HOUSTON -- In an exclusive investigation, FOX 26’s Randy Wallace told you about an area kennel owner dogged by lawsuits and consumer complaints from around the country.
In this latest report, you'll hear from two Louisiana dog breeders who in BBB complaints and complaints to the Waller County Sheriff's Department, claim Moore sold them dogs infected with canine brucellosis.
The way Texas state health officials and health officials in Louisiana reacted to the highly contagious and usually fatal disease couldn't be more different.
My thoughts....why as a 'breeder' would someone go in and buy TWENTY SEVEN dogs from this guy to take back to their homes to start their own breeding practice. The 2 main women on this video IMO are probably not any better than the guy that sold the dogs to them. Obviously they did not stop to ask about health clearance and such before bringing the dogs back to Louisiana and breeding them. This is just around the corner from us.
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My thoughts exactly. I have no sympathy for these women who bought so many from the one guy. They are puppy millers in the making in their own right. I hope they all loose all their money and lots of sales for a long, long time.
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i couldnt get the link to work (posting from my phone) what is canine brucellois? im in louisiana...is there anything i can do to stop my dogs from getting this, is there a vac for it? what are the symptoms?
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26 pups, lol thats a lot :). She was starting a pupy meal or something? lol I don't feel bad for those wanna be breaders I hope they all lost every single dollar they had invested. Why people treat dogs like a money making machine? And than they act like they are the loving dog owners when in fact the only thing they love is the money they make. Its just sad.
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What you all are saying about puppy mills is totally valid.... BUT you are missing the point..... this is highly contagious... can destroy legitimate breeding programs..... they don't test for Brucellosis in Germany.
Canine Brucellosis outbreak in Texas transported to La
Actually I think it is exactly the point. Had these bybing puppymillers thought to have those dogs tested before purchasing them, the original miller would have been made aware of it and it would have hopefully prevented the people from purchasing breeding stock from him. I however doubt it because they probably had no idea what brucellosis was prior to this anyways.
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tbm: Hey there: Who in the world is the owner of this kennel. I saw a name and surely its not the same man I knew once upon a time..ha
Ok , my daughter is on her way to your area, to stay at the St. Francis Wolf Reserve:::??????not sure that is the correct name. She called just now as I started to write here, and I told her I was on here and you are from that area.
I had no time last week or the 10th to stop and call and find your group, as my time was limited and gas was eating my lunch..up and back two times.
Hope you inform your club members about this dreaded mistake people make..A vet here in Henderson, Texas tells people, oh we dont do those bruscellosis any longer in our area...yeah right..I sent the woman packing right back to him. And her bitch had it.I have the papers to prove it and it burned me up that a vet would tell a client such a thing.
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My point for posting. to alert folks that it is in fact still active and dangerous. ShihTzu's have become very common. How many were sold before the guy was shut down? Is it possible that those owners have GSD's in their households? etc etc you can see where it goes. Perfect example........ A known kennel to this board had several different types of small breed dogs as well as GSD's, Mali's and then Rotts, If 1 of his dogs had Brucellosis and he was not careful of sanitation and/or did not require a brucellosis before breeding........
Being a groomer I always worry about transmitable diseases, especially since I take Mischa with me most times.
Therese
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Brucellosis is contagious if you come in contact with blood, semen or the sac of a fetus born to a female with the infection , and you are not knowing of it.
Artlcle is only one on the subject. On Yahoo google there are a bunch more to read
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It is also transmitable by urine, feces and in kennel situations can be airborn, is it really worth the risk to test the ways of transmission?
I just wanted to alert those in Texas and La that frequent the board that there had been reported cases. Better safe than sorry. Since I also board animals I take great care of sanitation and always try to stay on top of possible health threats in this area.
