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Hyalomma/Bontpoot Tick - HELP PSE!! (11 replies)

Hyalomma/Bontpoot Tick - HELP PSE!!
by Savana Fire on 21 April 2008 - 12:04
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Hi all GSD lovers...just had my second run in with this nasty tick - 1st one had to be incised and left a nasty scar/bare patch on my show bitch :(  Anyone got some hints on how to deal with them?? Noticed on my young pup this am but I think it has been there for about 10 days?? Thx


Hyalomma/Bontpoot Tick - HELP PSE!!
by DKiah on 21 April 2008 - 13:04
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I give up, what is it?? Even a search got me no results.. thought it must be some giant creature.... is this different than any normal tick here in the US.. where are you??

We normally use Frontline or K9 Advantix for our pest problems here and never have I had to have a tick surgically removed!! You just pull them off!!

How big is the thing?? i'm picturing something the size of a kitten, please clarify 


Hyalomma/Bontpoot Tick - HELP PSE!!
by hodie on 21 April 2008 - 14:04
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This is a tick species found in many parts of the world, normally feeding on cattle, birds etc. They are not found in the US. Like most tick species, they too carry diseases. Wherever you are, you must have some sort of tick preventative available. I suggest using it. Prevention is the best option here.

By the way, reading another one of your posts about PF in one of your young females whom you consider breeding stock, I hope like hell you don't breed that female.


Hyalomma/Bontpoot Tick - HELP PSE!!
by gagsd4 on 21 April 2008 - 15:04
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I know not the best of references always but.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyalomma

Also look under crimean congo hemorraghic fever.

Mary


Hyalomma/Bontpoot Tick - HELP PSE!!
by DKiah on 21 April 2008 - 21:04
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Wow, I learned something new today.. doesn't say how big they are..... thanks for the info though


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by hodie on 21 April 2008 - 23:04
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They are not much different in size than most ticks around the world. In other words, they are not monsters. And yes, they can carry CCHF and many other diseases too that are passed to humans and animals. 

As I write this, there is a posse in Texas riding the border looking for cattle herds afflicted with a type of tick that comes north from Mexico carrying a really nasty disease that causes serious fever and worse in cattle. In another area, they are worried about a disease seen only in wildebeests which is now affecting a herd of cattle because some exotic hunting ranch imported wildebeests from Africa.....We are such stupid humans to move all types of plants and animals all over the globe. Because of this, entire herds will end up being destroyed by agricultural officials order.

Best prevent tick bites, on you and your animals, where one lives. 


Hyalomma/Bontpoot Tick - HELP PSE!!
by tigermouse on 21 April 2008 - 23:04


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blimey hun this dog is a walking disaster!!!

fuse wire does the trick. and preventative measures .

ps how did you get on with the crate training?


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by Rezkat5 on 22 April 2008 - 01:04


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I read about the tick posse.  Kinda scary!

 

 


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by hodie on 22 April 2008 - 01:04
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 Rezkat5,

It is a serious, serious issue and this tick fever has the potential to spread and literally wipe out cattle herds.  The disease that has spread from the exotic ranch also has the same potential. People in our country are spoiled and do too often do not realize how fragile specific industries are, especially those that produce some food product. Just think for one moment if this gets out of control and most cattle ranches in Texas would be required to destroy their herds. Besides the economic losses to them, probably compensated by the government, the price of beef would skyrocket and, in fact, we could be more dependent on importation of beef.

This is one reason why it is ludicrous for some dog rescue groups to be allowed to bring in unwanted dogs and cats from other places, such as the Caribbean. It only serves to introduce diseases not previously endemic to our lands. Then we will begin to see dogs and cats here in the states becoming ill.


Hyalomma/Bontpoot Tick - HELP PSE!!
by Rezkat5 on 22 April 2008 - 01:04


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Thanks Hodie.

 

Definitely some scary stuff.  Even more reason, to hate ticks!  Lyme disease is the big one around here, but more and more, we are seeing Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever as well, and Erhlichia. 


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by Two Moons on 22 April 2008 - 05:04


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In my woods we have two kinds of dog ticks, texas and rocky mountain.  Dear ticks the size of a freckle, and what the locals call turkey lice the size of a pour in your skin.   The dogs and I have already been eaten up.   Frontline may kill them but it doesn't stop them from biting.   And I can't walk out of the yard without Permanon sprayed on my boots and pants.  All of which I'm sure isn't healthy for me or my dogs.      I'm thinking of moving because southern Indiana is seriously infested.

Maybe the arctic.


Hyalomma/Bontpoot Tick - HELP PSE!!
by Savana Fire on 24 April 2008 - 08:04
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Hi everyone....thx for all your replies and questions!!!  I must admit you gave me a good laugh!!!  I am very happy to tell you more about this nasty creature we have here in South Africa.  It is called a "Bontpoot" because it has striped legs - red body about the size of a garden pea but flat and is found in areas where there are cattle, sheep and goats, as well as antelopes and other hoofed wild animals.  No, the tick itself does not have to be removed surgically - ha ha ha - but what it does is cause necrosis of the skin around the bite - often this goes unnoticed until the area is quite large - I have seen bites of between 2cm and 14cm in diameter (the latter if they are not discovered quickly enough).

So the skin rots and gets pussy (not kitty, but full of pus) and often the dead skin has to be incised and the wound sown together.  What is nasty about these guys is that they hold on for dear life, so don't pull off as easily as your normal big fat blue ticks.  My experience is that you grip them hard and with a quick anti-clockwise pull should get them off without leaving the head behind. The are very agressive and mobile. The bite area/limb whatever is extremely painful and the dog will winch from the gentlest touch - usually a sure sign of a Hyalomma bite.

The wound must be treated as any other against infection - I keep wound clean, put on some Rapha (excellent South African product) and something like Betadine.  I also gave her some anti inflammatory/painkiller - now its just a matter of time and prayer that the hole doesnt get bigger.  I think we are over the worst as the dead skin has fallen off so should be no more necrosis.

I dip my dogs regularly, essential as I live in the bushveld, but have to change the treatment as they build up  resistance.  Frontline is great but very costly as I have a whole bunch of dogs.

Comment to the member who read about my other dog's PF problem - of course I wont be breeding with her!!  The problem has been brought under control and she is well as long as she is on her medication - the vet specialist who treats her is happy with her progress - thanks for your concern.

Have an awesome weekend all of you

Ciao











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