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Bad Morning (42 replies)
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Walking the Pup Goran past a Farm Building this morning where two workmen were re poining the motar in the Walls, The main double Gate was open,
Out shot Two Jack Russell Terriers who went straight for Pup Goran as we went by, One had a go at the back Leg on the thigh of the Pup, the Other dog went for his Face, i caught the one who went for his face a smack on the Head and turned to the one at the Back grabbing it by its Collar at the back of the Neck i throw it against the Wall of the Building which stopped it interest the other one came again at the Pup and i hit it again on the Nose, actually i went for its throat but missed, but not before it s teeth grazed my fore arm, and drew blood
Both ran back inside, and i went round the corner to the Workmen, and told them to give the Farmer a message, that if his Dogs get out again i will kill them and then i will be coming for him, and to make sure he gets the message
I could not let the Pup go off the lead as we were on a busy main road on which the front of the farm is
I thought afterwards its lucky Goran was a long hair otherwise i think the Dog would have damaged his Leg. as it was he was he is none the worse for it
Steve |
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Oh no! Well glad no serious damage was done. I can just picture the JRT hitting the wall...no seriously, since I recall doing that once in a similar instance.  Heh.... |
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Bring a can of pepper spray with you for your walks. Poor pup, long coat or not, he could still have injuries that are unnoticed.
What about the bite to yourself? Can you get the farmer to provide rabies certs for the dogs involved? If not, consult your Dr.
Glad you are ok for the most part. |
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Thats what happens when you have IDIOTS allowed to have dogs.I said it before and i'll say it again,there should be some kind of law that requires you to take some training and commen sense classes before you can own a dog.Dont you love the FKN idiots who have there dogs loose everywhere and then call out to you "oh its ok ,my dogs are friendly".Its gotten to a point one can not take his dogs for a simple walk anymore.I sometimes have to put my 2 boys in the van and take them elsewhere just for a walk.Steve ,at least you protected your pup.Good luck |
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Steve,by the way I like your style when it comes to giving that farmer the message.Thats the good old fashion way. |
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Reminds me of an incident at the club one day. We were training on private property and a woman came walking through with her little white fluffy dog---not leashed of course. Little white fluffy dog turned into Cujo and attacked the dog on the field that was working blinds. The German Shepherd just stopped and stared but fluffy got ahold of his nose and clamped down. Next thing I knew, fluffy was flying through the air compliments of the handler's boot. It was a magic moment. |
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Steve1, have you considered reporting the incident to the local animal control authorities? You were attacked, you have a wound to show for it, and you do have witnesses. The next person who encounters these JRTs might fare worse. |
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Wow-sorry to hear about your experience, Steve.
Hope the situation didn't traumatize your pup!
I'd be checking into the whole thing with the bite, too-there's tons of bacteria that resides in the mouth of animals and can make the wound extremely painful and make you potentially sick.
We'll hope both you & your pup are fortunate and never have to deal with such again! |
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Steve
I bring a hand held stun gun with me when I walk my dog also a small walking stick. While walking Gunner the other day this lab cross who I have had plenty of trouble with thru the years came chargeing down his drive way at full speed. Guinner stoped and turned to face him giving him this ice cold stare the lab came to a sudden stop sliding forward and stopped barking Gunner didn't move a muscle just stared at him the lab turned around with his tail between his legs ears down and whimped his way back up the driveway. My last GSD got into a blood and guts all out fight with this lab but Gunner stood his ground in a rock steady stance and stared the lab down. Gunner then proceeded to do his business on the labs lawn and he went on like nothing had happened. |
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Back in the days when my husband and my GSD Tasha were still around, one of our neighbours owned a Jack Russell. My dog book says they'll attack anything that moves, and the only suitable companion is a horse! I can well believe it. They're feisty little buggers!