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First of all I am one of the breeders you are all talking about.I am a "in home breeder."My dogs are all inside my home and are not in kennels.They have never been in cages.All of my personal dogs were tested before these came here and all live inside as my pets, so to the people who called me a puppy mill if you don't know what your talking about you need not point fingers till you got the facts straight..I was an honest person thinking I was dealing with another honest breeder like myself..I was not starting out as a breeder, I have been a breeder for years and have a great reputation as one. And yes I knew about all the diseases but you can't see Brucellosis.Your welcome to come see my dogs anytime.whats left of them.Yes my dogs cost me money ,I have champion line dogs.I was told these dogs were a.k.c. dogs they were not.Everything was a lie.The guy told us he was getting a divorce needed money and we had to BUY ALL 27.I didnt want 27 dogs.other breeders here purchased them.It was all a lie from the get go.He sent fancy pictures of his kennels and to have fooled me he could fool anyone.I went online and tried to research his kennel name before I drove all the way to Texas.He had changed it.If he had given me the real name I would of never bought those dogs.And ,Yes, all the dogs came with what he said was all the medical papers for each dog. After we got back to La. They didn't match up to the dogs or their micro chips.There were no medical papers in that folder.You do not know what I have been through so If you don't know what your talking about and wishing I lose every penny you have no heart.I lost something more important then MONEY I lost my dogs my best friends,my pets.And I still am losing them.Put the blame where it lies on Him.He knew he had this in his kennels years 2 years ago Texas knew it had reports on it and nothing was done to him and to sell those dogs knowing they had this is a crying shame.. Its not just us who purchased dogs.The B.B. has hundreds of complaints on him.There were many dogs there.Innocent people out there just buying a puppy for thier child and guess what???They can have the disease that CAN be transmitted to people in thier home and don't know it .What will it take for a human to contract this for something to be done.Better hope it's not me or my family.Take all this energy you are using to bash me and the other breeder and write and get laws enforced in your state.Any dog can have this and you won't know it unless it is tested.I had enough of all this bashing.I love my dogs and know I am a good breeder.the guy was NEVER shut down and is still selling dogs with this and other diseases to the blind public.I had my say and will recover.I have my own reputation as a breeder that will keep me going.I am honest and will stay honest.
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If you know for a fact he is still selling dogs that are ill with Brucellosis, or if the dogs you purchased tested positive for it, here is the contact info for the head of the zoonotic diseases division here in Texas, He is wonderful to work with as is Angela at the offiec with him. I dont know the laws concerning this type of problem but I I can promise he will or will have the info asap, I trained under him for my ACO and he is very personable. I am not sure if that breeder is located in our region or not but Dr. Wright will let you know. You are the best person to present the information since you are directly involved. He is a man that takes action when presented with facts that are verifiable.
Good Luck :)
Therese
James H. Wright, DVM, MPVM
Regional Zoonosis Veterinarian
HSR 4/5N
903 533 5243 Fax: 903 533-5383
email: james.wright@dshs.state.tx.us
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I wonder sometimes as I read these message boards if people really think about the situation at hand. Here we have a man in Texas supposedly selling dogs all over the United States and in some international countries allegedly knowing his dogs are infected with the deadly disease Canine Brucellosis. I use the words supposedly and allegedly because I have not dealt personally with this person but have talked to the people that are involved and have seen clips on Fox news and also the documentary on Special Edition. Instead of cutting down someone who is trying to stop this evil person from spreading this disease all over the US, I would think you would be more interested in helping stop him.
I speak with rajun cajun frequently and have gone through this night mare with her from day 1. God can only help those who will fall prey to this man and his scheme. The said dogs involved here were not bought for one breeder, but several breeders put together to purchase a few dogs which they thought would be in a healthy condition. When they arrived at the kennel, they were brought to a well kept clean environment on well kept manicured grounds. They were handed a folder full of papers claiming to be health certificates, registration papers and any other legal document that was necessary to complete the final sale. After asking as many questions as they could think to ask and getting the perfect answer "they wanted to hear", they were satisfied, loaded their newly purchased dogs up and headed home to what became the twilight zone to too many breeders and family pet owners. This night mare isn't over yet, to some, it is just beginning, to others from years past, it is finally coming to a close, only because it has completely wiped out their kennel. On one of the clips, it showed a little girl loving her puppy that she had received from this man. My thoughts were of my little granddaughter holding a puppy that was contagious with a disease that she could herself catch and actually die from. People she had nothing to do with any puppy mill, we are talking about a pet for an unsuspecting little child that only knew how much she loved her little pup. Would you want your child to be the one holding this diseased puppy, kissing on it and letting it lick her in the face. Knowing what I know now, I certainly don't, and I hope you wouldn't either. Hopefully you would want to stop any source capable of allowing it to happen.
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Thank you Therese, for bringing this to the attention of other breeders/dog owners.
That was the entire point of speaking to Fox 26, to make sure people were aware.
I am however appalled at the others on this forum who instantly jump to conclusions without knowing the facts, particularly from a forum who promotes so many kennels/breeders. I can assure you, the "breeders" who spoke to Fox 26 are NOT puppy mills.
Puppy Mills = 100% HUMAN GREED. The ONLY thing that matters is the money. If any of those women who spoke out against David Moore (owner of the Texas Kennel/puppy mill) were puppy mills (or even irresponsible breeders) themselves, do you honestly think they would have taken the financial RISK of exposing themselves on Television as a breeder who has dogs positive for Brucellosis??
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No, they would not have taken that risk. They would have kept quiet, kept to themselves, and simply had the positive dogs all put down with out anyone knowing, hoping no one ever found out they ever had a positive Brucellosis dog, as to not "ruin their reputation" and dent their pocket books.
