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Classified: Pure DDR litter has arrived!! Born 8-7-08
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LORENZO WILLIAMS (20 replies)
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BEWARE; I BOUGHT A MALE PUP FROM THIS JOKER IN SEPT. AND STILL HAVE NOT GOT MY PAPERS ON THE DOG . AFTER HE SAID IN SEVERAL EMAILS THAT HE WAS GOING TO SEND SOMEONE FROM TENN. TO PICKUP THE DOG AND BRING ME THE MONEY I HAVE INVESTED. STILL WAITING AND NOW HAVING TO GET MY LAWYER INTO THE PICUTRE. SO PLEASE STAY AWAY FROM THIS JOKER IF YOU WANT YOUR DOG TO REG. BAD BUSINESS LORENZO!!!!!!
DAVIDB.
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Please lets not get his name on this board. We have been blessed to be rid of him for a long time. He terriorized many people on this board with unknown videos and things he was caught doing and has been kept off of here. Let it go and do it somewhere else. I dont know if he can even get on here. Last I knew he was under investigation by three agencies involving internet dealings and it aint nice.
Private pms would be nice instead of infecting our nice site here...Please dont start it up. Many people have things they can share privately. He is not a nice person and cannot be dealt with. HE uses his internet , email knowledge to threaten people, long after he is done with them. |
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| AhSighEE,
If you just joined a mere couple of weeks ago...
Who are YOU, really? I don't know Lorenzo, never met or communicated with him. But, you are definitely coming off as a Troll.
That being said, between the Ray Jeffers thread and this one, well... |
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Just so you know sometimes it takes a long time to get papers on dogs that have pink slip to be changed etc... I would not get mad at any breeders for not getting papers right away, I know of a guy who just got his papers after 2 years..no big deal Nothing stops you from doing anything with your dog anyway, why the big rant over papers..As for Loranzo I don't know him to comment I am speaking specifically about "paper registration" |
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...So David B is wanting "Lorenzo" TO PICKUP THE DOG AND BRING ME THE MONEY I HAVE INVESTED.
David has owned the dog for 10 months and he would agree to have Lorenzo Pick up the dog? Why would he give up the dog so easy after all this time? Wanting the papers after the dog is now 12 months (?) old is reasonable but not giving up the dog. 
If the breeder will not be able to get papers then he is legally obligated to offer a refund. As the breeder why there is a delay and for a specific timeline of when you will receive them. If they are never going to be issued then ask for 1/2 back on the dog and keep him; place him with a family member or friend if you want to. Understand that you would probobly have to file your case in the county where the Breeder lives and with an Atty from that state.
Best to work it out in a civilized manner.
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Dont quite know what a Troll is but can definately assure you I am not one. Your attack needs to go to the crooks of our breeding world and the ones who cause the trouble and not on posters. THis is a public forum for German shepherd readers, fanciers, breeders, and humans who like the german shepherd. You dont have to know who I am. I dont want any ones opinions and I certainly dont need to hurt anyone who is legit. You may ask others who you know personally about the reputation of such given people talked about here.Mine doesnt count if you dont know me but I will never let people like the two you mentioned be exhonorated here. They belong in the hanging styles of the local magistrate.
You believe as you wish. Freedom rings thruout our Country of America and we are blessed to be able to write it and read it.
Have a nice day. I certainly will. |
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I do not know what a Troll is, but I can assure you I am not one. My other message disappeared off the map, so I wont retype it.
I will not stand by as this is a public forum , by Oli, and he knows who I am, so that is all that matters. I do not want anyones opinion and I do not want to hurt legitimate people who love and breed our Shepherds. But , because I am very well knowledgeable about these dogs and have lived many years in Oklahoma and love the breed. , dont think that many people dont know names and what their reputation holds. Talk to some of your own people, Mystere, and you will find all the facts you need . Maybe Hodie could fill you in. You dont need to circle me and think Im a negative. I will not let anyone defraud if I see it and can speak my free speech.
I live in America and freedom of speech is still allowed and you have no need to know who I am, not required to post on this public podium. Im not running for office or your approval. Just as you are not either. Starting a "troll" incinutation only starts what Oli has warned about here.
Hope you have a nice day..Call some of your people who have high reputations and do things the right way and take their opinion polls.
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I have bought 2 dogs from Lorenzo.. First one was a female out of Max and Amanda. Very nice, very high drive. She was everything that he said she was. Although the paperwork did take a while, Lorenzo always kept me updated on the progress and I did get my papers without any issues. The second pup a male out of Max and Adrie, also a dog that was everything that Lorenzo said it was. Still waiting on papers for him, but I'm not worried as I know, especially with AI breedings the paperwork can take some time. I got another pup from a reputable breeder a few years ago that took a year before I got the papers. Sometimes the breeder has no control on how fast the SV, AKC, etc works. So far I haven't had any problems with Lorenzo or any problems with any business dealings with him. He always checks in with me to keep tabs on the dogs progress.
Uwe Doose
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| I import and have pink papers and AKC within 5 to 6 months tops.
It should never take 10 months or longer.
Lorenzo jacked me around a few years ago on some green dogs I have had nothing for him since. Now he thinks he is a dog expert then he knew nothing.
Sounds like Hesler and him have teamed up, lol.
Jeff
www.tristatek-9.com
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I got a female from Lorenzo got the papers right away as stated and no suprises dog was exactley as stated, I guess any one can be a sinner to some and a saint to others depends on your outlook and attitude.I know many people who have waited over a year for papers, it is what it is. |
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This guy has a website I think, so if people are interested in him they can go there and look. David B. maybe you should have posted it. |
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Hi David. Thank you for having the internal fortitude to want to warn others. Veronica |
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Sorry to have to say it but that is the bum!! He is a real peace of crap.
DB.
FOR THOSE WHO THINK THIS GUY IS SO GREAT PLEASE DO YOUR HOME WORK.BAD NEWS!!!!!!!!I WISH I WOULD HAVE.I HAVE BEEN IMPORTING DOGS FOR 25yrs.NEVER HAD TO WAIT MORE THAN 5MONTHS ON PAPERS.
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David": A bunch of us already know that..
DO your homework and ask for references and check the info you are given . |
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To clarify what I posted in the first post above.
I was not telling David B to do his homework. I was telling our site people and new people to do their homework , get references, check each reference and info given as the the truth of all of it.
In no way was I directing it towards David...I should have made that clear, but I am tired of typing paragraphs to explain. SHould have been made clearer..
This was brought to my attention and I could not figure out where someone thought I was making David look bad...NO way..He got rooked just like a lot of other german shepherd people believing what was written on a site advertising said person.
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| hey, are you the david billiot, dog trainer in louisiana? |
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Hi Iluvmygsd: your mighty observant: where have you been? Glad to see ya posting..How is that boy of yours. Still the BOSS? |
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hello yellowrose :)..im finally back online....my computer has been down for a while, it broke and we were in the process of moving so we just recently got it fixed...i was checking up on the database from time to time on my phone but the screen is so small its kinda aggervating, anyway boos is doing great (thanks for asking:) and i plan to post some new pics of him soon. |
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