German Shepherd dog

I often see dogs with a very deep red pigmentation.

Or:

1/ The red pigment is in the dogs of the pedigree? Genetic?

2/ Food supplements? Which?

3/ Simple artificial colouring just like women do?? Has to be this way in some show dogs....

What do you think?...or.... Any suggestions for increasing the pigment?

Hi Arlette,

You seem to share a fancy like alot of us GSD people to the fabulous Red colour within some dogs coats. I would say that its a Genetic thing and it's all about correct selection of mating in order to get red pigmentation in the coats.

Did you ever get the Bitch you advertised for awhile back ? I noticed as I was on the hunt for a similar bitch at the same time? RED......!

Hi everybody:

To be very clear in this topic I think we must  talk only about the correct ways to get a beatiful red coat because it is absolute immodest to paint a dog for the show.  I am breeding many years for red german shepherds as a goal so I can tell you that this trait comes from genetics and it is not so easy.  You must identify and study the dogs that can transmit this color trait and work only with this type of dogs during many generations. It is obvious that this red dogs chosen for your breeding program must also have other top qualities required as temperament, movement, conformation,etc.

Other detail is that there are several different red types so be aware to use always if possible the same deep red. I have a collection of hair from my past dogs so I can develop the same type and can be aware of the same chosen color.

I have developed a top supplemment which will be introduce soon in the market in different countries. This is a natural pigment  which will  emphasize the color and can be given to your dog with his food. The dog should have a good normal color at least so he can get the best results. If your dog is already red it will look really fantastic. Anybody seriously interested can get in contact with me. 

Have a nice day.

Please if you are interested you can write to my mail siegerhaus@gmail.com or visit my web www.vom-siegerhaus.com

Thanks Moon, I was about to say that, but prefer if someone with more experience make comment like that. GSD is a working dog, his health, temper, workability comes first, everything else should be just a plus. Over time I learned that I always look for the most beautiful dog, but once I get it I really don't give a shit how he looks like, and his health, and temper is priority. Just something to consider for future buyers.

or tomatoes!

I tough tomatoes are not healthy  for dogs :)

Carrots i feed olewo carrots, they good for dewarming, and enrich pigment :) but like I said I don't care that much I use carrots because my dog loves it :)

Tracie,i have heard of the carrot thing do not know if it is true or not.The bitch in my avatar,which was my daughters,had carrots every day of her life,just cause she loved them.She never lacked colour,or anything come to that.ARTISIANM  tomatoes??????? is that what you give your........ dog,that's a new one in my 40 years experience in gsds i have never heard that one.Ah well each to thier own!!!! liz

BRADY BEE,you are being silly,god i hope cause i love cabbage and sprouts!!!!! liz

I have a Zamp daughter - very red pigment, no carrots, etc.  Just genetics. Here is a picture - Felice vom Amulree

I have many dogs who are very red from genetics, not crap supplements, or anything else, including carrots. Personally, I think it is silly to try to enhance the natural coat color of any GSD and, in my opinion, borders on unethical. Why do it? The dog coat is what it is. It is only one part of the overall picture of the dog, including structure. Temperament and working ability should be coming first.

At least one breeder in the past was caught painting a dog with dye to hide white on paws. So yes, people have been known to cheat, but now I believe there are some tests being performed to catch the cheaters. A good dog is a good dog is a good dog if it meets the standards. Trying to "enhance" something that is not there is ridiculous.

Do some people dye their Shepherds... really?

LOL... Loreal... because they're worth it! 

Thank you Liz!  Yes, I agree - her pedigree is quite nice on both sides.  I was truly blessed the day she came into my life.  Her Red is just one little thing that I love about her.

You won't find me complaining.....  Must admit she gets compliments everwhere she goes on her superior color and beautiful temperment.

Cheryl

I had a bitch (Buddy's Mum) who used to pick the black currants off the bush in the garden.  First I knew of it was when I caught sight of her VERY PURPLE tongue... I thought there was something badly wrong with her for a few moments, then I found a mashed currant between her teeth! LOL

Soli,

Sorry to be so blunt.

You are not going to convince me you can change or enhance the color of hair with a suppliment, vitamin, anti this or that.

You might improve the health and or look of a dog's coat but your not going to change the color of the coat.

If you could I would buy stock now and we could market this to women, that's where the real money is.

And truth be known, I just don't like salesmen, especially when it's an unbelieveable miracle this or that.   Hair grow, male enhancement, buy real estate with no money down, lose 40 pound's with this pill.  Gimmic's gadget's and snake oil.

Maybe I've seen too many tv commercial's, or maybe it's being the son of a salesman and knowing the move's, Maybe it's just that time of the month and I'm just not receptive.

Mainly I just don't believe it.   

Everyone has the free will to decide for themselve's, its not up to me.

Moon's.

OR TOMATOES,LIKE YOUR 1ST SUGGESTION!!!! PERSONALLY I BELIEVE IT IS THERE OR IT IS NOT,BUT IT CAN BE ENHANCED SLIGHTLY,THE OLD BAY RUM WORKS WONDERS!!!!  LIZ

How vain of some humans to want to alter the colour of the dogs coat. Do you think the dog really cares, let alone knows what colour it is!!!! There are far more important things to consider and worry about.

LOL LOL LOL, Liz, I thought you meant you'd been drinking the stuff (made 'em look better) not applying it to the dogs!!!  What is it?

Hi two moons:

I do not want to convince you by no means.  I just want to share with GSD breeders something great, new and natural. It is  usually expected that some people can began playing with bananas, snake oil and some other comments. 

 If  you want really to have the chance to comment about my product I can post you a free sample.  I just  will like to have your address and complete name. The product is really good so if you want to tried please just get in contact with me.  In 15 days you will see results and you can put them in this forum.

I only intend that you can begin trusting people and not make so quick comments. I am sure after you tried your dog with this  natural supplement you will call back.  I do not blame you for your first reaction to my note.  All first 10 dogs in the BSZS must be hair tested to check if they have artificial colors but if your dog is fed with carrots is not cheating.  Our product comes from a flower that has much more carotenoid natural pigments concentration than carrots.  I hope to hear from you soon my friend . Regards .

People lack discrimination and knowledge, so yes, anyone can make up any concoction and sell it to the next fool who comes along. There are plenty to go around.

Feeding your GSD a balanced, healthy diet SHOULD be all that is necessary. The dogs are what they are, and they should not be what we try to make them by hook or crook. Isn't it a sad commentary that even in dog shows now one must test for substances to see if fur has been manipulated. What in the hell is the world coming to? Have so few so little honor anymore as to simply compete honestly?

In fairness Snajper, I think the majority feel pretty much the same, besides a colour "problem" (if that's what it is) can be bred out very easily!

I love sables... really dark sables but I only ever see this colour in working lines... as yet, I haven't tried to dye mine inside or out LOL!