LOL - more than 1 - less than 4. Those "moderators" lose their minds when I SCREEN CAPTURE their webpages and put them on my website. I don't usually bother to ASK PERMISSION. I just do it!
You don't like that? ---- I have pity for you.
So dumbdawg - let's bang heads ........ you got a REAL NAME, or is your fantasy "harddawg"?
I'm ready anytime you are, putz.
Steve Leigh (been using my real name my whole life)
Who are you to say how Ed Frawley runs his own website, It is entirely up to him in what rules he makes and if the board users do not like it including yourself ,then do not participate in it.
It seems that you do look at it regular to pick holes in it .Grow up and stop acting like a small child
And just to anwser any question you may have regards myself , i do not live in the USA and i do not know Ed Frawley
But i do like to see fair play, and you do not play fair
The good news is, at least some of you CAN laugh. That's a step in the right direction.
I'm not obsessed - I find a lot of things to be very funny, sometimes even absurd. Sometimes I write about them, sometimes I don't.
Maybe some of you "harddawgs" or "get a real dawg" folks just don't see the humor - but plenty of other people do.
I was going to make some comedy from here, too - there's some REAL funny stuff going on here on pedigreedatabase - but I captured some of it, and it's a real pain in the ass to edit.
By now, the WFFCW is almost a national monument. If you "pro trainers" don't think so, that's OK - thousands of people have sent emails saying it's hysterical.
Maybe some of you guys are just uptight - what's wrong? Dog problems? Trouble training? Car won't start?
Get a sense of humor, y'all. Laughter doesn't hurt.
It strikes me that you seem to find it impressive that you can screen capture a website and than post it on your website with a critique. Don't you have anything better to do with your time? Instead of criticizing other individual websites, here is a thought, why not actually create a website of your own with your own information about dog training (or any other subject) instead of just criticizing someone else's work.
You don't like Ed Frawley - bully for you. You don't have to like him. However, I have to agree with others that you probably need to get a little personal introspection as to why after so many years you are still harping on him and posting your critiques of his website on numerous dog boards. It is not normal for someone to act as you act in regards to this issue.
Well , lets try the Steve Leigh thing ON Steve! He seems to have a good thing going so he says, so maybe he will appreciate it if we follow suit after him. Here is some infro from his website, MY responses are in red. Steves crud is in blue.
"Rebecca and I did everything together. "
Really Steve Did she hold your hemmorhoids in when you took a dump? How about when you dug deep into the caverns of that big nose of yours? Did she always pick the winner? Why wasnt she there with you when it was haircut day? God knows she would have suggested you clean yourself up!
"When I played sessions, she'd sit next to the Hammond, curl up on the sofa in the control room, or sit on the piano bench with me." No doubt she was waiting for you to get done with the weed & LSD so she could get her next fix. I mean come one Steve, there was a reason she was up your ass and it wasnt because she adored you pal.
"We fished, built custom fishing rods, worked on and rigged our bass boats, built recording studios, collected guns, went shooting, reloaded incalculable rounds of ammo."
Stock piling for the next civil war buddy? Did yourig your bass boats with booby-traps for the race war? The 2 of you do look like Waco Wackos! Get a grip! Its OK.
"We rebuilt and refinished Hammonds and Leslies. We recorded songs, built computers, spent years building Canine Training, our training room, office, and deck, built the kennels, played pool, worked on our cue sticks on the lathe. "
Wow! Thats a funfilled schedule there Steve-a-rino. It obviously was time well spent. I remember popping in a cassette tape of Steve & Rebecca jamming out some kick ass organ tunes , in my convertible & flooring it! Aaahh.. the fresh country air and no cares in the world! Good music! And the Canine Training you spent years on really paid off! The empire is still going strong, raking in all the money! And while you were fixing the Hammonds, Rebecca was working on someone elses cue stick!
"We talked things over and made decisions. We built the ProKeys website together. We invented things, designed things, fabricated things, we always had projects going."
Yes Steve, we know you fabricated LOTS of things. LOL. And just what did you invent? The portable waffle maker that plays karaoke? Please tell us! We are dying to know! Did Rebecca ever tell you about the projects she had going that you didnt know about?
WOW! This IS fun! Thanks for showing us the lights Steve. Im going to pick through some more excerpts and get busy!
I think Mr. Leigh is very funny. Actually much of what he says about Ed is true.
Although Steve might be a frog's hair from a total meltdown....he has forgotten more about dog training than most on this board will ever (or never) know.
Steve, keep up the work bro. Why everyone wants a boring and nice forum I have no idea.
