German Shepherd dog

I'm not a political activist, BUT enough is enough.  Here in California there is a real threat of people being denied the tight to breed dogs. How long has man been around the domestic dog and manipulated their uses? 20,00 years; more?

    California is a big state. There is money and power here, yet dog breeders here still need the help of their brethren nationwide.  When I think of what is going on in our legislative body I shudder.  There are powerful forces at work here trying to take away breeders rights by requiring statewide sterilization; i.e. PETA and the Humane Society.

   This is what came to mind.  Is your state or locale next?

Any thoughts or insights?

      Don De Leon

Next will be the females of the United States of America under the auspices of the Doctors and the Pharmachutical companies..after they get all of us addicted to every prescription drug for  heart,,,high blood pressure, diahrea, stomach aches,  arthritis, indigestion,  you name it.......read   Kevin Trudeau;s books    The Natural Cures they dont Want you to know,,,Updated version     ......will shock the rest of the hair off your head,,,,,,,get the three (now a new book out this month..+_ after the US government threw him in jail for releasing secrets that researchers have been banned from telling and some Doctors thrown out of our country......also get your chip  folks., so the US government or the Tri Lateral commission and the New World Government can find all of you....

I will die first before they chip me or my kids or my grand kids..

Brent,

The Hamilton County Humane society has a sign up in the entry Hall that States a Mandatory Spay neuter law, for that County  Noblesville, Indiana. 

YellowRose, I love the diagnosis of restless legs syndrome. Everyone has to have something that needs expensive drugs. What's next? Chronic nosepicking syndrome?

Watch out!  Homeland Security maybe checking the database!  But, all kidding aside, yes L.A. did pass the 4 month spay/neuter legislation. There were restrictions in place concerning breeding before the mandatory sterilization though. The Tri-Lateral commision; haven't heard that one for a while. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist...executive ability and all that. As for the microchips, make mine the AVID brand!     Have a good evening and sleep with one eye open.

                               Don D.

Don, you are right to be concerned about all the dog legislation in California.  It is part of the creeping fascism that is taking over our great nation.  All the diversity and political correctness stuff are merely political tools to destroy the constitution and take away our freedoms.  It seems that we now have a thug caste in power at the highest levels.  Why do the oil companies fund "animal rights groups" and "environmental groups" ?  It's a marketing ploy, to further an antidrilling anti-refinery strategy to keep the oil supply down and the price high, thus keeping the profits high and thus restructuring our nation from a free constitututional republic to a fascist corporate oligarchy.  The dog sports are the canaries in the coal mine.  When heavy new laws take them away from us, the republic will be "dead".

Preston Well met! 

As this topic moved to include micro-chipping I do not think I'm hijacking with this. 

Be aware of how scary NAIS is.  Premis ID, all "livestock" (includes poultry) micro-chipped, must report movement between locations (horse shows, cattle shows, veterinarian, trail rides, races), when the animal is sold and to whom, or when the animal is either butchered or dies.

http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2006/tst052906.htm

http://nonais.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Animal_Identification_System

The state of Colorado made premis ID mandentory for any young person wishing to compete in 4H or FAA.  Unles they had a premis ID and animals registered they could not compete.  This is a underhanded way to force the young peoples parents into having to comply.

First to blame are organizations like PETA and HSUS who want the total liberation of animals - meaning no pets, no service dogs, no working dogs, no livestock, etc.

Second to blame are lawmakers who want anticipated quick fixes to issues caused by irresponsible owners and those that are incorrigible in society and want animals as status symbols.

Places have enacted BSL and mandatory s/n and have typically  reported no success.  Rather it becomes a financial burden on the locales that enact this legislation.

Owners of animals need to become active in fighting these animal rights groups and the legislators that feel these laws are beneficial.

To present an opposing viewpoint (believe me, I'm not at all in favour of Big Brother being able to track my every move!)...

No matter how good an idea is to start with, it seems someone will find a way to turn it to evil. 

Here are a few good reasons for microchipping:

Every year, elderly people with Alzheimer's or other forms of dementia wander away from their homes and get lost. Some die from hypothermia. Their lives could have been saved if they'd been microchipped or tagged in some way.

