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by rockinrkranch on 08 May 2008 - 05:05


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Has anyone ever heard of using Tums when a bitch is whelping?? Another breeder told me about this, but I had never heard of it before. She said the calcium in the Tums causes contractions, and that it's milder and much safer than oxytocin.


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by Two Moons on 08 May 2008 - 05:05


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rockin,

please dont give your dog tums , jesus!


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by rockinrkranch on 08 May 2008 - 05:05


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I am not going to give my dog Tums! I would never do anything without talking to my vet or MANY other experienced breeders. I just heard it, thought it was strange, and wondered if it was true. I hear weird things like this all the time...seems everyone has their own ideas of what works and what doesn't. Just wondered if there was any truth to it.


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by Sunsilver on 08 May 2008 - 05:05


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There is NO similarity between oxytocin, a hormone that causes uterine contractions, and Tums, which are mainly calcium! About the only thing the Tums will do will give your bitch a little extra calcium, which may help with milk production.

What a load of horse poop! 


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by Two Moons on 08 May 2008 - 05:05


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Sorry rockin,

Nevermind the attitude.     I believe in letting nature have its way with most things, especially animals giving birth.

Its just me.     Yeah it is a load of horse poop.

later.


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by Sunsilver on 08 May 2008 - 05:05


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BTW, when I suffered from monthly cramps in my 20's, I was told taking calcium tablets would help ease them. That was a bunch of horse poop, too! (And it also contradicts what you were told...easing uterine cramps/contractions, rather than causing them.)

Calcium and potassium ions DO play an important role in muscle contractions. That's probably why somebody thought taking Tums might help...


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by mygsddogs on 08 May 2008 - 05:05
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why do most vets recommend giving calcium to whelping bitchs?


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by Sunsilver on 08 May 2008 - 12:05


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I'm not sure, but it could be to prevent milk fever, which I believe is due to a depletion of calcium in the blood, once the bitche's milk comes in.

No time to check on this right now, though.


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by oso on 08 May 2008 - 14:05
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I have heard and/or read that intravenous calcium injections can help with contractions in the case of uterrine inertia, and may be safer than oxytocin. I do not have any drect experience though.

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by Blitzen on 08 May 2008 - 14:05
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Yes, I have heard of that. the extra calcium is supposed to help.


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by DKiah on 08 May 2008 - 16:05
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Gotta be careful loading the calcium, but I've always used oxytocin and never had a problem.. its been about 25 years now... why the worry??

I only use it when things are starting to drag ( in small doses and they work) and before anybody gets ready to lock and load, because the longer it takes the more tired mom gets and  its easier to lose babies that way.. ...

 

However, have never heard the Tums thing.. i have taken Tums during  an all night puppy birth because I get heartburn but not to help the mom!

Wonder how a woman during childbirth would react to being offered a Tums???? Someone could get hurt!! LOL!


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by Deal With It on 08 May 2008 - 19:05
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When my boy was a puppy he was a little down on his front paws. A friend (who has been a breeder for years) told me to give him 1 Tums a day and it would help with the problem.  At 5 yr old he stands fine and has never had a problem.  I still give him a flavored Tums every now and then.











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