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What does it cost to import?
by Ramage on 15 April 2008 - 23:04
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I keep seeing some lovely dogs for sale in other countries. What does it cost to import, let's say from Germany? I'm just curious as to a ballpark figure. Also, how long is quarantine?


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by Q Man on 15 April 2008 - 23:04


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If you're talking about importing from Germany to the United States...There isn't a quanantine and the cost usually runs very close to $1000.00...Time you pay for the shipment....the crate...and then to pay customs...It's better to have a Broker clear the dog through Customs for you...Which usually runs about $250.00...But if you don't use a broker to clear your dog then you have a lot of questions to answer to Customs...And sometimes they'll clear it and sometimes they won't....

~Bob~


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by Larrydee on 16 April 2008 - 00:04
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Just inquired to this exact subject.  To have Gradlyn ship a pup from Germany with crate customs the whole nine yards to Boston Mass was 360.00 Euros roughly $540.00 USD.     I have a written estimate from Gradlyn for that price.


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by Ramage on 16 April 2008 - 00:04
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Larrydee, can you tell me how to get in touch with them? That is a price I could afford


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by Larrydee on 16 April 2008 - 01:04
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Ramage

             Here is Gradlyn web ste   www.petshipping.com.  From what I gather they are based in Germany.   I got both a German and English price quote.

I was under the same assumpation as you were but your right it's more than affordable.  The prices in Germany for the dogs are very affordable with outstanding quality.

All your top American breeders import from Europe   Why can't we do the same thing.

I have just run into an incredable deal in Germany. if you are looking for working lines take a look at this web site  the Lux/Wilma breeding for 700 euros   www.vonderteufelskehle.de  Try and match that in the US

But Germany is loaded with these kind of deals.


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by Silbersee on 16 April 2008 - 01:04


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Maybe you two could get together and import two puppies out of the same litter! It used to be that two puppies could be shipped together in a 500 crate. That might cut down on shipping costs.

As I had mentioned previously, beware that these quotes do not cover the transportation to the airport (pick-up, overnight stay - if applicable). That could double the cost again. So, if you two split the cost for a 500 crate, you might be able to save some expenses.

Chris


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by TRUgsds on 16 April 2008 - 02:04
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Chris is right, (as usual)

I noticed this on the Gradlyn website just the other day when I was checking into it myself.

Can I put two animals in the crate?
Only if they are younger than 3 months or you have a letter from your veterinarian confirming that both animals MUST travel together.

TRU


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by Karla on 16 April 2008 - 02:04
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A quarantine is required if you import a puppy or dog without a rabies vaccination.  This usually means signing a confinement agreement  to the effect that the puppy will be quarantined under the owner's supervision for thirty days following a rabies vaccination, meaning the puppy is confined to your premise.

With our last adult dog imported last summer, shipping cost was roughly $900.  

Karla

 

 


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by TRUgsds on 16 April 2008 - 02:04
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I paid 589E for an adult just recently


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by Alabamak9 on 16 April 2008 - 03:04
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Make sure they give you a accurate quote my last one adult was 1,048.00 from this same company for a 500 crate a adult dog and they intially said 745.00 not sure what happened whether is was in Euro and they exchange rate or what but the credit card was deducted with 1.048.00 and that was over a year ago and it is higher with fuel sir charges now from what I understand not counting customs charged me 200.00 in atlanta   Marlene


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by JGA on 16 April 2008 - 03:04
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586 E = about $950 USD, and you still don't have the Custom Broker $250 fee figured in. If you don't use a customs broker you have to sign an affidavit at customs that the dog will not be shown, sold or bred.

I no longer import puppies as you have to quarrentine them on your property until 30 days past their Rabies vaccinaton, so that is 5 months old before the puppy can be taken to socialize, go to a club etc.  Fully vaccinated adults do not have a quarrentine if coming to the USA. Shipping  for adults is naturally more expensive than a puppy.

Shipping a puppy within the USA usually costs about $300 including a crate and health certificate, so you may loose the savings you got from buying the lower priced European puppy due to the difference in cost of shipping. But if it is a blood line you want, it would be worth it.


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by John Kennedy on 16 April 2008 - 04:04
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I just imported a pup. The flight was from GK or known as Gradlyn Kennels. The flight cost for my 3.5 month old pup was 495 Euros.

I am also importing 2 pups next month. They will be shipped together for a total of 480 Euros.

