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Royal Canin Availability Problem?
by Renofan2 on 21 March 2008 - 13:03


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Is anyone else having trouble finding Royal Canin GSD Food?  My Pet store has been out for almost 3 weeks now.  Finally on Wednesday they told me that the manufacturer was having trouble getting packaging, so product is made, but cannot be packaged and distributed.

I checked 3 other pet stores and finally found one that has one last bag which I am picking up today, but was just wondering if anyone else is experiencing this as well?

I am in the Northeast - 35 minutes west of philadelphia.

Cheryl


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by Bob-O on 21 March 2008 - 13:03


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I experienced this same issue several years ago. Royal Canin makes plenty of dog food, but I think you will agree that it is a bit of a specialty item for pet food stores hence they tend to not stock much more than a single pallet of the food. When this happened to me on a few occassions I questioned the employees of a local PetSmart. Each time I asked to speak to the store's manager I was directed to someone who was obviously a regular employee to voice my concerns.

Funny though; after hearing the bunk mantra "we only get about two (2) or three (3) bags with each shipment" three (3) times I went to that company's website and posted my comments and concerns. Within one (1) or two (2) days I received a telephone call from the store's manager who was a bit distraught after being contacted by upper management about my comments. I repeated to her what her employees told me, and she promised to keep it in stock for me. She kept her word and I never missed it again.

So in short, you may need to do as I did. I knew that the food was shipped on complete pallets of about sixteen (16) bags so I never bought the "two (2) or three (3) bags" part of the answer. In my case, it was all about speaking to the person who could do something about the situation, and maybe it will be the same for you. I would give that a try.

Regards,

Bob-O


Royal Canin Availability Problem?
by hodie on 21 March 2008 - 14:03
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I tried to order yesterday from my distributor and indeed, they have no GSD24 variety available because of the problems noted by the first poster above. I have also contacted the company and was told this is in fact the problem. I was told it might be first week of April before I can get my order of 30 bags......that is about one months order!

In the meantime, I will feed their large breed variety which I also feed to boarding dogs. I could also feed the Maxi Light variety for a week or so and it would not hurt as the really cold/windy winter has allowed the dogs to put on an extra pound or two.

I am sure things will be back to normal quickly.


Royal Canin Availability Problem?
by Vikram on 21 March 2008 - 14:03


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Royal Canin is coming out with some new packaging. They have done so in other parts of the world for other food of theirs.

 

I'm pretty sure that GSD 24 is soming with new packaging and higher price:)

 

cheers

 


Royal Canin Availability Problem?
by Vikram on 21 March 2008 - 14:03


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Royal Canin is coming out with some new packaging. They have done so in other parts of the world for other food of theirs.

 

I'm pretty sure that GSD 24 is soming with new packaging and higher price:)

 

cheers

 


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by hodie on 21 March 2008 - 15:03
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 The price for MAxi GSD24 has already risen over and over and over in the last year. My cost per bag as a distributor is now more than $36 per bag. In stores, it is much higher. They also put the Maxi Light in a new bag, cut the weight and raised the price.


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by Renofan2 on 21 March 2008 - 16:03


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I paid $38.00 a few months ago, but the last few bags were priced at $42.00 per bag.  I get one free bag for every 10 bags, but if goes any higher, I am going to have to rethink what I am feeding.  I completely ran out and fed them Taste of The Wild - bison, but got a little worried as Libby's stomach woke me up in the middle of the night - gurgling very loudly.  I was up all night watching her as her father died from bloat and I am aware of at least 3 siblings (all females) that bloated, but luckily survived with surgery.  Libby is fine, but I am feeding very small portions throughout the day to make sure it does not cause her a problem.

Cheryl


Royal Canin Availability Problem?
by Bob-O on 21 March 2008 - 20:03


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Cheryl, Hodie, thanks for the information. I don't buy very much-about one (1) bag per week so I guess I do not feel the pinch from it that others do. I noticed that the bag type has changed, but I really paid no attention to it. I can say this though; all kibble bags are not created equal. My short stint in the dog food industry taught me that even minor changes and/or defects in the construction of a bag cause severe throughput issues with the bag hanging/filling/sealing equipment.

"Maintenance-Baghanger Line 2", "Maintenance-Baghanger Line 2" Wow, I can still mentally hear those telecom pages! I agree that the cost continues to increase, and of course some of that is caused by increases to the cost of OTR transportation as well as higher prices for corn due to the Methanol surge.