Anyway, Idiot Neighbour was washing his car, and had the dog off leash. As Roger and Tasha came walking by, he came roaring down the driveway, barking. Roger told Tasha to sit, and she did. When the Jackie got close enough, he leaped for Tasha's throat. She knocked him down with one paw, pinned him to the ground, and bit him on the bum.
He lost interest in the fignt, and went kiyiing back up the driveway to his master.
My husband apologized, but mentioned the fact the dog SHOULD have been leashed, as ours was, then asked if the dog was hurt.
The owner shrugged. "Only his dignity!" he replied.
Next morning, a very apologetic Owner's Wife was at our door, asking if Tasha had had her rabies shot, as they later found her teeth had drawn blood.
In the 14 years we had her, it was the only time she ever bit another dog, but he sure as hell deserved it.
Wouldn't have minded if she'd bitten the Idiot Owner for good measure! |
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Hopefully Goran will not be adversely effected by those two dogs.
I have had similiar situations walking my pup recently. Fortunately I can still pick her up, but I've had a beagle charge her in the neighborhood and yesterday a dog being walked off leash in the park came at her. I got the 'he just wants to say hi' crap when I asked the owner to leash her dog, which after the dog started circling and growling, she finally did.
Most off leash dogs don't approach my adult, thank goodness.
I have heard that ammonia in the eyes will stop a dog, has anyone tried it?
Jackie |
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now you need the farmer to verify rabies shots of dogs or face treatment, and you threatened someones life to witness's
Never tell someone your coming. let it be a suprise.
what happens now if you need to involve the authorities?
I dont blame you for being pissed off, but you should be careful about making threats. It can come back to haunt you.
Revenge is best served cold. |
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I carry mace and a wiffle ball bat when I take Blitz out. If a dog comes out after him I scream like an idiot and will make a UFO out of the dog if the owner doesn't retrieve it before it gets to Blitz. All the neighbors thinks I'm nuts, but I don't care. When they see us coming, they snatch up their dogs and run inside. Mission accomplished. That method also keeps the neighbors' dogs out of my yard. I have an underground fence. Blitz is a big dog, 97 lbs, and can handle himself, but I do not want him to fight. Once a dog has a good go around with another dog, it seems they find out it is great fun and want to do it again.
Steve, some herding breeds actually call for thick. longer coats to protect the dog from being bitten by wolves and other dogs  . |
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A man need never revenge himself, the body of his enemy will be brought to his own door.
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Because of the dog fighting post from yesturday I remebered cattle prods are fun as well as functional. And they may actually be stylish..lol like a walking stick. I'm off to Tractor Supply today. The kids are gonna love it! The wife? I'm not so sure... I'll let ya know how it turns out. |
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There are many paths to the top of the mountain, but the view is always the same.
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Yes, Goran is fine, he soon forgot about it, Had a good look at him and he has not been marked
Two Moons, i said i would Kill the Dogs then come for the Farmer, did not say i would kill him, to the fellows
I went out to kill the one when i mis hit it, I hope it does not happen again we will see tomorrow morning when i go by the farm
Steve |
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give goran a fuss from me!!!! poor little lad hope he is ok |
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Hi Steve: What a way to ruin a nice mornings walk. I'm glad Goran is OK. JRTs can be such nasty little dogs. |
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Steve glad to hear Goran was ok- we had a similar attack 3 weeks ago by two beagles from down the street (again always running the neighbourhood) Once thought he was invincible - the other thought he could fly. Turned out the flight was only momentary (via boot) and the other felt his mortality watching watching the hit the ground.
It's funny how so many owners of these little dogs have no issue letting them run, and funnier how savage these little ones can be in attacking other dogs.
My wife always carries bear spray when walking Kaiya - and thats a sad thing to have to do when you spend the time and effort to ensure your pet is well behaved and then you have people like that.
You should get proof of vacinations from this person.If they're not taking any responsibility for their pets actions I would be worried about their level of care for vacinations..