To post shit he said about his wife is within your right of free speech I suppose but what kind of lowlife scum would do something like that? Steve asks for a lot of ridicule I guess but Frawley BEGS for it. At least SOMEONE is willing to put it all on the line and stand up to Edward. Steve dont change a thing. BTW you have a great website.
Schmuckman, the difference between YOU and US is that Rebecca and I HAD. We did things and owned things which schmucks only dream about. YOU have nothing, probably never did.
You're probably a 10 year old - your mommy still whips your kiddy ass for staying out too late. Obviously - by anyone's standards - you're disrespectful towards people you don't know - who were loved and have died.
Maybe you could tell us about one of YOU dead relatives, and I can write your kind of shit, too.
Was your mother a $3 crack whore? Did your step-daddy-of-the-week (you've probably had too many of them to remember their names) pimp her to get her ass out on the street and get his crack, too? Or am I all wrong about that? Maybe your luxurious 2 room ghetto apartment was littered with old needles and empty smack balloons? Nice way to grow up there, Schmuckman! YOU don't have tracks on your arms, do you? 'Fess up - you DO, right?
I LOVE the "Funkman" ..... it almost conjures up pictures of a musician. You're not a musician, are you Schmuckman?
Steve, for mr. mpd to attack you and ridicule your deceased wife who you loved very much and loved you very much, is about as hypocritical as one can get. This man has a very jaded history on this site and has been kicked off many others. He too knows what personal losses are ("I would have saved them if I could"...), and he hasn't dealt with them. He is as sick with this stuff and cruel as one can get and is obsessed with filth, excrement, blood, amputations, trauma, death, etc., always attempting to disguise this stuff as humor. A number of posters here have emailed me in the past with particulars on mr. mpd. Some feel he has stalked them, theatened them and displayed "conduct unbecoming and officer and gentleman". He has complaints filed against him on ripoffreport.com for cheating folks on dog deals and has been kicked off a number of other sites for profanity and continued posts violating rules. I just don't think one can go any lower than attacking one's deceased spouse. It is complete bottom feeder type, true scumbag behavior. I think the man is headed for big trouble eventually, since he seems to be escalating again.
I think your web site is funny, but I do think you should move on. I don't know what EF ever did to you to result in you apparent obsession with him. I think you should get unstuck. If it offends folks that I read your site and laughed a great deal at the time, well too bad.
Steve, I respect your musical talent from the 1970' and 80's. I know you were one of the top, if not the top honky-tonk and blues studio keyboardists in the country. I used to know some folks in the country western music promotion business. I also know at one time you had formidable GSD training knowledge. I hope that you can move on and let some of this stuff go. If there are any more personal attacks against your deceased wife that you loved very much by mr. mpd, PM me and I can share quite a few emails and info with you. If this man has any decency left he will desist this exceedingly cruel and sick behavior.
"I think your web site is funny, but I do think you should move on. I don't know what EF ever did to you to result in you apparent obsession with him. I think you should get unstuck."
I do think it is time to move on. I wouldn't have a problem with Mr. Leigh if he did not come here and other places to pretty much just bag on people. Bagging on Mr. Leigh's wife is further than I would go but once you start putting people down you never know how people are going to react to you. It's just not sane man. MOVE ON.
Steve I for one enjoy your views and theories on training, I am a pretty easy going guy. I would rather hear more of your training philosiphies, ideas and methods please.
Preston, again you obsess on who i am and as always, make no sense. You better go back to net detective school dummy! :) Send Steve ANYTHING you have on me! You have no clue who I am, nobody does. You need some anger management counseling and perhaps are sexually deprived..... Now off you go, back to your dog babble, another issue you have no clue on!
GOD BLESS THE IGNORANT, for they shall inherit the Celery of the Dog Feces.
"Steve I for one enjoy your views and theories on training, I am a pretty easy going guy. I would rather hear more of your training philosiphies, ideas and methods please."
Same here actually. Steve, you do say some interesting things regarding dog training, if only I didnt have to wade through all the Leerburg stuff. ;)
Mike, I know exactly who you are and a number of folks on this site do to. Your MO hasn't changed over the years. IMO, you appear go in cycles, starting with a little abuse and harassment and then escalating to obsessions of abuse and even veiled death threats, as you did with me. I have been told that you have been barred from many sites for the same type of behavior. You have cheated folks on dog deals, using two different slighly changed names (featured on rippoffreport.com under german shepherd complaints, with no rebuttal filed). Allegedly, you have been barred from the AKC now and can never register any dogs there again for cheating folks, and allegedly are now barred from ever registering or transferring any dogs from the SV for not paying for a dog you supposedly imported. Looks like you are all done as a breeder and will never be able to register any puppies again or even transfer registrations.