Another thing I noticed during my time there was that the cheif ingredient for most dog foods (corn) was purchased through the futures market for a set contract price. Of course a new contract is negotiated each year and that is when the major price increase hits. My last days in the dog food industry were in June 2007, and I remember well a high-volume brand made there was priced at $8.99 for fifty (50) pounds. I saw some of this in the grocery store the other day and the preprinted price was more than $11.00. So within ten (10) months the price rose more than 20%. I realize that a large component of Royal Canin is poultry, but of course they are fed corn as well and it is purchased the same way. 

Regards,

Bob-O


Royal Canin Availability Problem?
by DoubleX on 21 March 2008 - 21:03
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I have been unable to get Royal Canin Rabbit and Potato canned for the last several weeks, and I've been told by my vet that it will likely be unavailable until May.  Supposedly it is an ingredient issue.  My female, who has corn allergies, eats it, but I am able to substitute other brands.

A bigger is issue is the repeated problem I have had getting Royal Canin Lowfat/Low Fiber canned, the only food my male who has inflammatory bowel disease and lymphangeictasia can tolerate.  It has been backordered for more than a month on two occasions in the last year with no explanation.  I got the smoke and mirrors routine both times when I called their customer service number.  They offered each time to send me a free case when it became available, which they did.  However, a free case a month after my dog runs out of food is not particularly helpful.  I need a consistent source of food for him, not a lot of tap dancing.

A number of people on the IBD website I frequent often complain about Royal Canin and their rather cavalier attitude about the food they supply, especially to dogs with serious health problems.  No one seems to have an idea of what to do about it.

 


Royal Canin Availability Problem?
by k9sar on 21 March 2008 - 22:03
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cheryl,

 I will check locally. If I find any, would you want me to pick it up for you?

 

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by Renofan2 on 21 March 2008 - 22:03


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Sara:

Yes, that would be great if you come across some.  I did pick up the bag they were holding for me at Pet Value.  The price there is $46.99, however it is worth it as switching their food has caused stomach upsets.  Falon now has diarrehea from the Taste of the Wild Food. 

I got the last bag at Petco, but intend to make some more calls tomorrow to see if I can come across some more.  I work about 2 hours away - in North Jersey and will check a few pet stores up there on Monday.  Wish I would  have thought about that yesterday.

Cheryl

 


Royal Canin Availability Problem?
by Domenic on 21 March 2008 - 23:03
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Here in Toronto Ontario Canada I am paying 6200 for a 30 pound bag of the Royal Canin GS24.What a drastic price difference and WHY


Royal Canin Availability Problem?
by Domenic on 21 March 2008 - 23:03
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Oh yea,plus 13% tax of course


Royal Canin Availability Problem?
by hodie on 22 March 2008 - 03:03
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 Just heard from my distributor late this afternoon that my order of the Maxi Light is also unavailable. So I will take this opportunity to look into other foods. RC has been a good food for me for the past 5 plus years, but they continue to shoot themselves in the foot and I cannot have these kinds of problems.

 

Dominic, your GSD 24 is only 30 lbs, and not 35lbs? I hope they are not cutting the weight per bag like they just did with the Maxi Light...... And are you saying you are paying $62 Canadian dollars per bag?  

How are you?


Royal Canin Availability Problem?
by LeNore on 22 March 2008 - 07:03
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Something I have noticed about RC. We get those large roach type bugs, in Florida they are called Palmetto Bugs. Some call them Wood Roachs. Anyways, here lately I have been finding them in the open bag of RC ( they do tend to come in the house when the screen door is left open or it is dry out) I keep my dogfood under the cabinet with a child safety latch. Anyways, here lately, especially with this last bag of food, the palmetto bugs I have been finding are dead in the bag??? I am sure they crawled in while the food was under the cabinet but why are they dying in there? Makes me worry about feeding it to my GS and in fact threw out a bag recently because of this. I dont have this problem with any of the other dog or cat foods in the house. I have Biljack for another GSD and Pedigree small bites for the little dog in the house. I went to wally world yesterday and bought sealable containers for the food so no more palmetto bugs in the food.

Therese


Royal Canin Availability Problem?
by hodie on 22 March 2008 - 14:03
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 LeNore,

Get serious. The bugs die because they are ready to die and if they did not die in the open bag, they would be dying elsewhere in your house. Find a way to keep the food in a closed container anytime there is a potential for vermin to get into the food. In that way, you can also prevent your dogs from getting ill.


Royal Canin Availability Problem?
by Domenic on 22 March 2008 - 21:03
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Hodie,hi sweety,YES 30lbs and YES 6200 canadian plus taxes.I am good ,How are you keeping young lady?Hope all is well with you.Happy Easter and i will pm you as well.