~Res |
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Steve glad to hear Goran was ok- we had a similar attack 3 weeks ago by two beagles from down the street (again always running the neighbourhood) Once thought he was invincible - the other thought he could fly. Turned out the flight was only momentary (via boot) and the other felt his mortality watching the other hit the ground.
It's funny how so many owners of these little dogs have no issue letting them run, and funnier how savage these little ones can be in attacking other dogs.
My wife always carries bear spray when walking Kaiya - and thats a sad thing to have to do when you spend the time and effort to ensure your pet is well behaved and then you have people like that.
You should get proof of vacinations from this person.If they're not taking any responsibility for their pets actions I would be worried about their level of care for vacinations..
~Res |
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Dont know if you can get the sort of Sprays here you Guys talk about, I have never given it any thought before regards carrying anything,
Its difficult to use your Boot when your holding the Dog in one hand,
And one dog has hold of the Pup at the back end and the other at the front. at the same time
But both will be a bit sore now i expect
I dont suppose hitting a brick wall made it happy or a chop on the nose for the other one or side of the jaw in that area anyway, pity i had not got just a little lower
Still thats the way it is with some people with Dogs, they think no one else or there Dogs count
I told 'Goran' he has a small Fan Club in the USA
Steve |
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I've had similar problems where I live too. In fact the place we live at now, we are on the third floor of a triplex. When we moved in the people in number two below us had a female gsd. I would have loved for our dogs to be friends. Spunky was eight months old at the time and used to playing with other dogs. Every time number two let their dogs (gsd and a lab mix) out to potty, they were loose. Spunky was repeatedly attacked as I walked her and Nenz outside (Nenz just wanted to smell the neighbor's dog's butt).
They were still living here when Nenz died and we got Fluffy. I was afraid the same thing would happen again. Sure enough, one day my daughter and I were out walking our leashed dogs and as we came home, number two's gsd Layla came tearing around the corner and leaped onto Fluffy, who was 5 months old at the time and immediately started screaming in terror. The attack was so sudden my 5 year old daughter lost hold of the leash and Layla pinned Fluffy down, snarling and snapping at her.
I decided to break the leash law and let Spunky go. She let out a loud yell and jumped on Layla, hackles up and snarling. Layla was surprised and Spunky backed her all the way back up the steps to her door. Finally the owner came out and I told him I only let my dog go on his dog because his dog attacked our poodle. Since he wasn't drunk he was not confrontational, a surprise. He patted Spunky on the head and told his dog to make friends now. They recently moved and I must say I don't miss them as neighbors.
Fluffy was terrified of other dogs for a while and Spunky is suspicous of strange dogs after the attacks she endured as well. Fluffy is better now but I have to steer clear of other dogs when out, if Fluffy acts afraid, the Spunky goes nuts and wants to fight whoever Fluffy is scared of. Since Fluffy is a standard poodle, at 6 months she is already almost as big as Spunky but she is a wuss. When this attack happened, we had only had Fluffy for a few days and I was surprised at how protective Spunky was of her already. |
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LOL Did Spunky get fluffed for saving her? |
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I would walk somewhere else for a while. |
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Its okay to walk somewhere else, and the Dogs welfare is paramount we all know that
But what do we Dog people who control our Dogs do then,
We simply give way to those people who do not look after there Dogs, and the fact is then they are dictating as to what we can, and cannot do,When we have done nothing wrong
I do not intend changing my route for anyone, because it is along the main road and my reason for this is too acustom yjr Pup to Lorries , Tractors, and motorbikes, I like to sit him down and watch the traffic go by every morning fot five minutes
Both Our Dogs go the Opposite way on the route, we meet somewhere along it on a quiet country road, Fred the older one is told to AF 'down' one side of the road, Goran is told to do the same the opposite side of the road, they down for about five minutes then we go out own way, This happens every morning, and is good for both Dogs
If it happens to me again and i can see the Gates open, a little difficult until you get level with them, i will back track and take the Pup home then i will go to see the Farmer as soon as he comes in, if he is there so much the better, I will not be dictated to when i an not at fault and i will not hide or change to suit the likes of this fellow or anyone else |
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A man need never revenge himself for his own misdeeds, there are plenty of enemies waiting in the weeds for an exc use.
