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GETTING MY IMPORT GERMANY SHEPHERD AKC REG (15 replies)

GETTING MY IMPORT GERMANY SHEPHERD AKC REG
by boxer247 on 15 May 2008 - 03:05
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CAN ANYONE HELP ME ,I NEED TO KNOW WERE TO PUT MY NAME ON MY IMPORTS PAPERS? HELP PLEASE !!!


GETTING MY IMPORT GERMANY SHEPHERD AKC REG
by boxer247 on 15 May 2008 - 03:05
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I HAVE HIS PASS PORT AND HIS SV,IN FACT I HAVE ALL HIS GERMAN PAPERS.


GETTING MY IMPORT GERMANY SHEPHERD AKC REG
by hodie on 15 May 2008 - 03:05
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 Boxer,

First of all, did you get a paper called a "Bescheinigung"? This is a document than indicates that the dog was sold to you. you cannot register the dog with AKC without this paper.

Secondly, do you have the pink paper that says "Ahnentafel" on it at the top? On that pink paper, at the back page, the previous owner/breeder should have already signed that he/she sold the dog. Sometimes they fill in the new owner information, but sometimes they do not and you have to do it.

Start by answering these questions and we can probably help you, assuming all the paperwork is in order.


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by AKVeronica60 on 15 May 2008 - 03:05


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Boxer, I sent you two PMs, both on how the signature page of the registration looks, and also my webpage with addresses, email address, and phone numbers of the person and departments in the SV to both get your AKC Bescheinigung and all the steps for getting your AKC registration.  Good luck, Veronica


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by Two Moons on 15 May 2008 - 04:05


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If you do not register your dog with AKC and later on you breed to an AKC dog with your SV registered dog what is involved if you want the pups to have AKC registration?


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by Two Moons on 15 May 2008 - 04:05


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Is it easier just to change registry now?   


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by rockinrkranch on 15 May 2008 - 06:05


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I also have an import female I need to register with AKC. I did not import her, but bought her from the person who did. I have her pink papers. Is there something else I need?


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by AKVeronica60 on 15 May 2008 - 07:05


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Go to www.akc.org, go to registration---> downloadable forms---> foreign dog registration form

Two Moons, you will have to register the bitch with the AKC, then when you have your AKC registration number, you have to send in a DNA kit, and all this has to be done before you can register the litter with the AKC.  Sometimes the DNA part takes a long while to come back to you...call often so that you can get the number and go ahead to register the litter before the DNA certificate comes back to you.  They WON'T call you.  If your bitch were already bred, your litter would likely be on the ground and getting ready to wean before all of your paperwork is finished, if not already gone on to new homes with impatiently waiting owners. 

Rockinkranch, if the first person did not register the bitch, but he has signed the SV papers, then you are the "second US owner" according to the AKC Foreign Dog Registration application.  It is possible that you could put the bitch directly into your own name, bypassing the need to fill out the second US owner part, IF the first US owner did not sign the SV papers.   If they did sign the papers, you have to fill out the second US owner part of the AKC Foreign Dog Registration.  I am not sure if you have to do a transfer as well, I have never had to do the second owner part, BUT, when you download the Foreign Dog Registration application, it comes with comprehensive instructions. 

Here on my webpage, on # 7and #8 entries, is the entire sequence of steps you need to take to get a Beschienigung and to get your foreign dog registered with the AKC, complete with mail address, name of the person in charge, email address, and phone number for that department at the SV:   http://www.worthykennels.com/Internetdogbuying.html

I think that the AKC no longer requires pictures of both sides of the dog, just one.  That was what was on the most recent AKC foreign dog registration application instructions on for the application I sent in, but I sent both sides anyway. 

I hope that helped.

Veronica


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by Two Moons on 15 May 2008 - 16:05


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Thanks Veronica,

But what if one decides not to change sv to akc?    What about breeding sv to akc?    How would the litter be registered?

I've seen this on pedigree's  SV X AKC = AKC offspring.     Its sounds like a lot of trouble.  I was just curious as to if I had to switch over the registration from the SV on my pup.


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by AKVeronica60 on 15 May 2008 - 18:05


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Hi Two Moons,

I am not sure I understand you correctly. 

