DDR dogs.
 Xena...Czech female..

Brix...DDR..


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by olskoolgsds on 09 February 2009 - 03:02
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Jyl,
Now those are black spots to be proud of !  When I first noticed black spots it was from W.Germ dogs, because ddr and czech dogs were not around at that time.  Either way, it seems to be more common working lines.


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by Jyl on 09 February 2009 - 10:02
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Thanks for the complements on my two females. I just think the spots at character.


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by sdowden on 06 April 2009 - 16:04
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My male is only 4 months old and he has a black spot on his tongue. We have noticed it since about 9 weeks. Would have to talk to the breeder and ask if they noticed it sooner.


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by Ramage on 06 April 2009 - 18:04
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My boy is mostly west working bred. He has a few larger spots half way down his tongue. As for the myths surrounding the spots, all I can say is that my guy has a very solid, full, hard bite and a great temperament. I have yet to own another GSD that compares to him and he is the only one I have owned (so far) that has the spots. Hey, maybe there is something to the myths? LOL I don't have very many pics that show it, but these give you an idea.





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by luvdemdogs on 07 April 2009 - 05:04
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My pure white GSD has a big black spot on her tongue, and she came from pure white parents and grandparents, so I don't think it has anything at all to do with pigmentation. 


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by MVF on 07 April 2009 - 05:04
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Dear Lord, it has nothing to do with anything.

Just some enhanced pigment ON THE TONGUE.

It would be an amazing genetic spandrel if it was genetically hooked up with anything at all.

 

 



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by luvdemdogs on 07 April 2009 - 05:04
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I always thought it was kinda cute.LOL!







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