As our American dollar goes down hill compare to the Euro, the price of shipping alone will be too high.

My last excange was 1 euro equal to 1.6437 U.S.  So if you see a pup for 800 Euros, that would really cost you 1314.96 dollars plus shipping of 480 Euros (788.97). Now that is a total of 2103.93. Not to mention paying customs, gas, phone calls to approve entry to the country. The bill really does add up.586 E = about $950 USD, and you still don't have the

JGA

Custom Broker $250 fee figured in. If you don't use a customs broker you have to sign an affidavit at customs that the dog will not be shown, sold or bred.

I never had to pay 250 dollars nor sign any such papers.

Shipping a puppy within the USA usually costs about $300 including a crate and health certificate,

I wish it would only cost 300 dollars, maybe you meant 300 Euros which is still very cheap.

I no longer import puppies as you have to quarrentine them on your property until 30 days past their Rabies vaccinaton, so that is 5 months old before the puppy can be taken to socialize, go to a club etc. 

My 3.5 month old was not quarrentine at all, home nor thru customs. Maybe they goofed up and I got lucky.

 


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by John Kennedy on 16 April 2008 - 04:04
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The prices I quoted was for the shipping aspect not the price of any of my dogs. Tho I wish it would be...lol

 

 

John Kennedy


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by John Kennedy on 16 April 2008 - 04:04
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I just checked my last export papers. I paid customs 32 dollars.

 

John Kennedy


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by Two Moons on 16 April 2008 - 04:04


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Ramage,

If your gonna do it ya better hurry, fuel costs and the declining dollar are just gonna keep driving the price of shipping higher and higher.


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by Ramage on 16 April 2008 - 04:04
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Well, there is a nice prospect I am considering now that is here in the states  So, I may not have to worry about importing.

It's interesting to see the varied prices on importing.

Also, Everyone I have talked to has quoted around $450-$500 to ship here in the US $350 to ship, $85 for a crate, and $40 for health cert ... give or take depending on the breeder. So, it's no longer $300 including crate


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by JGA on 16 April 2008 - 04:04
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Note to John...You got lucky not having the customs fee or having the affidavid or the quarrentine. Some places just don't bother to follow ther rules. At LAX they are usually pretty picky an dot the i's and cross the t's. I live in San Diego county and LAX officials notified the San Diego Animal Control who actually came out to verify the puppy was here, and checked again when the puppy was to be released from quarrentine.

As for shipping in the USA, I use Continental for East-West and Alaska for up and down the west coat. I pay about $200 in airfare (usually $186 + $15 fuel charge), the crate is about $50 at Wal-Mart for a #200, and the Health Cert is $50. I don't charge to drive the puppy to the airport (45 miles). United and Delta can be pricey. North West used to be reasonable, but with Delta just buying them out that could change....Jackie Athon


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by giblaut on 16 April 2008 - 04:04
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I have just run into an incredable deal in Germany. if you are looking for working lines take a look at this web site  the Lux/Wilma breeding for 700 euros   www.vonderteufelskehle.de  Try and match that in the US

 

That's a nice breeding and a good price. But 700 euros is $1100. Add aproximately $900 for import costs. Also, not likely to get any guarantee/contract. So, it's certainly worthwhile--but is it a "better deal" than buying from in the US? No, not really.

 

Christine

www.blackthornkennel.com


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by Two Moons on 16 April 2008 - 05:04


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Ramage,

Besides actual costs of shipment some people are charging for their time and trouble.   Prices will vary alot here in the states.   Maybe you could find something within driving distance and be able to pick it up yourself.    I myself hate to ship, its a lot of stress on the animal.   I hope you find what your looking for.   Shop around.


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by Sharon9624 on 16 April 2008 - 05:04


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I just imported a female that weighs a little more than 70 pounds her cost was around $800 on Lufthansa air cargo from Germany to Detroit. Plus the cost of a dog broker which was $225.00 and a cost of $25 to the Lufthansa cargo. When you use the broker you only have to go to the airline cargo office to pick up the dog. If you don't use the broker you must pick up paperwork and take it to customs and answer all sorts of questions, the whole process takes anywhere from one to two hours to complete. I like dealing with the broker because this way the dog is ready for pickup immediately, the broker clears the dog thru customs while it is in the air. I used a company called Geodis & Wilson. The cost will depend on the size of the dog and also on whether the seller will take the dog to the airport themselves as opposed to sending it with a shipping company in Germany. If you have any other questions feel free to email me.