If your very valuabe dog were stolen, or lost, wouldn't YOU want to be able to track it , in order to get it back home?

What if your KID were kidnapped??  Or lost?

In the case of livestock, supposing an animal, at the time of slaughter, proved to have some disease harmful to humans. Wouldn't it be nice if you could trace the animal to its farm of origin, in order to get a handle on the disease before it could spread, and become more difficult to contain?

Pros and cons, people. AS LONG AS IT'S VOLUNTARY, I say, 'what the hey?'

(Gets her blast-proof armour ready...)

Sunsilver - Armor not needed :o)

As with any invention, people will have the best of intentions for the use of the product, but there will be those who will bastardize the product for some other use, or in some cases for some other gain.

I do not oppose microchipping and there are more than likely MANY wonderful uses for this product.  Unfortunately there are those who will use them unethically as a tracking device and not as an identification device as their intended use.

And as you state:  Voluntary microchipping should continue.

Personally, my biggest beef re. Big Business controlling the world we live in has to to with our continuing dependence on oil. I saw this happening 'way back when I was in High School. Some very smart inventor would come up with a car that ran on a new fuel source. He'd start to make a name for himself. GM or Ford would offer to buy up his patents for a very healthy sum of money.

And that would be the last anyone would hear of his invention.

Simple logic: get us off our dependence on oil and gas, and there will be NO NEED to slug it out in the Middle East. Hopefully, we'll even be able to find a fuel source that will decrease CO2 emissions, and thus help prevent global warming.

But no. For many decades now, it's been "what's good for the Big Three automakers is good for the country..." And they, and the powerful oil and gas marketing cartels have a very strong reason for keeping things the way they are!

BTW, gas jumped to $1.20 a litre here. It's gone up about 15 cents in the last three weeks. Part of it is the 'usual' increase that comes as soon as the weather gets nice, and people want to travel. Ohhh, yes, no one is ever going to convince me they don't CONTROL the supply, so they can do this to us, and claim, 'Hey, the price is supply-demand based!'

GRRRRRRrrrrr!!

Now, one might say what the heck does oil have to do with dogs sports and the GSD breed?  Answer:  everything. Here's why.  One of the greatest threats to the GSD breed is high fuel costs.  This decreases travel to participate in dog sports.  High fuel costs raise all the prices for all goods, since transportaion costs go up, and the costs of food rises with it. The recent commitment of many state gov't to ethanol from corn production of course will result in serious world wide food shortgaes as farmers switch from wheat to corn to cash in.  Kinda seems like a plan to create an international food shortage, no.  According to fuel production specialists in Brazil, switch grass is far more efficient in producing ethanol than corn, which is at the low end of the efficiency spectrum and a poor choice, requiring use of far too much water thus creating a major drop in the water tablewhere the refineries are located. Not too bright huh.  Unless it is part of a bigger plan to take the USA down.  The single driving force of the American economy has been cheap energy and if that is removed, the economy will quickly revert to a cvaste system with a very small or non-existent middle class.  All the unconstituional so called "free trade" agreements such as nafta, cafta, gatt have done nothing but strip our national sovereihnity and transfer most of our manufacturing out of the USA. The big corporations who used the USA to get their wealth have jettisoned us and moved on to wider global green pastures and don't care a hoot about us at all. 

Dog sports and the GSD breed are the canaries in coalmine.  When high fuel prices run their coarse and you see these cut back to a fraction of what they were five years ago, then you know the end of our republic will be close at hand.  Back in the 1920's when the first GSD imports came into the USA, the sport was typically only participated in by the upper classes, it was generally a sport for the very well off.  The dog shows were typically held on the country estates of wealthy aristocratic families.  During the 1950's up through the 1990's the GSD related sports became generalized to the middle classes.  I see this trend reversing rapidly the last few years and especially the last year.  No dog sport can thrice if high food and fuel prices produce a major economic depression.  WE are now in a very major recession, the worst since 1970 when we had wage price controls.  The big question is that unless the gov't breaks up the oil cartel monopolies, can the US keep from a quick descent into a major depression like in the 1930's?  The answer is no, so folks better get cracking on this very quckly before we see the end of the USA.