Royal Canin Availability Problem?
by hodie on 23 March 2008 - 01:03
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Wow Dominic,,,,,,, You are buying Royal Canin Maxi GSD 24 in 30 lb bags? For 62 Canadian dollars (and the Canadian and American dollar are just about equal last time I checked, unlike the Euro.....)!!!! Geez, our bags HAVE been 35 lbs and in store costs have been about $42.00. So I guess the first question I would be asking is where are you buying this? I wonder if there is some sort of tariff on food produced in the US, as this might be. Does RC have a Canadian plant? I don't know without looking it up. I like the food, but if they continue to raise the price I too will look at other alternatives like Solid Gold, Breeders' Choice, Wellness....but last time I checked all of those foods too were pricey and prices going up and up. 

Happy Easter to you too!!! I hope the Easter Bunny brings you something nice!

regards!

 


Royal Canin Availability Problem?
by steve1 on 23 March 2008 - 16:03
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I for one would not care if the stuff was taken off the shelves full Time

Theres far better than that available to your Dogs, unless you like feeding them fillers

Steve


Royal Canin Availability Problem?
by hodie on 23 March 2008 - 17:03
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 steve1,

To each his own. I have fed this food for more than 5 years to hundreds of dogs, including my own. They all look great. You are ill informed.


Royal Canin Availability Problem?
by gsdsch3v on 23 March 2008 - 17:03


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I suspect that there is a difference between the european formula and the american.  I bought a small over priced bag when on vacation.  We had run out of proplan, and were having trouble finding more.  I ended up throwing the majority of it away.  I put a lot more effort into finding the proplan.  I found the proper panel on the bag and found out that the ingredients were corn for the first three.  Amazingly the digestive issue ceased when we went back to the proplan.  I would have to agree with steve1 on the european stuff.

Colleen


Royal Canin Availability Problem?
by steve1 on 23 March 2008 - 17:03
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Hodie

I do not know what the Stuff contains over there but here it has beet filler the remains of sugar beet, just to bulk it up

and no; i am not misinformed, i have been feeding Dogs for over 50 years so i do know a little of what i am talking about

Plus look at the amount of Dry Kibble Dog foods called back in from your country, and this is one of them and more than once

As i said there is better about , more so if you want to disregard fillers, and a lot of unneccessary grains

The bag looks pretty, its what is inside i do not like, but each to there own


Royal Canin Availability Problem?
by hodie on 23 March 2008 - 18:03
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You are misinformed. I don't care how old you are. If you don't like it, don't feed it. What you get where you live may or may not be the same. The proof is in the pudding as far as I am concerned and I dare say I have fed this food to many, many more dogs than you, for a long, long time, and the dogs do well on it and for long periods of time. If you don't like it, fine. There are lots of things I would like to see taken off the shelf in your country or out of your restaurants....


Royal Canin Availability Problem?
by steve1 on 23 March 2008 - 21:03
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Hodie

By the tone of your writing it seems you are getting a bit shirty, meaning the point of being rude

Never sumise nothing when you do not know the facts, Better to say nothing if your blood pressure is going to go up for no reason, This is what i have said on another thread,

A person cannot post a letter even in a civilised way to some of you people ,

Words from you mean nothing , its only to be expected  by the way you reply that you would know more about the subject than some one else from another country, Thank goodness most of your counrymen do not have the same thoughts or asprations as yourself

And what country are you refering too when you say you would like products taken off the shelf and from the restaurants

I guess you mean England ,because thats what i am an Englishman bred through the gernerations steming back to the Vikings

Say what you will the dog food as had as many recalls in the USA as much or more than most, and there is better on the market without any recalls at all,

And It seems to me you are not even aware of what goes in the make up of Dog food

Have a good day

Steve


Royal Canin Availability Problem?-It happened today to me!
by Bob-O on 25 March 2008 - 23:03


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So much for my "well, this is how I did it" diatribe. I today went into the Petsmart to purchase my weekly thirty-five-pound sack, and alas-none to be found. I looked at the six-pounders and mentally priced the contents-too much. So, I walked from the store with a large sack of Bil-Jac Select.

I inquired, and was informed that the store is receiving but one (1) sack of Maxi GSD-24 per week. I agree-the delivery of Royal Canin's blend must improve, and I will write them an e-letter.

Regards,

Bob-O


Royal Canin Availability Problem?
by hodie on 26 March 2008 - 01:03
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 I had an email from Royal Canin today and supposedly the food is in the distributor warehouses, or very soon will be. I hope so, as I only have a few bags left.

How are you doing Bob-O?

regards!


Royal Canin Availability Problem?
by Bob-O on 26 March 2008 - 04:03


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Hi Sharyn! Bob is fine-just boning up for a Calculus test. I thought I left this behind more than twenty-five (25) years ago. Gee; what could be more fun? I am being sarcastic of course. Maybe I should graph some elementary functions to see if the Royal Canin situation follows any other business of political (this year) trend and see is there is a relationship? Nah, I just closed the Big Book and am repairing for bed.