Sharon


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by Oskar1 on 16 April 2008 - 12:04
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Howdy,

to clear the issue of quarantine :

If the pup is UNDER the age of 3 month, no rabies vaccination is needed. Owner will have to sign up on pickup of the pup, that he will "house quaratane" the dog for 30 days. This can get checked by the lokal animal cotroll officer. Never heared that is was, but the possibility is there.

If the pup is OVER the age of 3 month, it has to have rabies shots done, which have to be older than 30 days befor entering the US. Easy to avoid, if you just put a little thought to it and plan accordingly.

All my US puppy buyers claimed their pup themselfs, I have not heared yet that there have been any mayor problems. Yes, the paperwork may take a little time, but certainly not worth 200 - 250 $,imo. At least I would not spend it.

The airfare from Germany to the US depends on a great deal on where you want the pup be send to. Gradlyn Kennels & PetAir are located at Frankfurt Airport. Here is the HP for PetAir : www.petair.de  They also have a english written HP, and do speak english. I just send a 4 month old pup to Las Vegas, it was about 450 €uros = roughly 700 $, send one last year to Atlanta, it was about 320€uros = roughly 550$.

And yes, if you, the buyer decide to have the animal transported by either Gradlyn or PetAir from the breeder to the Airport, they do charge for the pickup seperatly. The cost for that will vary, depending how far the trip for the pickup will be. Useally they pick up a day prior to the flight, so there will be also an overnight stay at the Airport Frankfurt. I would suggest, to find out how much PetAir & Gradlyn charges for that service & then talk to the breeder if he / she would be willing to bring the dog there. This will safe your pup an overnight stay in unknown surroundings and you will probably save some money. Just dont expect the breeder to do it for free, with gas prices around 7 $ per gallon, that would be just to much to ask.

One more thing : The puppy cost a certain amount - the cost for shipping is something totally diffrent.

Hope this helps. Regards Ulli Dresbach


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by Oskar1 on 16 April 2008 - 12:04
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Sorry, have to ad :

If you ship with Gradlyn or petair, the price useually incl. crate. Shipping price also depends on size of crate. Healthcerts have to be provided by breeder, but I believe Gradlyn & PetAir are capabel to provide that as well.

Ulli Dresbach


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by Larrydee on 16 April 2008 - 13:04
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Oskar1

            Thank you very much for the information.  Guess if your going to get a pup from Germany it is best to do it sooner than later as costs just keep going up.


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by Karla on 16 April 2008 - 15:04
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to clear the issue of quarantine :


If the pup is UNDER the age of 3 month, no rabies vaccination is needed. Owner will have to sign up on pickup of the pup, that he will "house quaratane" the dog for 30 days. This can get checked by the lokal animal cotroll officer. Never heared that is was, but the possibility is there.


If the pup is OVER the age of 3 month, it has to have rabies shots done, which have to be older than 30 days befor entering the US. Easy to avoid, if you just put a little thought to it and plan accordingly.

Proof of rabies vaccinations (regardless whether or not it has been done) is not required for entry into the US...  from CDC's website (state requirements vary and of course Germany has its own set of regulations):

  • Importation of Unvaccinated Dogs: Dogs not accompanied by proof of rabies vaccination, including those that are too young to be vaccinated (i.e. less than 3 months of age), may be admitted if the importer completes a confinement agreement (see below) and confines the animal until it is considered adequately vaccinated against rabies (the vaccine is not considered effective until 30 days after the date of vaccination). Spanish, French, and Russian translations of form CDC 75.37 are available, but must be completed in English.


    • Puppies that are too young to be vaccinated (i.e. less than 3 months of age) must be kept in confinement until they are old enough to be vaccinated, and then confined for at least 30 days after the date of vaccination.
    • Unvaccinated dogs must be vaccinated within 4 days of arrival at their final U.S. destination and within 10 days of entry into the United States, and must be kept in confinement for at least 30 days after the date of vaccination.
    • Dogs may not be sold or transferred to other owners during this period of confinement, and the person that signs the confinement agreement is responsible for ensuring the conditions of the agreement are met.
    • Importers must provide a contact address where the dog will be kept during the confinement period. If the importer will be housing the dog at several addresses or traveling with the animal, all points of contact must be provided.