There are many paths to the top of the mountain, some honest and some by deception and con, and it is those which have a certain and swift path straight downward to the bottom.
Gen Sun Tzao, The Art of War.
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Preston
I am not revenging myself at all. I just do not bow down to the likes of the Farmer because he thinks he can leave his gates open for his dogs to hassle and attack other dogs and people
I have my own form of justice if everything else fails, and it will not be a nice one, I do not think and i hope it will not come to that but if it does then so be it, I will not deviate from my training route that i have done for the last 15 months, not for the farmer or anyone else
Right or wrong thats the way it is, I have not caused any hassle to any other person or to any other Dog,
Nor have my Dogs its not me who is at fault
and it will not be me who will give way, only over my dead body will that ever happen, thats for sure
its easy to back down and turn the other cheek, i have done that many times in my life when i was young to save trouble , but it got me no where except more trouble, and why, because the ones you ,let get away with it think you are frightened of them when you are not,
That is how bullying starts at school and makes a life a misery for some Children, and it will carry with them after school if not put a stop to
When i was at School, i was very small fellow, not big now, but i was bullied by one fellow twice my size, this went on for over a year, life was not nice in side and outside of School
Then i said to myself one day stand and fight
the next day it started as soon as i got to school, then i said to the Bully and his Cronies i have had enough, i will see you after school outside the premises
i waited for him, and as he walked ourside sticking his face into mine saying to me, i am going to give you a hiding,
Next second he was on the ground i kneed him in the nether regions, that was it ,as he went to get up i hit him in the face, i think each time i hit him about four times in the face until he said enough, but he got another one for good measure afterwards
Never any more trouble for me at School
My next episode was when i was 18 years old, i was walking through an archway a fellow who lived opposite me hit me on the head for no reason with a rusting frying pan it went down to my shoulders cutting my neck badly 14 stiches in that encounter and me just minding my own business,
i never allowed anything ever to happen like that again to this present day
That has not happened now for over three quarters of my life, i stand up and be counted and so must the one who is at the other end
Steve |
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Stonehaus, "fluffed" not sure what you mean.......she got lots of treats, and let's just say i don't feel worried about any other dog bothering fluffy when her big sis spunk is with. i really don't like having wussy dogs, one reason i would never have chosen a poodle myself. my boyfriend and our daughter wanted a cute, friendly dog, and that is what they got. she's a cute friendly wuss, lol. |
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Steve, you got lucky. You can punt a jack if you need to. One of my clients was out walking their very soft 5 month old rott puppy and they got brutally attacked by 2 malamutes. They each had one end of him and were trying to disembowel him as he lay on his back screaming. The woman threw herself over her puppy and screamed for help until some neighbors spooked the dogs off, one of the dogs caught her hand and punctured right through her finger. 45 minutes earlier they had tried tearing a labrador in 2. They were picked up by the police later chasing deer, one ran back home and being tazed 2 times.
Now I recommend to my clients, if they are afraid any dogs in their neighborhood, to buy some muzzle spray and keep it on hand. |
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Ah!
The Jack Russell...............
The first & only breed of dog I have had the pleasure of getting bit by...
Two at once, one bit me in the front of my leg that was the first mutt and then the mutt
standing behind me took a bite, I knocked on her door, I was delivering mail & she needed
to sign for a letter, I didn't even make any fast moves.
The lady was actually a breeder of these little pieces of crap......
There was also a big black lab walking around near me, he was very friendly,
thank GOD!
Ah.....memories............................. |
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I really like Blitzen's approach,
jump around & look crazy,
I think that could come naturally to me
I like the way the neighbors want to pick up their dogs & run away!
