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Post ReplyOLD STYLE GERMAN SHEPHERD by COSSACK on 23 November 2009 - 22:11 |
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| ADVICE ON WHERE TO FIND OLD STYLE GSD, HAVE ONE AT THE MOMENT BUT WOULD LOVE ANOTHER, HAD ONE TWENTY YEARS AGO WHICH WAS VERY DIFFRENT. THANKS FOR READING MESSAGE ALL ADVICE WELCOME |
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OLD STYLE GERMAN SHEPHERD by SitasMom on 23 November 2009 - 22:11 |
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| what is your idea of an "old style" german shephrd ? this term means many things to many people. a description and some photos might help. to add a photo....... click on icon if mountain and moon click on upload tab click on browse find you photo (use thumbnails its easier) click on send to server click on ok (box - your file has been successfully uploaded) click on height and change to something near 300 click ok if the photo is too big, move curser over photo and right click Oh, incase you don't know, all capital letters usually represents shouting.... |
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OLD STYLE GERMAN SHEPHERD by Setanta on 25 November 2009 - 23:11 |
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| Do you mean straight backed? There is a breeder in Ireland, Shammerdoo. I don't know anything about this type of dog or this breeder though. Just came across them in my search for a dog. Pictures on website. http://shammerdookennels.webs.com/atstud2009.htm |
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OLD STYLE GERMAN SHEPHERD by Vikram on 25 November 2009 - 23:11 |
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| Please share if you find some breeders breeding old style German Shepherd although I believe the definition of "Old Style" is open to various connotations and interpretations and hence subjective regards |
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OLD STYLE GERMAN SHEPHERD by Trotters123 on 26 November 2009 - 11:11 |
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| There are many, many different names for it. Old fashioned, straight backed.....the list goes on. I had a look at the link mentioned above and personally I wouldn't class them as either. The 'old fashioned' of my day was the police dogs of the 50's/60's Straight backed to me indicates the 'Alsatian' type which is in the UK. Here is what I deem to be 'old fashioned'  VA1 Condor vom Hohenstamm SchH3/FH Kkl 1 Sire Born : 01. May 1954 Not many like this around anymore unfortunately. The ones with the 'straight backs' or classed as 'old fashioned' are mainly from 'breeders' who breed for coat and colour - this is what I have found looking around anyway. I personally think one would need to get into the Army or Police lines for a true 'old fashioned' Frank |
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OLD STYLE GERMAN SHEPHERD by Sunsilver on 26 November 2009 - 14:11 |
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| I find it disappointing that the kennels like Royalair and Briarwood, which say they breed 'old fashioned' GSD's focus on large size and long coats, which has never been a part of the standard. They brag about how heavy their dogs are, Ignoring the fact that they are OVERWEIGHT!! Very few of them have working titles, either. However, I just stumbled across a kennel in S. Africa, which seems to be doing it right: www.olderhill.co.za/wolfdogs_1.htm |
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OLD STYLE GERMAN SHEPHERD by elenih on 26 November 2009 - 16:11 |
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| I have asked the ladies at Olderhill for information about their dogs, so that I can add them to the Database, but they have not responded to me... This is one of their dogs that I could find information on from pedigrees of local dogs I know - www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/615406.html They have a good reputation here in South Africa, (but not amongst the "show" enthusiasts) and I would love to see the history of the dogs they imported. - Eleni |
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OLD STYLE GERMAN SHEPHERD by Kaffirdog on 26 November 2009 - 17:11 |
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Hi Cossack |
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OLD STYLE GERMAN SHEPHERD by MaggieMae on 26 November 2009 - 19:11 |
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I posted this pix previously. Would you consider this dog to be an "Old Fashion" style? He is 3 years old in this picture taken in 1970 (old Poloroid pix). Family GSD. I like his back -- not totally "boxy", and not overly angulated. .jpg) |
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OLD STYLE GERMAN SHEPHERD by GSDPACK on 27 November 2009 - 18:11 |
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| Sunsilver. I have a question.... why are they doing it right? I could not find a dog that is proven. I found out that some of them are 70 KG... standard for a male is 40Kg.... and that is a big dog. Why are they doing it right? I was not able to find pedigreed either.... what am I looking at? Pack |
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OLD STYLE GERMAN SHEPHERD by Jenni78 on 29 November 2009 - 23:11 |
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OLD STYLE GERMAN SHEPHERD by Two Moons on 30 November 2009 - 00:11 |
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Old style is such a vague term..jpg) Straight back, long legs, Maximum. From the past,  This was a Kirschental dog. |
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OLD STYLE GERMAN SHEPHERD by Sunsilver on 30 November 2009 - 00:11 |
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| GSDPack, I am impressed by the number of Olderhill dogs that are suitable for police service. Normally, a breeder will be lucky to have one or two good prospects in a litter, while with the Olderhill dogs, the majority of the litter will have suitable temperment and drives. (I'm referring to the ones being bred in Sussex, England, specifically for police work. This is NOT the same as the kennel I linked to, which is in South Africa, though their dogs are line-bred on the dogs from England.) Yet these same dogs also make good household pets: the officers take them home to their families at the end of the day. That's the way the GSD was meant to be. It bothers me greatly to see our breed being replaced by other breeds in jobs where it once was the breed of choice (police service, seeing eye dog.) Some say this is due to changes in our society, and how people view the GSD. I think it's more due to breeders not paying enough attention to temperment, and producing a clear-headed, well-balanced dog in their efforts to win that next ribbon, trophy or title. OTOH, after examining the Olderhill (South Africa) site more carefully, I am NOT so impressed anymore by their kennel, and how it is run. Pedigree information is totally lacking. On another thread someone started about the kennel, it seems they have a number of unplanned matings. They do rescue work, and have more dogs than they can adequately look after. They charge 10X the going rate for their GSD puppies. Also, I'm not happy with any breeder that deliberately breeds wolfdogs. Someone once suggested to Tina Barber that she consider using these dogs as outcrosses for her Shiloh Sheperds. She declined, because there was so little information being kept by the breeder. on litters born, and what strengths and faults the pups showed. This sort of info is VITAL for any serious breeder. Therefore, I no longer think the Olderhill kennel is 'doing it right'! The police dog kennel in England, OTOH, may be doing things in a more professional manner. I don't have enough information about them to be sure of that, though. As for the size of the dogs, well, a large dog is going to be more intimidating to a criminal, and a dog being used for police work isn't going to be thrown out of the show ring for being larger than the breed standard. What matters is that he can do the work he's trained for. One of the Olderhill dogs was given special permission to keep working past his 10th birthday (manadatory retirement age for police dogs) so they are obviously strong enough to do the work, and not break down, despite their large size. Compare that to contemporary German dogs, some of which are dying of old age at 10 years!  |
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OLD STYLE GERMAN SHEPHERD by melba on 30 November 2009 - 04:11 |
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I believe I have an old style dog myself..jpg) She is on the small side, about 60lbs, but she is go anywhere do anything and is a natural herding dog. Melissa |
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