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Classified: puppies -father is Austrian Bundessieger
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bark collars (18 replies)
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i used the search option and located a number of threads that discussed bark collars, but i did not find a discussion on brands used. i am not interested in lectures on whether or not to use them. i am interested in hearing what brands are preferred and what options are a neccessity......rechargeable, water proof, etc. also, i would be interested in hearing about the ones that are not worth wasting money on. it sounds like the auto reset models seem to be very effective.
thanks,
pjp |
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try training your dog instead of using collars they don't work nearly as well as good old time and effort |
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comments such as the above are not helpful. as i said, i am not looking for lectures. i have already evaluated my position and am looking for recommendations for brands and features.
pjp |
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that is my recomendation i have dealt with alot of people who have used them and they dont sound all that good.
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I use a citronella bark collar on Blitz and it works great for him. However, it doesn't work for a lot of dogs and you might need an electronic collar instead. Maybe you could borrow a citronella collar and try it on your dog before buying one? May I asked where you live? I currenty have an extra and would be happy to loan it to you. I don't know the brand of the citronella collar I bought, but would be happy to look it up if you're interested. Have never owned an electronic anti-bark collar, so can't recommend a specific brand. However, I would buy one if needed. |
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I've used the electronic bark collars in the past to help teach the dog when it's not acceptable to bark. I only had to resort to using them for a short time maybe a few weeks and only putting it on the dog when this unwanted behavior was happening. I've seen the collars that have the spray mist and asked people about them but I was told they don't work on a lot of dogs. The one I had to use a bark collar on was my young male when he was about 7 mo old and I don't think the spray kind would have worked on him as nothing really phases this boy. The electronic collar was much more effective and now we don't need it at all anymore.
If the collars are used as a training tool and not a constant crutch I see no problem using them. I know trainers who have had to resort to them as a training aid. |
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I have the Tri-Tonics bark collar and it has worked well for me. Now I just have to walk out of the house with it and everyone shuts up. I don't think I've actually put it on a dog in 6 months or so. I have cranky neighbors so it's come in very handy and saved me alot of grief. |
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I recently purchased a Dogtra bark collar and was not impressed at all. The new collars( both Dogtra and Tritronics)have the vibration sensor directly behind the unit. Thats nice because the size of the collar is smaller. But you can not really move it around on the dog's neck. So you can get skin irritation from the contact points with prolonged use.
My old Tri-tronics one had the vibration sensor on the side of the collar. This way, you could move the collar up and down on the dogs neck or reverse sides. You can't do that with the new collars. My malinios was a bad barker and I had a bitchy neighbor so she had to wear it for long periods of time. The ability to change the contact point location made it alot more comfortable for her.
The other thing I did not like about the Dogtra was the length of the contact points. They were too long. They are also pretty large in diameter. My dog has a very thick undercoat so the contact points often wouldn't make complete contact. That is not good. Even when I sheared her coat a bit. What ended up happening was the collar was ether on too tight and really uncomfortable for the dog or it wasn't tight enough to make contact leaving the collar inconsistant and/or ineffective. With that said, you can buy shorter contact points. Additionally, the charger seems like a good idea, but for me was a pain in the ass. The dial to change intensity was not the easiest thing to work either.
I have not seen the newest Tri-Tronics. I guess they have a push button to change the intensity and a bark odometer. The odometer would come in really handy if you have a difficult neighbor. I still don't like the sensor being directly behind the unit allowing for no changing of position. I would get the Tri-tronics if I had to do it again.
What ever collar you choose just make sure you are consistant with it's application and ensure it is on the dog correctly. |
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I would spend the money on a good one the lesser brands don't work as well as the tri tronics ( altho I don't have the newer one)
Don't get those untrasonic bark controllers... did'nt phase the barking dog and annoyed the non barking dogs and the Parrot
If you have a really drivey dog I would expect the same effect from the citronella collars
There are some dogs that are just barkers and even with a bark collar they will still bark BUT the bark collar will reduce the problem somewhat. I think the problem is worse when ever something puts them into drive. (such as a training days My old girl will go nuts if she sees a tracking line or a sleeve) So you may want to look at anything that triggers the behavior and see if you could alter them (such as a privacy fence or well placed bushes)
Training is important as well
best of luck Jeff
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Tri Tronics all the way............They are great............They will stop the dog from Barking.