It reminds me many years back, before the high fence with the gate that locks,
some Jehovah witnesses came walking in my yard & started preaching, my son
a teenager at the time, just started chopping things with an axe & making funny
noises, I just couldn't contain myself, not to mention, they didn't stay very long....... |
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Steve1, my comments were not directed at you at all, but were in reply to singsomemoresam's nonesense. You certainly have the right to protect yourself and your dogs when you walk on a public road or sidewalk and use a leash. I recommend using a measured appropriate response. Here's the method I have used.
When I used to walk my young dogs in an area where folks didn't leash their dogs, I always carried a can of pepperspray with a 15 foot spray range, and a 10 pound steel topped walking cane with a spike at the bottom. No dogs ever kept on coming past the narrow stream of pepperspray directed at them. They hated that stuff. If they had I also carried a small cattle prod too. I was walking a young puppy once and a big mutt came out teeth bared and was going to bite me, not my puppy. He stopped and turned the second he got hit with the pepper stream in the face, put his tail between his legs and ran back home. From then on when he even saw me coming he would put his tail between his legs and head for home. Even if he wasn't disciplined, he was fairly intelligent.
It always shocked me how many folks didn't care for their dogs and would let them run loose causing trouble in the neighborhood, violating leash laws, tipping over garbagecans, harassing other owners walking their dogs, and even getting hit by cars. And it appeared that most of these dogs weren't fed well or cared for very well either. These same folks didn't discipline their own kids either. Very sad indeed. Uninformed, ignorant, uncaring dog owners are almosts as bad as uninformed, ignorant, uncaring and greedy amateur dog breeders. |
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Steve1,
Good for you! I've been trying to tell some of the 'purists" on this site about the advantage of long hair on GSD's. I had a situation a few years back when a twenty-something dumb ass set his large white pit bull loose on my two long haired GSD's. My big one beat the pit off the jump. He went low before the pit could get underneath him and he pinned the pit's upper body to the ground like it was nailed with spikes. My other long hair jumped on the back of the pit and was dining on his neck. The owner freaked and yelled for mine to get off of his hapless terrier. What he didn't know was mine had three years of intensive protection training and to them this was like recess in the yard at prison. Just another day in the life of two lifers. And the reason neither of mine got hurt was their training and their long hair. So more power to you and your pup.
MaxVonPotterdam |
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Did Blitzen actually recognize the fact that long hair is a useful, desirable, advantageous trait on a GSD? A few months ago she was enumerating the reasons why this was a definite No No on the breed. Guess there might be room in this ever shrinking world for a GSD that's not an AKC show dog, a West German show dog, or a DDR working dog. Learn something new every day. Stay tuned sports fans there's updates every hour! I don't carry mace, a bat, etc... because other people's dogs are quick to charge my two but quicker to call it quits when mine show their grills. We keeps it real up in this joint, real sharp! And it's always a stupid terrier or spaniel that ventures into the street when we go walking. They may as well jump a lowland gorilla - same result, a big can of whoop ass.
MaxVonPotterdam |
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Can't fix stupid, 4 pack. |
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So, 4pack, according to you all Long Hairs are over sized rejects of the Breed
They may be rejected for 'Breeding 'by the powers to be, but where does the over size come into anything
My Pup sure is not over sized in fact the opposite
and one thing is very sure to me is that my Pup has more brains, than you have got in that over sized empty head of yours, with those sort of remarks
You need to grow up and start to fill that head of yours with some knowledge which is benificial to the breed.
Steve |
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Stevie 1 dur,
I think you might want to re read what 4 pack posted in regards to Max's big bad fight dawgs.
How is a Europe these days? You can thank America later ;)
RPK |
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Rat Pack king.