You are obsessed with fisherman stuff and amputations, and very sick pornographic images. A lot of the time you seem out of control, driven beyond reason. You harassed and threatened DP of Videx to the degree he rarely comes back and in the past have driven many very knowledgable breeders from this site. You made up a whole web site dedicated to demeaning and ridiculing Brittany. Your posts almost always have nothing to do with GSDs or knowledge about breeding, training, showing or their health. You apparently come here only to belittle demean and harass and then disguise it as humor. Almost always your posts degenerate to perverse sexual harassments. I thought once you got your promotion to Capt, you would clean up your act and stop the "conduct unbecoming and officer and a gentleman" as required in the uniform code of military conduct, even if you are in the reserve. Unless you change your ways it's probably only a matter of time before you find yourself in serious trouble. You should be given an award by Oli for the sickest, most perverted posts ever made. Have you no humanity left? I think it's time to make your exit stage left.
Steve, I agree with deacon and puputz, how about no more EF stuff, and just share all your valuable training info with us? I know I would really appreciate that.
Yes, over the years here, many, many different call names. Same MO, same cyclical pattern of abuse with no relation to issues directly related to the GSD breed or purpose of this site. Posts here to abuse others and play mind games.
Thank you for your emails. I sincerely appreciate the respectful statements about Rebecca, my deceased wife.
FWIW, I'm really not what I may appear to be. I'm not at all "obsessed" with Frawley or the other "stars" of the WFFCW. Most of the pages on the WFFCW have been there for several years - sometimes I post a link to a page, thinking, "some people might get a good laugh today!" Apparently, according to my website log files and emails, many people do get a good laugh.
I'm up for serious dog training discussions (I really enjoyed one about muzzle work) - just point me the right way. I'm not much for using message boards, and this one makes me wish I had a 60" screen! Or reading glasses or binoculars, or something.
As to SCUM-MAN ..... with his multiple fake IDs, and his lies about being a "police officer" - I've already received enough mail to believe that "Mike" the SCUM-MAN has no connection at all to law enforcement. It's just a lying internet show to impress people. Problem is, nobody's impressed. Much like Voodoo Louie Castle, some careful reading illutrates the lies.
In 2 private emails, SCUM-MAN has been described using just one, perfect word: "garbage". I think that's a good enough word. After all, garbage IS garbage - why call it anything else?
From the 1st time I saw Steves Site, I laughed my self silly.
I also came away impressed with his knowledge. After speaking to him, I felt very honored to speak to someone with such vast experience, depth & level of committment to dog training as Steve had in his day. We have shared some excellent & even a few heated conversations, But Il always be a Steve supporter. He's funny, he has a way of ridiculing the absurd & those that have No sense of humor..the Omnipotents like Mr. Ed.
Nothing I can do or say can help with the pain or loss. Any fool that would attempt to smear that is beyond help & Reason. I never knew his wife, But Im sure she was a rarity, special & loved. I want to post this as a tribute to her,Steve. This beautiful song was written & sung by someone now deceased who died in obscurity. But Eva's Angelic voice lives. ..
Im obsessed with fisherman stuff and pictures of amputations and porn????????? WTF are you talking about Pretzel? You are quite obviously a bit derranged! Where the hell did you come up with this crazy stuff? This is great! Im getting a beer to enjoy your posts from now on. Can you also make me something great like a very successful rock star? Astronaut? Actually, with all of the info, you post... it seems more like you are paranoid. Grasping at straws in your sic obsession with me... picking up "clues" and trying like Barney Pfife to put them together. Oh my I would pay money to see to befuzled looks on your face when you think you figure things out. Wow, you serisouly do need some help Pretzels. Ill bet you are a member on those conspiracy theory forums too.
OK, does anyone want to look over my fishing collection with me while looking porn starring amputees? :))
Yes, uglydog, you are so correct in your statement.
Nothing I can do or say can help with the pain or loss. Any fool that would attempt to smear that is beyond help & Reason.
Of course, Mike can easily clearing all this up by openly stating who he actually is, whether or not he owns any registered GSDs, has a kennel, etc., etc. But he won't because he has proven himself to be a coward so many times.
It OK zacsmum.. you can come with me and watch "amputee porn", check out my fishing gear and play with all of my other troll names and forum boards. It will be fun!