I just sent my comments to Royal Canin; described by personal findings and asked; "a" what is their proposed solution, and "b" what is their timetable of action? They have been punctual with replies in the past, so I will read what they have to say and later post it on this message board.

Regards,

Bob-O


Royal Canin Availability Problem?-Reply received
by Bob-O on 26 March 2008 - 23:03


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26, March 2008-The reply recieved from Royal Canin:

Thank you for contacting Royal Canin, as every question or comment is important to us.  In regards to your question the Maxi German Shepherd is in stock in our warehouse and available for stores to order.  In regards to price increase, we had a price increase back in January due to the raw material prices went up as well as the price of gas.  Unfortunately with these prices increasing it causes the production of the product to increase as well because it cost more to make the formulas.  I would be happy to add you to our mailing list which will include coupons to help off set the cost of the product.  If this is of interest, please respond with history to this email with your name, address and pet info.  Also we have a consumer rewards program, you will want to save the UPC bar codes as well as the receipts once you collect 10 mail those in and you will receive a coupon for a free bag of the same size.  If you need further assist please let us know.

Best regards,
Kate

Royal Canin USA, Inc



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Someone has contacted you from your website:

Name: Robert Forbus
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Email: Robert.Forbus@robertforbus.com

Comments:
I was today not able to purchase Royal Canin Maxi 24 GSD and was told by the store's manager that they (the store) were only recieving one (1) bag of the Royal Canin Maxi 24 GSD per week. I have used this blend for many years on my GSD breedline with good results.

The price of the Royal Canin food continues to climb and there is occassional scarcity of the food in the retail stores. I do understand after speaking with other GSD people that they are experiencing the same poor service and price acceleration by Royal Canin and/or its distributors. What are we breeders supposed to do?

Tonight I had to purchase a 40-pound sack of Bil-Jac Select to hold me until ea


Royal Canin Availability Problem?
by ilovemypoodlefluffy on 27 March 2008 - 00:03
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I remembered reading this thread a couple days ago. I have been considering trying it with Spunky after all the good things I have read about it, so I checked to see if Petco had it yesterday. Nope. The guy that I talked to there did point out they had the Eukanuba German Shepherd. I said, "no, I really want the Royal Canin" and he claims they will have more in Monday. I got a coupon for a free bag of Royal Canin puppy food when I registered Spunky with the AKC and the Royal Canin large breed puppy bag we got was gulped down in obvious enjoyment. I would like to see how Spunky does on Royal Canin German Shepherd. Very interesting thread.


Royal Canin Availability Problem?
by Sharon9624 on 08 April 2008 - 20:04


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I am on the breeder pro line program and my rep told me about the availibility problem it has to do with a problem with inner lining part of the bags. They are working on getting the problem fixed or it may even be fixed now.

 


Royal Canin Availability Problem?
by deacon on 09 April 2008 - 04:04


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>  I have read and revued it also. I want to go to the city and ask permission to have them order it from our vet for both our PSDs. I am worried though if we will have problems keeping it stocked.


Royal Canin Availability Problem?
by hodie on 09 April 2008 - 21:04
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 I believe the problem was temporary and I have received a large order this week ; 4/8/08. I have already placed an order for next week.


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by MVF on 10 April 2008 - 02:04
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At Petsmart in Saratoga Springs, NY, the shelves were well stocked with Royal Canin today.


Royal Canin Availability Problem?
by susanandthek9s on 10 April 2008 - 14:04
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LeNore, you are right on target. If the bugs are not dying in the bags of the other pet food, and they are dying in the Royal Canin bag, you have to wonder about what's wrong with the Royal Canin. I was using the Royal Canin German Shepherd food for my GSDs and their coats looked like hell--huge clumps of ratty fur coming out, and faded pigment. I thought they were just shedding unusually heavy coats. Then the RC became unavailable, and I heard that there was a problem with one of the ingredients. I switched to Eukanuba Sporting Dog, and the difference has been unbelievable. The dogs' coats are shedding normally, their pigment is rich again, and the dogs are full of energy and acting great. It makes me wonder what was wrong with the RC.


Royal Canin Availability Problem?
by Bob-O on 11 April 2008 - 02:04


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All I can say is to repeat that I have used this food for many years for GSD's of all ages and still do. Mine all have nice coats, soft skin, healthy eyes, and firm dark stools. I realize that some dogs do not tolerate certain foods well, but I remain convinced that it is a good food for my five (5) present dogs.

By the way, as of the past week the local store had plenty of the food.

Regards,

Bob-O











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