Europe is Fine the USA on its knees we here Man for Man size of country, its no conest the USa would Bow down to superioers, More so when they have Arrogant fools like you shouting off the big mouths, Put your Money where your mouth is Come over and find out if you think we are inferior. I met some of your people over here in the 60's at the USa Greenham Base, The Big Mouths turndc out as i expected
The civil quiet Guys got on well they were the Proffesionals, not the Mouthy ones. You have not yet won any War to my Knowledge,
Started plenty thats easy, Keep Wars out of the Forum, and how good you people are because things have a habit of back firing, and i doi not mean with guns as you well know and the other fellow can answer for himself
Steve |
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steve1 I wasn't speaking to you or about your dogs. MVP is an idiot that is all gung ho about letting his dogs go at it with street mongrels and his neighbors pets. If he has such anger management issues he should go swing at the loose dogs owners and plop his own rear in jail, to keep his dogs free and out of harms way. His swaggering does nothing for the breed and YES 140lb GSD's sre grossly over sized and he loves to brag on how hairy and huge his dogs are. I wonder sometimes if it's really his dogs he is braging on?  |
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Steve- I owned a Jack ONCE. lol It was the nastiest little bitch I ever owned. I swore she was possessed. Everytime the front door would open she'd jet threw your legs and out the door she'd go, she dug under the fence we installed and even rubbed her e-collar right off her neck to bypass the invis. fence we had in the backyard. There was no way you could catch her until she decided to come back. I had trouble with her wanting to fight dogs-ANY SIZE dog, she chased cars too and didn't like kids much either. My mother had bought her for my daughter as a birthday present and we never understood why she had such a nasty disposition when we raised her as a pup. The only person she liked was me even though I began hating her. I finally had to get rid of her after she nipped my little girl in the face. It was either find her a suitable home or turn her into cat food. lol
I can related to the rage you had to have felt when your dog got attacked out of no where. Just 2 days ago my 8 yr old was playing tennis or something at the neighbor's house across the street and all of a sudden this med. sized mutt started chasing them out of no where, my daughter panicked and was affraid enough that she began running home but the dog was pretty fast and managed to start jumping at her side clawing her before she was able to make it to the house, I'm in the kitchen and she runs in screaming like someone killed her and I panicked when I saw blood coming from her side. I calmed us both down, took a look at it and asked her what happend. She said she didn't think the dog bit her just clawed her.She told me the story and I put on my shoes and went out on a mission to find the owner. As I'm coming down my driveway I see the pick up truck with the doors ready to fall off coming down the road slowly and a man stops in front of my house...I was FLAMING MAD, the man asked if I saw a "little white dog running loose?" I said no, but I imagine it's the same "little white dog" that clawed my daughter and ripped open her side and chased her all the way home...he ignores me as my daughter lifts her shirt to show him the wound. He never even apologized which made me even more CRAZY, he then proceeds to ask if I know which direction it went and I told him hopefully towards the highway to chase a tractor trailer, the idiot then says "well if you see her I live at xyz and would appreciate it if you bring her home?" I told him if I see her I'll bring her home in the same condition my daughter came home in. I guess that made HIM mad and he says "listen lady I don't know why you're making a big deal about this, the cut is not that bad and it's a little dog, she just wanted to "play". At that point I just had to walk away shaking my head in disbelief.
I uderstand "things happen" but as a dog owner you must accept responsibility for your pets even when "things just happen". An apology at best would have at least brought my estrogen levels down a notch. lol
Glad to hear your pup is fine!
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Agar
The Pup is Fine, I went to see the Farmer when he had finished work, i told him what happened, He said the Dogs do not normally get out, but they were no viscious,
I said they certainly were, and showed him the Graze on my hand now healing of what one's teeth had done, plus i told him of Goran, He said it was passed,
I said Yes so long as it does not happen again, If it does then i will do what i have to do, and then i will look for him
Right or Wrong i do not bother how he takes my words they are plain enough i never hedge my bets,
What he does or thinks he can do about it it not my concern, I will deal with it the best way i know how to.
Consqueses do not bother me one bit, Providing i keep safe and defend what is mine
Steve |
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"Consqueses do not bother me one bit, Providing i keep safe and defend what is mine"
I couldn't agree with you more!
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