Those women (myself included) came forward, in a very public way because they not only love their dogs, but they love ALL DOGS and did not want to see this happen to other dogs AND the people who love them!!
Just because they "purchased" 27 dogs from David Moore, does not mean they purchased all 27 for THEMSELVES.
For example, the purchase of MY DOG, was prearranged before they ever went to Texas, and I picked up my dog as soon as they got back. Some of the dogs went to other breeders, and also a person who has several "rescued" dogs.
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As far as having all the dogs tested before buying them, the SELLER of those dogs is a CON ARTIST!! A good con artist, CAN and WILL con even the best of us. He made everything on the surface look perfect and completely in order.
If you think you are "immune" from being conned or scammed, think again. It happens to good people every day, who think they are doing everything right. Case in point, Enron - The company we all know and who Fortune named "America's Most Innovative Company" for six consecutive years, defrauded it's customers, along with all their other unscrupulous actions.
How about doing some research on Life Lock (a service that is also, by the way, being promoted on THIS website). I doubt their current membership of 700,000 think they are being scammed. Guess we will find out once all the law suits have finally made their way through the courts.
We all know hind sight is 20/20, and sure, there are things looking back ANYONE who purchased a dog or puppy from David Moore could have done, but the fact remains, this man KNEW (already proven in court) he had Brucellosis, as well as numerous other diseases and infections in his Kennel. He sold those dogs stating th
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He sold those dogs stating they were healthy (with paperwork that ended up not matching up to correct dogs) and up to date on all immunizations (which they were not). He now KNOWS he sold Brucellosis positive dogs AGAIN, and yet he still continues.
All of the "right" people in Texas HAVE KNOWN he has been doing this for at least the past 5 years (in Texas).... he is still not shut down. He was also doing this in Minnesota before he moved to Texas.
There is one very important thing I want to make clear here, and that is, if you think Brucellosis is only a "breeding" problem, you are completely wrong. We have been talking to people from all over, who purchased dogs from this same man, and their other dogs have also become infected, even though they never mated with the infected dog.
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As far as breeding goes, YES, any "responsible" breeder has their dogs tested for Brucellosis BEFORE breeding, but guess what, a "negative" does not necessarily mean the dog is NOT infected. The incubation period can range from a few days to a few months. Lets say you get a 2 year old female, who test "negative" when you get her. You then breed her to your champion male (who also tested negative). 2 months later, your female delivers a litter of dead puppies, so she is tested again. This time, bam...positive, and the last 2 months, she and your champion male have also infected every other dog they have come in contact with.
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Now imagine if you have a champion male you use as a stud, not only to your breeding program, but time to time others that you "know" and trust. You breed him to a female who has just tested negative (but is really infected). Your champion stud is now infected and you have no idea, since you were shown that "negative" from the female. For the next six months you decide to only use him in your own breeding program. Since you know, (or think you know) he is negative (you were shown that negative test, right?) you breed him to all of your females (who were also tested as negative).
Until you are faced with this nightmare, you really have no idea how horrible it really is.
Here is a really good article that I encourage you to share with every dog owner you know, especially breeders. It has basically all the same information as any other article on Brucellosis, but written in a more down to earth format.
I am sorry you had to go thru what you did with your dogs. Thank you for the information and link.
I recently had a client that had a male dog, it was dripping nasty green and as always I brought it to the attention of the owner. She asked what might cause it and I told her numerous things and started listing some. We then got on the discussion of breeding ( the dog was a shihtzu she planned to sud out) and told her she needed to be sure to have any females considered for breeding tested for brucelossis as well as having her dog tested. She went home and within hours there was someone posting on our local town message board blasting me out of the water for mentioning brucelosis saying that the vets had said it was extinct and had no affect on people whatsoever and basically trashing my reputation for even suggesting that it be tested for before breeding, I am not a vet, what right do I have to tell someone that there is a disease that might be contagious to their dog or others that should be tested for etc etc. lol right then and there I stopped teling clients anything except the usual, your dog has some irritation in his ears you might want to get checked out etc.
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Here are a few web sites I found with tons of information on Canine Brucellosis. I want you to know this is not a shut your eyes it will go away disease, it is here to stay as long as we have people like these puppy mill owners that can not or will not be stopped or put out of business.
I hope you go to each and everyone of these sites. I am a small time hobby breeder with only 10 breeder dogs, but when I heard of this and read this information I contacted my vet and set up appointments to have all my dogs tested. I was one of the lucky ones, even though I had purchased dogs all over the US, not knowing of this disease and not asking if they had been tested for it, all my dogs were negative thank God. But I could just as easily have purchased an infected dog like these ladies did because of lack of information of this disease. I think a new law concerning this deadly disease needs attention. I don't know how but it needs addressing. Not just for Texas or Louisiana but all states.
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