     

  • Karla


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    by eichenluft on 16 April 2008 - 15:04
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    I just imported an adult female (70# dog + 500-sized crate) and the shipping cost was $1000.  She was shipped via Gradlyn.  I hadn't imported a dog in quite a while, and the price has doubled since then. 

     

    molly


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    by Karla on 16 April 2008 - 15:04
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    Dogs must clear customs at the port of entry.  If you can not pick up your dog or puppy at the initial port of entry, someone will have to clear the dog i.e.  customs broker.   If on a direct flight to owner's locale, no problem....


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    by John Kennedy on 16 April 2008 - 19:04
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    If shipping from Germany and using GK to ship, use there website to find the cost.

    www.gkair.de
    www.petshipping.com
     

     

    Faruk Berberovic is the General Manager for GK
     

    Gradlyn Kennels
    G.K. Airfreight Service GmbH
    Cargo City Nord, Bldg 458
    60549 Frankfurt - Airport
    faruk@gkair.de

    I know we got off the topic a little, but he would be able to help answer any questions with shipping, as he was very nice in helping me. He speaks english very well.

    Thanks,

    John Kennedy

     


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    by SKI on 16 April 2008 - 20:04
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    If you ship directly to the port of Entry, then clearing customs is very easy.   But if you have a connecting flight, then there is the issue of customs clearance.  Gradlyn will recommend Barthco.

    Crates run about $50.  Last few times we have shipped to the west coast and east coast, it was $230 (or there abouts).  Our vets charge 42-47 for health certificates.  We provide all the receipts, so there is no question.

    And yes, shipping has drastically increased from Germany.

     

     


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    by TRUgsds on 16 April 2008 - 22:04
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    With the drastic drop in the value of the American Dollar, I can't see for how much longer anyone can afford considering importing dogs or puppies. As I mentioned above, I think I have just imported my last dog from overseas just this month. For example, the young male I'm importing was say, 4000E including shipping. I have been tracking what my cost was compared to when I wired the money and what it would have cost me last week and this week. Just in the last week our dollar has dropped enough that today it would cost me almost $100.00 more than just last week. My cost would have gone up $65.00 in just the last two-three days on the 4000E alone.

    I have been thinking now with Americans more or less forced to turn to locally born pups and adults currently in the US when purchasing, where will our prices go? One would think we now could get more money here at home with more buying within the States, but at the same time with our depression in general, I would think many of us will take this into consideration and be keeping our prices or even considering lowering them to deal with our economy. One thing that scares me is the average pet buyer will not be able to pay for a well bred, higher priced German Bloodline puppy that some of us may be offering and turning toward the BYB to obtain what they can afford. Others may try to take advantage of the loss of sales from the European Breeders by raising their prices here at home. It's not that they are raising their prices in Germany, it's not that they are receiving more for their dogs and pups, it's just our having to Pay such much more on our end, that it certainly has to be affected their sales and ours as well. So, what are your thoughts of how this will affect our prices and our sales here in the States?

    TRU

     


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    by Oskar1 on 17 April 2008 - 08:04
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    Howdy,

    Karla, thank you for the valuable info you provided. I allready saved the links you provided for future reference. I described the way I did these things in the past, as I said, there have been no problems sofar. I guess, I was lucky. When someone bought a Pup over the age of 3 month, I had them vaccinated and kept them for annother 30 days and then sending them of.

    Ski,

    as I mentioned, I just recently send a Pup to Las Vegas. It had a stopover in Detroit,MI. As far as I know, the buyer cleared the Pup at customs in Las Vegas (prior to its arrival of course), they then informed customs in Detroit. As far as I know there was no problem with it.

    Regards Ulli


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    by SKI on 17 April 2008 - 11:04
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    Sorry, meant to clearify the costs - I meant in the US.

    Ulli,

    I have heard that as well.  But, I have already heard of issue due to delays in flights and "not nice" agents at the port of entry.   It is a catch 22 sometimes.

    Will you be at the WUSV in the US?

    Sue

     

     


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    by Oskar1 on 17 April 2008 - 13:04
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    Howdy Sue,

    wont be able to make it to the WUSV - I sure wished I could !

    I guess I have been very lucky with sending Pups/ dogs over so far. But you are right, I always hold my breath, till my pups are at their destination.

    Regards Ulli











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