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Classified: Show female 10 month Fritz Farbenspiel bloodline
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Curious about your thoughts on this xray (21 replies)
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I had these done a few months ago on my puppy (I am skittish about hips, and I needed to know then because the full purchase was going to be based upon his initial pennhip scores...he was fivish months old when I had them done).
This is the first of the three xrays they took for the pennhip...I have the other two if you are interested...but I just wanted your opinions on the extension view.
I'll be doing both of mine again between ages of 18-24 months with the pennhip....and OFA'ing too O.o My females appointment for her prelims comes up in about a month (a month after she comes out of heat at least O.o)
Thanks
~Cate |
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sockets look deep enough, the hips could be seated tighter but depending on the age of the puppy (I suspect young from your post) this can be normal laxity. I think the hips look fine.
molly |
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The Cranials and Dorsals look good. Exercise and RAW diet for a better joint, rim and edge @ 18-24 months. PennHip is by far better than OFA, Pennsylvania focuses on individual breeds and keeps a database on specifics for student education. Pennsylvania also promotes the VMD instead of the DVM. Beautiful Ray. |
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They look nice and tight to me. The lines you see on the ball joint, and the head of the femur are the places where the bones are still growing (growth plates) and are quite normal. |
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Baby Eagle, I am confused by your post. The vet school at the University of PA issues the degree of VMD to it's grads while all other vet schools in the US issue a DVM. Is that what you are talking about? |
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That's my White Shepherd male. He ended up coming back with .33/.32 laxity in his hips, which is 80th percentile for Shepherds.
I was also kind of wondering about the positioning from those of you with a better eye. To me it looks danged good...so I am a little leary of having anyone other than my Pennhip Vet do my Xrays (he's snotty about OFA...but I think he'do it if I asked real nice)...It just seems like good hip xrays are few and far between...so if you find a vet that does it right you stick with them...I think since the pennhip vets have to go through classes that helps some O.o
His dam is Excellent and his sire is Fair. I think he is going to be leaning more towards his damline in terms of hips, which would be nice :)
~Cate |
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You can bring that down well below 0.3 ya know. |
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What do you mean? By feeding and exercise? I actually just got my grinder so I am switching both of mine back to a Kibble morning, raw in the evening diet :)
~Cate |
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Do you know your BUN level ? |
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What's BUN? (lol...no I dont O.o)
Forgive me if I ask some dopey questions...dog ownership is a generally new thing to me O.o
~Cate |
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BUN is a test Vets can do similiar to a CBC, that tell you what deficiencies your animal has internally or nutritionally. |
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oooh - I havent done that...Guess I should though O.o
::streaks off to find the phone number::
~Cate |
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BUN measures the amount of nitrogen in the blood, an indicator of how well the kidneys are functioning. It's important to know if your dog is on a high protein diet, which will put added stress on the kidneys. |
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Sunsilver protein is NOT the cause of Kidney stress or damage in a healthy dog. That's a myth. Actually you should cut back proteins ONLY if the BUN is 70-75 or higher. See this is what pisses me off ... whoever started this rumor and others is full of it, and obviously NOT for the life of the animal. Think about it ... when a dog is starving do you see it in the tomato, wheat, pea, cabbage, carrot or chicken isle ? |
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Ceph, although I'm not accustomed to seeing a hip xray on a dog this young and considering some of the growth plates obviously still need to close, I think you could safely assume he has normal hips for his breed and age. I don't know anything at all about PH other than they base their opinion on the degree of laxity of the hip joint. I'll assume those readings are also considered normal for breed and age. Was your dog xrayed using a wedge? A+ on the quality and positioning of the x-ray.
A young dog would not routinely need a BUN, most vets use that particular test as Sunsilver has stated - to determine how well the kidneys are functioning. Too much protein in the diet will certainly cause a slight elevation in the results, but I'm not sure what that has to do with your dog's hips or anything else regarding a healthy 6 month old large breed dog. I'd save my money if I were you. |
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BUN is in our pre operative blood screening for young dogs. Also includes, CREAT, ALT, ALKP, GLU, TP. Plus a urine specific gravity and a PCV. (PCV is only part of the CBC, it's the packed cell volume) |
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And I think too, that for a puppy, these look pretty good so far.
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Whatever happened to the days when vets didn't require pre-op blood testing for young healthy animals? I wish I were convinced it's not overkill. |
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hi blitzen. there have been cases that we've found very early disease. sometimes it could be something like a liver shunt or something like that. sure, part of it is to cover their butts. It is such a matte of routine for us, with the exception of a feral cat or something. I guess the way that I feel about it, is that animals are so good at hiding things, even though there may be something wrong.
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I dont know what a wedge is either O.o
I do know he was put under when it was done...that is something required by Pennhip. I wish I had thought to bring my camera when I had my female done...but her prelims should be coming up in about two months so I should have something of her then. I think I am going to try to go back to this doctor though...He seems safe O.o Even if I'll have to convince him to OFA O.o
Thanks everyone!
~Cate |
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