SCUM-MAN, you really don't know what a loser you are, do you?
Please show evidence of your (alleged) testicles: just answer a simple quesion - what does FUNKman mean? "Funk" is a style of music - you wouldn't happen to be a (crippled) "musician", would you?
Thank you, SCUM-MAN. (Watch the WFFCW for your new page - with all your lies illustrated in red and blue. If you get all confused, just do a search on "funkman" - you'll find it.)
Well thank you for the warning, but i am one to make my own mind up, i dont have the sheep mentality that is so prevalent here. Whilst i agree with you that the sainted one can deal his punches a little below the belt at times, and that there is no need to get so personal about things, on the whole, i quite enjoy reading his postings, and the controversy that they always stir up. It wouldnt do if we were all the same and agreed upon everything. And by the way, my love for the german shepherd dog falls short of breeding countless litters and boasting about their many acheivements, they are, after all, pets, not machines or ego boosters, so how you can question my love for shepherds is beyond me.
zacsmum, you didn't read and comprehend what I said. Do you speak another language than English as your native language. I did not question your love for GSDs. Where did you come up with that ? As far as breeding countless litters and boosting about their achievements, who are you referring to here ?
You think i am going to be drawn in and name names? And yes, English is my native tongue, and i wouldnt expect you to understand well written grammar. I am not in the habit of being spoken to like a moron, so please dont address me like one. If a person cannot be permitted to express their opinion here, just because it differs from all the others, then what is the point of healthy discussion?
Have a pleasant evening, its way past bed time here.
LOL zacsmum. Funny how the Leigh crew gets their granny panties all in a bunch when the same cards are dealt thier way? Steve, you have had an ill obsession with Ed Frawley for years. While I dont like him either.. your pages are certified lunacy. I wouldnt doubt if you dress up as Frawley at night and beat off. The ongoing obession is old and its funny how you throw a tantrum like a baby when you see it happen to you! Wow, how transparent is that! Enjoy more to come, you have shown me the light and its fun! As for Preztels.... I know you want to be a cyber detective / hero but, you need some common sense and an education for that. Ta ta folks, thanks for the laugh!
I don't want to know where you live, I just wondered if you were another nom de plume of mike, by chance, since you just started posting in this thread.
Please see new topic FUNKMAN for the new link to his very own new webpage.
The page is only a tiny beginning. As time (and more facts) become available, FUNKMAN (or Scum-Man or just "garbage") will soon have one whopper of a webpage.
Why on earth does the owner of this website allow such rubbish to be put on his Forum. I do not find it funny i find it pathitic to say the least, I thought i was coming onto a German Shephred Dog site
Not i can verbally abuse you more than you can site, if i owned the site i would banmost of you who are abusing ot
Many of you guys need to grow up or get together and sort out your problems man to man, and give it a rest and get back to the Dog Forum
Personally, I thought it nice to Show Steve Leigh (Princess Leigh-a) fro now on, what it must feel like to be one of his obsessions. Low and behold, just as I predicted, he hates it! LOL. Mission accomplished! Thanks Princess Leigh-a!
Well said. It's a great article but what i am looking for is some great pet or dog portraits. If anybody knows that from where i can get some good dog portraits then i will be very greatfull to him/her.
You goooo Steve : - } It's nice to see that someone else around here gets these people going too LOL. Doesn't take much does it! Any way, I need to check out your site. Sounds interesting...............
The person that ressurected this thread is obviously a spammer, trying to sell pet portraits. (Their first post on the site.)
Now, out of respect for Steve's late wife, and everyone else who comes to this site to talk about DOGS, could we please let this thread sink back into the primeval ooze from which it emerged?
johnjsr are you looking for someone to do a potrait of your dog? If so, where are you at? I have a friend that does them here in Michigan. Here's her website. She goes by the picture of your pet.
Come on kidds get along,there is no need to get nasty.it is a free country or world or atleast we think it is.so it is ok to disagree but no need to start a war.it is ok if you do not agree with Mr Frawly,and i am sure he would not lose any sleep over this,but no matter what you say about him just remember he has contributed more to dog training then anyone else.his site is the only site where you will find so much useful info that is if you know how to look for good info,so no matter what you think of the guy you have to give him credit for his contribution.Mr Frawley keep up the good work and thank you Sir.have a nice one.
How right you are, Ed conducts his site in a repsonsible manner, and there is very good info to be learned from it no matter how long one has kept Dogs
I guess this Mr Leigh must be jeaulous of the man or somewhat afraid of him to keep on talking about him
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