If you want to keep the bitch registered with the SV though she resides in the USA, but breed to an AKC registered dog in the USA, I am not sure how that is done.  It seems a tangled thing to deal with.  I always thought that, if it was born in the USA, it had to be registered with the AKC.  However, other members of this forum said that is not so in a discussion on this topic more than a year ago.  Sorry, I cannot help you there.

If the sire resides outside the USA, but the bitch was imported pregnant, you need the Breeding Certificate from the breeder, a copy of the pedigree of the sire, and you will need to do a Special Litter Registration application when the sire of the litter resides outside the USA.  Go to downloadable forms, and download Special Litter Registration application and it also has comprehensive instructions that will help you figure out what you need to do. 

Good luck, Veronica


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by Two Moons on 16 May 2008 - 02:05


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The male was born in germany and is in the usa now with german sv papers.  I haven't changed his registration yet and wondered if I even had to in order to be able to breed him to an AKC bitch here and register the puppy's AKC.

I'll probably give AKC a call and see.   I'll take the path of least resistance.

 


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by katjo74 on 16 May 2008 - 03:05


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Two moons: If a bitch is imported bred/PREGNANT, then she would have to be AKC registered and DNAed before her pups would be AKC registerable, but the SIRE would NOT need AKC registered since he's not here in the US. Thus SV+AKC= AKC pups. Special stud registry (breed certificate like mentioned by Veronica)and copy of the stud's German SV paperwork & scorebook if he's titled all comes with such situations(should be included with the paperwork for a bred female), so additional paperwork has to be had in order AKC to register an imported female's litter. It's a little complicated to explain. I have handled the paperwork for AKC registering 1 pregnant imported female's litter, so this is all accurate info.

If both parents reside here in the US and the litter is conceived on American soil, then yes, you need AKC registration papers & DNA profile (DNA profile is required for all foreign dogs-effective March 2006 with the AKC) for both parents to register a litter with the AKC.

Yes, 2 Moons-if you plan on breeding him, you need to get him transferred into YOUR name with the German SV on his papers, recieve your bescheinigung (which is a little letter on German SV letterhead stating your dog with German SV# ---- by breeder ----- with DOB ----- is officially registered in YOUR name with the German SV), then apply for AKC foreign dog registration, then DNA profile him. I've done this start to finish and it takes about 3-4 months from sending to the German SV in Germany to get a GSD transferred into my name with the German SV to getting my dog's AKC papers processed and sent to me from the AKC to getting a DNA profile submitted and processed. It's time consuming, so if you have breeding plans, it's better to start it now rather than waiting until a female is bred and expecting his pups, then start.


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by Two Moons on 16 May 2008 - 03:05


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The paperwork is already done in my name with the SV on the male.  

I have seen sire's with SV number's on pedigree's bred to AKC registered dam's and the offspring having AKC registration numbers and thats what I was wondering about.

Still I will call AKC and find out from them I guess whats all involved.  The pup's only 5 months old so I have plenty of time to figure it out I guess.


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by yellowrose of Texas on 16 May 2008 - 04:05


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Two Moons:   The sv number shown on Akc pedigrees to an aKC FEMALE  just didnt show an akc number because it shows that first the dog was imported and akc number just wasnt brought forward on the paperwork...If male is here and bred here to an AKC registered female, import or not, you cannot register the pups.

If you dont transfer over now, and you breed , with it like it is now, still in only SV,, you will have a  mess to unravel with AKC. and the owners of the pups, or you will have to keep them until you get all parents with proper papers.    iT REALLY IS NOT MUCH HASSLE.   Zico was only about  two months to get his papers thru and Mahon even had to run an trace on his titles to see what was really correct as their was an error on some of the papers...

He talked directly to the terrifically nice lady at the AKC SV office in Germany and she was very thorough in her explanation as to what he had to do...you cant just get info from Germany with out certified and notorized paperwork.

Ought to be that way here with AKC and we wouldnt have so many crooked paper work done by byb.

All of my paperwork shows the SV number first and not the akc numbers. If you want akc numbers published on paperwork , you have to put it there.


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by Two Moons on 16 May 2008 - 12:05


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Thanks rose.


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by boxer247 on 16 May 2008 - 16:05
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I DON'T HAVE THE Bescheinigung" BUT I DO HAVE THE PINK PAPER THAT SAY'S AHNENTAFEL,I NEED TO KNOW WERE MY NAME GOES AS OWENER.












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