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coat still not looking good....help (14 replies)

coat still not looking good....help
by kool on 10 June 2008 - 20:06
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hi all,

  my gal is now 12mos old and coming out better these days.

i finished almost 3bags of royal canine already with hokamix and vertex mixing together and salmon oil been adding since last two months now.

before royal canin i used to feed Innova and then switch back due to loose stools. stools problem been solved these days very firm and less.

but coat never looks shiny. its just been a month now i started adding raw egg to her diet two egss each week with the shell.

on her shoulder coat looks little better but on the sides its really worst....but these days i can see her old hair falling off from the sides. she is long coat sheperd.

would it take time to grow her hair  around certain age? or do i need to change her food?

she doesn't shed much either.

she has little wavy hair close to her tail.

would be glad to hear .

thanks

 


coat still not looking good....help
by beepy on 10 June 2008 - 20:06
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When was her last season?  I have found that generally 6 to 8 weeks before a season they start to moult and sometimes they look scurfy, dull coated and just down, but once that is done is usually comes back looking much better.

I have a bitch who's coat hasnt been that great but since having a season which has just finished her coat is much improved, both in length (a long coat - but not overly long) and in quality.  She is on a complete feed, supplemented with tripe, eggs and occasionally yogurt.

Its not only me who thinks she looks good but she was commented on by someone who doesnt really like GSD's and they said what a fab shiny healthy looking coat she has.

Another thing that can help a coat is the addition of vegetable oil to her diet - just the regular stuff you get at the store for cooking with.


coat still not looking good....help
by Trailrider on 10 June 2008 - 20:06


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kool it sounds like she is blowing her coat and it is old dead hair coming out so it won't be shiny. Give her a good brushing daily or a few times a week to help get it all out. When her new coat comes in it should be better, it sounds like your feeding alright.


coat still not looking good....help
by kool on 10 June 2008 - 20:06
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her season was around March.

yes i do add yogurt at least three times a week.

vegetable oil any cooking oil (olive oil, corn oil) how much should i add?

thanks much.


coat still not looking good....help
by von Hayden Sheps on 10 June 2008 - 22:06


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My personal advise would be.......... Give her a good bath and a deep conditioning. Let her fully dry for a day. Then, brush her as much as you can with a furminator. Even though you don't see hair coming off (most long coats don't shed near as bad as a stock coat dog) the furminator will take out any loose or matted hair.
 
I'd begin supplementing with Fish Oil (7 days a weeks); Cod Liver Oil (2 days a week); Wheat Germ Oil (2 days a week); Flaxseed oil (3 times a week); Salmon Oil (2 days a week) in addition to a multivitamin if she isn't on one already. Vetraceuticals would be my choice!!
 
However, I would never recommend any sort of cooking oils as a supplement for your k9 companion!!!
 
There are additional supplements you can give, however I think you'd see a vast improvement within weeks of supplementing with the above vitamins.  I would keep with the egg at least 2-3 a week in addition to yogurt 2-3 a week.
 
You can find all the above vitamins at a pharmacy, vitamin shoppe, walmart, etc.
 
 

coat still not looking good....help
by kool on 10 June 2008 - 22:06
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yes indeed i did her bath last weekend and been brushing two days continuously with rake and brush and coming a lot.

when you provide those supplements (fish oils) what would be the recommendation about mg. i always take 1000mg fish oil. i can give that one right?

how about others?

 

thanks

 


coat still not looking good....help
by Pam Powers on 10 June 2008 - 22:06
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FYI, some longcoats don't have an undercoat, hence, it is not considered an acceptable stock coat for showing. Just thought I'd throw that in, you might want to make sure.  It would make a difference in all this. Von Leistung


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by yellowrose of Texas on 10 June 2008 - 23:06


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Never add cooking oil to a dogs menu.....not a proper fat source....ur feeding correctly now...keep it as you have it...

Brush you dog more and use conditioner or buy the   Bath oil for dogs at Petsmart .  It is a spray, fro lanoling and keeps the dog fresh between baths and has good ingredients in it...

It takes time..This is a bad time of the year and especially since she just came out of her season...It doesnt get solved overnight.