Sunsilver, you are right about that.  I always like to see owner handled dogs.  The HOT dogs are the epitomy of excellence.

 Preston, I think the extreme consequence as you put it, "the end of the USA" is not likely to happen. This is our own fault since we were warned during the crisis in the '70's to find alternative sources of energy, but ignored it completely once gas prices receded. Never did the price drop back to the original cheapest price, but became something everyone got used to swallowing.

Two Moons: What you say gives me a chuckle, because it reminds me of my husband (who follows the price of oil like a hawk, constantly bemoaning the state we are in.) He feels for the real plight of those less fortunate, especially the poorer classes. And then I remind him, didn't you buy oil  in your retirement account, aren't you kind of wanting to "stick it to the man", oh wait, yeah...I guess you are the man!"  (I love that commercial if you know which one I'm thinking of...) 

And, I agree, the environment always suffers. Did you know there is not a single beach in the world that does not have manmade garbage on it! I also find it ironic that even as everyone complains about global warning, anyone can chop down a hundred plus year old tree for the simple reason they don't want to clean up the nuts when they fall in the fall. But I'm a closet treehugger from way back.  

Brent

Cheer up!  We will never see the effects!  Let our children's children worry about it! 

I have better things to worry about!  Like the cost of gas to fill up my Suburban and my wife's Hummer. 

YRT

I don't own any SUVs and I could never own a foreign vehicle. 

Speak, go back and read about the opium wars (2 of them) and the boxer rebellion.  Learn about the british east india company, etc. and how they used drugs as a tool of war to get back all the silver and gold paid to china for silk,spices, tea and goods.  By the way the same "families" are still using narcotrafficking as a tool of war against the people of the world, spreading chaos, raising money for black ops, and getting them ready for complete law and order which the "new worldorder" is claimed to proviode (along with no personal freedoms either). You are remarkably naive about history.  Read about the breakup of standard oil at the turn of the century and why it occurrred. Learn about Bretton Woods and what it actually means.

Peak oil is a marketing ploy that was invented and sold to the public to keep the price of oil products high, thus to force globalism. There is more oil now available for drilling than ever before.  The earth is literally awash in oil. If there was such a shortage of oil then why have the int'l oil cartels used dirty tricks to keep the wildcatters from drilling?  Take away all the bizarre and unfounded "environmental crap" laws and regulations that the US citizens have been brainwashed with for the last 25 years and start drilling everywhere and bulding another 50 refineries.  Oil will go down to $1.25 a gallon and food prices will drop. Opec are the handmaiden cutouts for the old balck nobility ruling euro families who use brussels, the "city of London" (not London) and Switzerland for their escapades. 

It's like Stalin said when it came to plans for the soviet machine to defeat the west. He said they would convince them to buy the rope that they would hang themselves with.  It's called high mind contol through mass media conditioning of phony scientifically indefensible propaganda. 

Dog sports have to go as part of a total resocialization pan to strip us of all individual freedom, rights and hobbies so that we can become good serfs of the new world order.  It's only a matter time, that is when and not if, the dog sports will be restricted out of existence.  Marrk my words on this. By the way, some stores started rationing food sales today.  Check the news.

Speaknow, you might enjoy reading the "Report from Ironmountain" which was quite a controversial book.  It was reputedly published by a member of the commission out of guilt and then he and others later denied that it was true after they had a 1 am "not to worry visit" from the aphabet "men in black".  Google this, skim through it and you will understand where the environmentalist movement came from. 

The only ones who gain from mass industrial pollution are those who provide the solution and suffer the consequences.  Big gov't gains new far reaching powers, industries are villainized, and the oil companies get restricted refining and much higher prices and profits.  Now are you starting to see how this all works.

Dog sports involve freedom and individual thought and actions and therefore cannot be tolerated in the new global plantation.  It has already been decided by those with all the mioney and power as a part of an overall strategy to strip all our personal freedoms and rights away, because they believe that they prevent the introduction of the global plantation.  It's a known fact that dog sport folks make very bad serfs and worker bees in the hive.  That is why the big boys think they must have their dog s[prts restricted.