Rodd |
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thanks, folks. i was leaning toward tri tronics and am glad to hear that they work.
pjp |
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I know you didn't ask about this but I wanted to throw it out there. There is a small unit that looks like the old transistor radios (did that date me or what?) and when the dog barks it lets out an ear piercing shriek. I was going to get a bark collar for when my one year old is in the kennel which is when he does the nuisance barking. It has worked really well.
I can fake him out by putting in the same place when it's on or off. I started out with it on all the time and then sometimes off sometimes on. Now he rarely barks at all in the kennel. The drawbacks are that they are geographically specific as I doubt they'd work for more than a couple hundred feet away and they have to be kept dry.
I have a friend who has had luck with the citronella collars for the most part. And I've talked to people who use the Tri Tronics collars and they say Tri Tronics are the most durable. |
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Couldn't afford the Tri-tronics (the bark odometer would be neat) but I have had good luck with the Innotek no bark collar. (or as I like to call it the collar of blessed silence)
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Why are these dogs barking so much are they bored or not enough excercise or something or some one bothering them or what?.these things do not work on every dog. |
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Some dogs are just noisier than others. One of mine hardly ever barks and when he does you know something is wrong. I've got another that yodeles just for living. She barks with joy when she goes for a walk and when she comes back, when you let her in, and when you let her out.
I also have one who barks at my neigbours cat who insists on sitting just out of reach for hours on end - something that is quite natural for a dog but can be extremely irritating. I am lucky as I have a very high powered water pistol which gets her, however that doesnt work if Im out.
So please dont assume all dogs bark through bordem.
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There is always a reason why a dog would bark some might be mentally not all there but always areason. |
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I have used both Dogstra and Tri Tronics bark collars. My bitch only had to have the collar on, not even turned on, and she kept quiet...unless there was really something to bark about--NOT squirrels taunting her, teenagers next door trhowing stuff over the fence, etc.
I use the TriTronics because I like the idea of an odometer. I had rotten neighbors who complained about the barking dogs. So, I wanted the odometer to document how much barking was actually going on, as other neighbors told me that they did not hear an excessive amount of barking.
Fortunately for me, the rotten neighbors made one of their bogus calls to complain about barking dogs when the dogs were not there!! They were boarded for a week because I was out of town. Animal control was in my driveway because of the complaints and the idiots made another call right then. Well... the animal control guy knew he heard nothing. He went into the backyard, and saw that there were no dogs. He called these idiots and asked about the barking. They told him that the dogs were still barking and had been non-stop for hours. The result: the rotten neighbors were issued a letter advising them that making false charges were criminal acts and that Animal Control viewed the issue as a "people problem" and they needed to cease and desist!! I have not heard a word since. But, I kept a log of the times the odometer was activated for several months, just in case. I don't care who you are, a gsd barking 2-8 times a day does not constitute a problem.  |
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update^^^
i finally decided on tri tronics rechargeable. i bought 2 of them, thinking i would try them on my 2 worst barkers and if i needed more i would get them. i will be buying more of them. they work. they are a god-send. not only do they keep the dogs quiet, but they also help to cut down on the aggression caused by passing in front of each other's crates and kennels.
no, the dogs won't be wearing them all the time. no, i won't allow them to burrow into the skin. no, i won't abuse the dogs with overuse. i was beginning to worry that my neighbors my do something awful to my dogs if we didn't establish some quiet around here. yelling doesn't work - besides that we can't be here 24/7 to yell at them.
also, it seems that just reducing the number of barking dogs keeps all of them quieter. they tend to keep each other barking. so far, i'm pretty impressed. i'm not wild about using electronics on dogs, but i don't want to come home to find they have been poisoned either.
pjp |
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I use the Dogtra YS-300 on all of them. They advertise for the medium to small breeds but have worked great on our drivy bitches, Once they figured the collar out, no setting above about 2 or 3. Not overly tight and haven't had neck sores for months. The YS-500 were too heavy and I think that is part of why the necks were getting sores. |
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