Keep brushing.,  one tip instead of bathing is the spray and also .   Use a laundry towel, the one you throw in dryer.  Just rub down her back and her legs to freshen instead of bathing....SO she wont get dryer than she is....Raw meat has enough vit c and helps get the skin and coat what it needs.

Sounds like the hokamix, which I am not familiar with, is a supplement instead of raw meat.????


coat still not looking good....help
by kool on 10 June 2008 - 23:06
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which brand is good regarding bath oil? i never used those or conditioner.

i just shampoo her deep cleaning and wipe and brush the other day that's all.

would bath oil makes a difference, and how often?

no Hokamix is herbal mix and has lots of herbals in it. someone recommended me from here and i've been using for the last six months when she was 6mos old.

 

thanks


coat still not looking good....help
by beepy on 10 June 2008 - 23:06
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I use standard vegetable oil or sunflower oil - about 3 tablespoons to a bowl of kibble.  I started using it after a bitch had major stomach surgery and it left her coat, nails pretty much everything looking very poor and on the advice of my vet who specialises in stomach problems in dogs.  I have now being doing this for over 15 years and have found others who use standard oils for both dogs and horses with absolutely no problems. We do not however use processed or altered oils only those found naturally.  We have often found that they also prefer the cheaper oils as they have a milder flavour and its soo much easier than trying to get capsules into them.

Their coat often reflects themselves in much the way that hair and skin in humans can be affected by their own wellbeing, I have also found that my girl's coat is better on a wheat/gluten free diet.


coat still not looking good....help
by yellowrose of Texas on 11 June 2008 - 02:06


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Extra virgin olive oil is the gold oil for us and our dogs..  I will post a link...it is also a pain inhibitor...

Heres one link not the olive oil one but a good read

:http://www.k9power.com/omega_dog.php

 

http://shop.newsmax.com/shop/index.cfm?page=products&productid=580&s=al&promo_code=63B4-1

 

 


coat still not looking good....help
by yellowrose of Texas on 11 June 2008 - 02:06


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Extra virgin olive oil is the gold oil for us and our dogs..  I will post a link...it is also a pain inhibitor...

Heres one link not the olive oil one but a good read

:http://www.k9power.com/omega_dog.php

 

http://shop.newsmax.com/shop/index.cfm?page=products&productid=580&s=al&promo_code=63B4-1

 

 


coat still not looking good....help
by yellowrose of Texas on 11 June 2008 - 09:06


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Kool:   The brand is  DVM    at Petsmart....and order from    www.revivalanimal.com ....

Bath Oil   Essential Fatty Acids        white bottle with green wide stripe on front..

This is a spray on    brush into the hair....it is also used as a rinse..It is a coat conditioner...I use it as a spray on because it smells good and is a hypoallergenic solution.   Shake well and spray

As a rinse , add  5 capfulls to a gallon of non chlorine water and pour into dogs coat....massage into and wipe dry with towel.   May be used daily.

This company also makes a  non soap shampoo also...which doesnt dry the dog out.

 

On side front of bottle you will find the lettering      efa  HyLyt    brand id....

It is like the Lambert Kay spray I used for years on my cockers with lanolin in it ...smells good and freshes a dog up...and moisturizes the dogs coat...  I also put extra virgin olive oil on my dogs muzzles and on their ears.....Olive oil is the gold oil and is a remarkable healer and people use it on bald heads, elbows and cracked feet to heal them....all natural and no chemicals.


coat still not looking good....help
by kool on 12 June 2008 - 18:06
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thank you all for providing me great info. thanks yellowroseoftexas for sharing. thanks

coat still not looking good....help
by uvw on 13 June 2008 - 02:06


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 what kind of brush do you use?

sometimes you have to switch up the type of oil you're giving.  you can do a month or two (or however long a bottle lasts) of salmon oil, then switch to sardine oil, and maybe cod liver oil.  sometimes they build up a tolerance to certain oils if you give them too much, just like food, so if you rotate they tend to do well.

i also sometimes use extra virgin olive oil, coconut oil (organic fermented), and organic ocean kelp

sometimes (not always) the people supplements don't work (fish oil)....by the time they get to the supermarket shelves the oil has already gone bad.  that's why you may have that fishy taste in your mouth for half a day after you take them.











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