German Shepherd dog

GSD, 17 mos. old. Gray sable with red markings, now estimated to be approx. 80 lbs., nearly 26" at withers. Black "pencil marks" on toes, normal thick stock hair coat. Large head, tractible disposition.

Rumored to have been dumped in a shelter in the greater Allentown or NJ areas, perhpas further rather than returned to breeder, perhaps as long ago as Dec. '07. Micro-chip info never submitted to AVID, no record of inquiries on ID/origination of m-chip purchase to date.

Avid Euro Microchip #146346095A   Tattoo Rt Ear: FG06B4 (green ink)

Next process will be to contact every shelter for 200 miles, but no way to know if the "shelter" is even legit, let alone which one, or even if the dog is still alive. Please contact me at wkgdogs@gmail.com with any info.

Thanks, SS

Sorry, and are there any pictures of the dog?

I thought shelters automatically do a scan for chips. I assumed that, anyway. What the hell is the point of having a microchip is it's not going to be looked for at a place where lost animals end up???

I hope you find the dog, I would be crazy if one of mine disappeared.

No recent pix, but here is a picture of his full brother, Jackie's dog Beckett, taken last summer. I know Jackie won't mind my posting it. The dog in question probably has a bit thicker coat, maybe a broader head, even more bone. Obviously I can't mention any names at this point, court proceedings yet to be initiated. We are told that a young (now approx.. same age) male Rottie was also dumped. Two "OLD" dogs PTS. If they were the two I knew, one of which I even offered to re-home last year when I was taking care of him, was a very nice male GSD, lonely but in excellent health, about 6-7 yrs. old. the other would likely have been a Rottie female, appros. 5 years old, with a nasty disposition. I am understandably upset.

I have had no end of problems with the "buyer" of the puppy. Let's just hope that person never owns another dog. Please don't ask for names or online history that might facilitate identification of the owner in question.

Thanks all. I know this search is probably futile, but I have to try, for the welfareof the dog and my own peaceof mind, if there is any to be had.

SS

I understand your situation Shelley.

I know my vet would be more inclined to spot a dog by a picture than looking into chips or tattoo's was what I was thinking.

At least a picture could spawn enough interest to check for a chip or tattoo.

good luck.

Shelley, I have only to say that my heart goes out to you and the dogs, and that I sincerely hope you can locate the dog!

Jo

GS Mom.- That was what they told me when I bought the pre-paid chips, but I have gotten a major runaround, directed to outsourced tracking company, trying to research whether any inquiries have been made. I have contacted several shelters, posted a Petfinder classified...  Maybe one of the shelters can track by the name of owner who surrendered the dogs, IF they weren't sent with someone else, (read: coward!) or a ficticious name was used, which I wouldn't doubt.  X your fingers...

SS

it's sad that we have a breeder who's done and is trying to do everything right by this dog and is having such a difficult time of it. we get all kinds of complaints on this board about breeders who don't give a rat's behind once they get paid for a dog and now we have just the opposite. apparently, for these buyers, doing the simple right thing was just too hard. shelley, i hope you find this dog and i hope the "owners" stick to goldfish or those little robot dogs.

I am truly sorry Shelley for this mess with your pup...but I have the same thing almost discovered day before yesterday..My nine month Cehli   is tied on a chain in a shackby the railroad track with an man who claimed to be a retired preacher and the house is in weeds , church delapodated and he told me he had a back yard and was buying a kennel for her tto be inside...He paid a pretty penny for her...her parents are ofa..and she is gorgeous and kennel trained and obedience. She is in weeds and I confronted him on Sunday....He just looked at me and I left his premises....I drove   120.00 miles to take him a new app..as he screwed up the first one and wouldnt mail it back..he wanted me to mail  him a new one and i said no way Hosea...and i went to this God forsaken  dump and now Im faced with a decision.....

In the front yard tied with another chain in a weed patch was another male german shepherd....I was in such shock,,,I guess Yellowrose may be in Jail by Friday of this week....so wish me luck...My pup will not stay there,,,I can guarantee that.

Is it ok to cross post the basic information?  I'm on several rescue lists that have folks that are in that general area.  One of them might have a lead.

By all means. Feel free to x-post the basics and my contact info.

Thanks,

SS

Shelley-did you click on the link above? Someone trying to mislead folks about the dog might not report the correct age ......he sure looks a lot like Beckett when you see the standing picture....jh

No leads yet, but maybe today. Meanwhile, I'll be contacting my attorney, who is already familiar with this deal and has been following the person in question's career as defendant in assorted other lawsuits lately, one actually having made our home town paper. Turns out the guy is just, plain bad news as far as we can determine. A simple con artist with a smooth tongue. He can recite scripture with the best of them, and does nearly constantly, which just makes the whole thing all the worse in my book. Bible in one hand, swell "deal" in the other. Maybe he can come up with some quasi-relevant scripture in court when the time comes. I'm thinking the judge will not be amused.

SS

Shelley,

I don't know how many of the rescue groups in that area you've contacted but a lady on one of my lists sent me this link.  The dog is listed as older but that usually just a quess on their part.  Here's the link

http://www.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=9948597

Melissa

I left a message with that rescue group, among others...just in case

Thanks,

SS

They do look for tats but it's hard to track down exactly who and where a dog was tattooed.   A true rescue group would definitely check for a chip.

