German Shepherd dog

Can you put them in crates so they don't actually see you leaving?  A bark collar may work, but if you have a crazy drive dog he may just bark right through it and scream even more!

Jager likes to bark like he is going to kill someone when I leave the car, just when I leave, not when I walk up, but I think he wants me to know he is not happy I am leaving him in the car.  I tried a bark collar, that just made things worse.  Seemed like if he touched the side of the crate with it, it shocked him!

I did end up putting an E-collar on him and I think he was able to relate to that much better since I would "NO" and press the button at the same time.  Only problem is, he knows when its on.  Doesnt necessarily have to be live, but if that collar is on in the car, he is pretty quite, if not he is a bit over the top at times!  I do not use the collar to train him on anything else at this point, he is still a bit young.

And to answer your question about the collar working from outside to inside, YES it will.  But if you have not ever used a collar, you may want to try just crating them first.  Most work from a distance of at least 10o yards

I would never leave multiple dogs alone in the house unattended anyway, that is asking for trouble ESPECIALLY if you are already seeing jealous behavior, one little snippet could turn into a several thousand dollar vet bill, or worse a dead dog.

  My dogs live together, and play together anytime that I am home, but if I am not home they are in their own kennels.  Well actually Sasha gets to stay in the house, now that she is 4 and a half I turst her in the house.  These two have gotten into scuffles when I am home where I really had to get on them and had I not been here, I am not sure the outcome would have been good.  Just like young kids sometimes a little rough house can turn into someone getting a bit more pissed off and then there is a fight.

Good luck ~Kari

I hate to say this, but this is exactly what happens when one does not have proper facilities for the number of dogs one has. As well, if one has little or no experience in setting limits clearly, then yes, this is what happens. Using e-collars etc., may or may not help. It will cause stress and that will, in itself, likely cause more trouble. Whatever you do, yes, consistency as noted in the post above is absolutely critical. But the real issue here is likely too many dogs for one to handle.

 I have many, many GSDs here, as well as boarded dogs. Everyone who comes here tells me it is the most quiet kennel they have ever been at. It takes consistency and discipline and training AND proper exercise and facilities......

I sleep 6 inches away from the indoor kennel.....believe me, there better not be any screaming GSDs or barking in there....but then, I know how to deal with the dogs.

Hodie,

So your advise to her with all of your knowledge and experience is What ?

Your saying be consistant and discipline, but how?  with what technique do you use? 

I to expect my dogs to be quiet while I sleep, it is manditory, but then again, she is not asking for suggestions on that particular problem.   

In fact , she is specifically asking how to deal with a Screaming dog , while she is taking another out to Exercise, and go potty or whatever.   It seems to me,  as you have stated so many times, that this is something you have a ton of experience with , yet you did not offer any real tangable type of advise.

IF I  were to read through the lines of what you wrote earlier,  I would have taken it to mean , she shouldn't have her dogs???   Or that because she isn't experienced enough, she can not deal with this problem correctly ??? 

How does someone get knowlegde and experience, with out Experiencing ???  Oh, you might ask questions in hope that some people that have knowledge in an area you don't ,  will share with you, their Experience, knowlege,and techniques. 

I offered mine, now it is completely up to her, if she chooses to use it or not.  Either way, it is her journey of discovery.

Maybe you could share some advise on how your kennel is kept so quiet, and how to go about doing it.  ???

My post is not intended to start any type of conflict , rather , I do hope you will share your Experience and knowledge, that this forum so needs.

Thanks for reading 

I am not sure what to do with so many misbehaving in their crates in one room...I have as many, but not the problems.  When I have one dog or two dogs who are an issue, a pinch collar with a lead that goes out the crate door works well.  Dog barks, "HUSH!"  yank yank.  It works miracles with tough screamers, and they can't scream through it like they can with a bark collar.  You have to be very consistent for awhile, but it starts clearing up very quickly. 

The problem is, if you have a really tough screamer, they will quit screaming and start destroying their crate.  These kind usually only get better with quite a bit of exercise to help them settle down better.  Throwing the ball in a game of fetch can really wear a dog out, especially if you have a nice hill that they have to run back up.  Fifteen minutes of running the hill quiets a dog very well and makes ME feel better too.

Veronica 

It is a disciplinary problem and should be severly disciplined at the moment the screaming started...

I have three that were bad bad bad...I just got shown this year how to correct it and I has to be quick and thorough and when you finish  ,,,they will scream no more..

I assume you're keeping all 5 dogs inside the house in crates and this behavior is happening when you take a dog out while the other's are left behind?

If so, have you considered kennels outside for each dog?  It's no guarantee to work but with 5 dogs it'd probably help your sanity. lol 
 

I have 3 GSD's, my younger male is an impulsive barker that can get on my last friggin nerve at times. In the beginning I didn't know how to deal with him without my neighbor's really losing their patience with my dogs so I resorted to a bark collar and after expressing my issue to my trainer he was sympathetic that I was trying to be courteous to my neighbors but felt I could correct this behavior without relying on the collar.  So with a lot of patience and more obedience I was able to get my point across to him that No means NO, it's not up for discussion, it's not IF you feel like it, it means STOP IT! lol 

So now if he tries to act the fool in the kennel and start barking like an annoying idiot while I'm working with one of the other dogs I yell No sternly and he understands that's enough, he'd better stop it or we're gonna have an up close and personal reminder session that NO means NO.  I was consistant as Hodie stated is important and now all the dogs know that they will each get their turn to play or train one on one with me while the other's are in the kennel.

Worse comes to worse you can always resort to an e collar...many folks use them and if used properly they are very effective. 

Thank you for your opinions, but my dogs are family members....1 puppy is still available for placement to the right home, but the others are not negotiable. Carl owns Kali & Ani, I own Beckett & Ansgar, & Stitch is still looking for his 'forever' home. They all must follow the rules, which means obedience. They are all obedient, they are all worked with every day, we are all happy, our neighbors, (at least our next door neighbors), are saints,(LOL!)---I just need advice on correcting this 1 behaviour, thank you. Aside from that, we really have no issues.If you've followed the 'saga', you understand where I'm coming from....this particular breeding will not be repeated, (Kali has her appt with the vet this month), but these pups are gorgeous, both in body & spirit, & I am totally committed to them. (And, yes, maybe about to BE committed, as well! LOL!) 4 of our babies went to wonderful homes, I keep in touch with the owners, & I haven't heard a bad word yet. So, thanks for the input, but Beckett is loved & we'll figure this out.....I especially like the air horn idea! jackie harris

Not sure what your set up is but could you try putting the dog to be worked with outside in the yard and bring the others to there crates (then they don't see the one all excited cuz it gets to go), then they can't see you or your body language saying that you are going out? If the dog being trained or played with or whatever, barks it may blow the whole idea, as the others will know whatsup! We have a small park in our town about a mile and a half from where I live. It is flat and not many distractions, the river runs just below too. Often I just take one or two with me there, then when we're done we go down to the river to cool off. It works for me anyway. I hear you when you say its hard to correct when your not right there....