If the dog isn't permanently registered with AKC, which this one was not as I was holding the reg. app. till balance paid, there would be no record with the AKC, but most of the rest of my pups are registered, tattoos on file. Theorhetically, the AKC could do a search and come up with the others, knowing who the breeder is. Not sure if they bother. Lesson learned. From now on I register the litter to myself  right off, then hand out transfer slips to buyers.

There is no perfect system as yet.  I hear there may be GPS-fitted microchips at reasonable cost in future, but not yet. Wouldn't it be nice to just make a phone call and get the exact coordinates of every m-chipped dog, forever?

I'm not giving up, but I know chances are pretty slim I will find my dog. It will be interesting to hear what kind of lies this jerk comes up with in court... and he WILL be in court a time or two, bet on it.  I don't know if there is a procedure in PA for aquiring & serving an "Emergency Writ of Possession" for return of a dog suspected in a bad situation like there is in CA, but my attorney is working on finding out what we can do. He likes dogs. He's 78 yr. old man, sharp as a tack with a full docket every day, who takes great pleasure in "Righting Wrongs"  pro bono... A  sweet teddy bear of a guy... with NO MERCY in cases like this. He knows his way around the civil and criminal court system. I trust he will advise me well.

SS

Also, you may be able to register the microchip number with AKC's companion animal finder service after the fact.  Go to AKC's website for information.

GOOD IDEA! I'll get right on that. Hope its not too late. Maybe they'll have record of an inquiry when I give them the numbers. Most of my pups ARE in that database. Wouldn't take a genius to scan the database and put it all together, but maybe someone recorded an inquiry and can go back and I can get them to check it out with a little push in the right direction.

Must go back out to train dogs now. I wish I could spend all day at this, but my other dogs need/deserve their time too.

SS

Shelley:   The man who has my female is a retired minister and his words to me last time I talked to him before showing up at his   shack by the railroad track.."   was   God Bless......

Kinda like the    Rev Wright   .........all  mouth.....what minister retired or active would live like that with two dogs tied on chains and no where to put them safely.....I havent gotten there yet  but I will let the male go when I get there...maybe he will run for the hills...I cant take him with me  but   I can turn this yeehoo in to the county..,.It is agaist the law in Texas to chain or tie out any dog for more thatn 4 hours and have to prove you have another mode of safely keeping the dog......so after I get my girl out of there    woe is he......

Hope you find your Bible verse shouting gurhru before I deal with mine.....It is funny how a dog can disappear caused by a sly soothsayer.....I hope this doesnt disappear...so Id better get on my broom and get going.......

Im getting too old for all this adventure.  People are so unpredictable today...

Best of luck to you Shelly...I'd be devastated. My contract requires the return of the dog to me before surrendering it to a shelter or rescue group but of course there is no guarantee that the buyer will follow through.

I would also recommend dropping off flyers at local groomers, boarding kennels, vet offices- its amazing where dogs can turn up sometimes. You may also want to take out a classified ad, maybe offer a small reward? Have you asked the "buyers" neighbors?

Nothing. No record of inquiries on the m-chip or tattoo in any database. Could take him to the kangaroo court, but it would cost me more than he owes me, he would never pay the judgement (too many outstanding judgments already in place?) and would never be required to show up in court, let alone explain how he "disposed" of the dog.

Welcome to PA. He got away with it, and doubtless knew he would. I hope he never crosses paths with me again.  (but he WILL, once again living right across the street after a long absence, but now sans dogs...) Ya'll might have to start a fund to bail my butt out of jail when/if the time comes. I'm gonna be awhile forgiving this thing.  He's just lucky its St. Peter at the gate instead of yours truly. :-O

SS

Still nothing on the dog. I do want to thank everyone who has helped, PM'd good suggestions. I spent a huge amount of my time last week searching, but do have to get back to normal life this week, can't devote so many hours as everything else around here will fall apart.

SS

I really hope the best for your situation, I had the same problem with a dog trainer name Ray Jeffers. To make a long story short we took him to court last year in January.  He was ordered to pay over $800 dollars and he still has not payed, with interest added he owe's us over $1000 dollars.

AND HE DOES A REALLY GREAT JOB AT LYING ABOUT IT...  from posting many adds many people have come forth and stated that their dogs were malnourished in his care and one dog died in his care and he didn't have the audacity to tell the owners, they were told by the vet.  You are not alone, I really hope everything turns out fine, believe me, I know exactly how you feel!!!

I have taken two people to court for unpaid boarding fees - you file a complaint with the local district justice for the money you are owed, they deliver the summons to the person you are suing (by registered mail or in person by a sherriff) and you are given a court date.  The person has a chance to defend their reasons for not paying you in court.  If they don't show you win by default, and if they don't pay they will have a "sheriff's sale" of their belongings to equal what the final amount owed to you is.  I am in PA.  Go to your district justice and file a complaint.

molly

Shelley:    how are we gonna communicate if we are both in Jail.....I can see the headlines now???????

A redhead from Texas and a blond from PA>>>>>>>

The DA and DJ offices dont think this kind of thing is important....you ought to hear the excuses they gave me....They think we are just some kinda of    OFF the Wall woman who lost a dog..and someone didnt want to pay us for them.....yeah right...I ought to whip them with a rubber tube and tie them to the flagpole outside the courthouse and see if they feel anything..