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Lambriar inc? (12 replies)

Lambriar inc?
by Karly on 26 January 2008 - 20:01
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Hi all! Does anyone know anything about this outfit? I found their site & they are a broker for petshops & the like. The reason i ask is that a friend of mine has a male gsd from them & she is under the impression that this dog is the best that money can buy. He is a good looking dog with a great temperment, but his pedigre is a bit obscure. It's half German with the majority of the dogs being titled, kkl1 w/good hips & the balance is apparently homebred that i can find no info on. I easily found the German lines, but the rest (finleys, noblecroft & claycamp) are nowhere to be found. Now this reeks to me & i would not buy from this outfit but i am curious to hear anyone's opinion concerning lambriar. Thanks again! ~Krystin

Lambriar inc?
by Louise M. Penery on 26 January 2008 - 22:01
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I only know that a Lambriar online store has recently changed its name to Lambert Vet Supply http://www.lambertvetsupply.com/

I have found this to be a reliable online outfit for purchasing pet care products and have no idea if it is affilated with a GSD broker.

 


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by sueincc on 26 January 2008 - 22:01


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http://www.lambriar.com/lambriarphilosophy.html

I think their "philosophy" about says it all.  Note:  If someone wants one of their brokered puppies they will have to contact a "professional pet shop".  Excuse me - I have to go hurl now.


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by FionaDunne on 26 January 2008 - 23:01
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Commercial puppymill.  The entire website is all marketing and spin.

Roger and Darlene Lambert?  Lambert Vet Supply?  That's the first link listed on their "Helpful Links" page?  I'd venture to guess that it's connected. 

I love their "answers" page.  Nothing about titles or testing done on the parent dogs.  No answers to any of the questions that a person would ask of a breeder.  No mention of the fact that no reputable breeder would sell them a used, broken crate, much less one of their puppies. 

And don't forget to check out the "testimonials" page.  This is worth a good laugh.   All signed:  "Pet store owner", city/state.  No names, no first initial, last name.  No "pet store" name.  That should be enough to boycott every pet store in every city/state listed on that page. 

Lambriar has a few extra letters to it's name.  Should be Lambriar, Inc. 

 

 

 


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by hodie on 27 January 2008 - 00:01
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Fiona is correct here.

This company runs at least one very large commercial puppy mill breeding all types of dogs and selling them to pet stores. Many of the dogs they breed are of obscure parentage, and many produce poor quality pup. If your friend got a healthy dog, with a decent temperament, tell her to count her blessings.

The average pet owner will continue to buy from pet stores, so as long as there are no restrictions on such outfits, they will make money and so will the pet stores, and people like your friend all too often will not get a decent pup.


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by mirasmom on 27 January 2008 - 01:01


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I honestly have no idea whom you are referring to:

BUT, always, even if it takes a little more effort,
 

check-out the people you are getting a puppy from,

meet them in person, know where they live,
and then if you have any questions, ask away.........................
 

Can I see OFA info?
Can I see Temperament cert. info? 
Can I meet the mom or dad?

Krystin,

THEY ARE A BROKER FOR PET SHOPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

Do not ever buy a puppy from a broker or pet shop!!!!!

As I am a member of the GSDCA -------------- it is a sin to sell a GSD (Helpless) puppy) to a pet shop (Unscrupulous)
A--------------------------HOLE---------------------------------------
Sorry, just venting---------------------(LOVE MY DOGS TOO MUCH-----------------)--------)

Karly,

Do you know who your parents are?

I mean come on......................................................................................

Sorry if I sound pissed off, but it just seems common sense to me.............






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by Karly on 27 January 2008 - 04:01
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Hi Everybody!
Just to clarify, I have not and would not buy a pup from this outfit or any other puppy mill.  I brought up the subject as I wanted to confirm my suspicions of this "breeder".  The poor gal I know that bought from them thinks that she has the best bloodlines and the best dog that you can get. 

I have a copy of his pedigree and when I saw the Lambriar logo on it, I thought it was a pedigree research service.  When I googled Lambriar and saw what they really are, I was shocked to say the least.  Absolutely horrified is a better description.  I would even wonder about the correctness of the pedigree?  It is a shame to see good dogs end up in a place like that.  His sire's dam is a daughter of Jasso vom Schwartenzwinger ShcH3, FH and Dalli von der Bosen Nachbarschaft (Timmy x Winni v. d. Nachbarschaft both SchH3/FH) and his dam's sire is out of Ulan and Taiga von der Konigsgarde (Ulan-Kally v. d. Alheady's Hoeve x Kascha v. d. Konigsgarde, Taiga-Gildo v. Wildsteiger Land x Diva v. Palles Athene).
 

They haven't had him x-rayed at this point, so no telling how that would come out.  He is totally upright in the pastern and I think lacking in front and rear angulation, seemed very straight when I saw him.  And not much length of the croup and no slope to speak of.  I don't think he is going to win any conformation shows, but he is a nice dog to be around.  Of course, who knows what the rest of his pedigree is even based in; it doesn't even show the titles and ratings of the German lines, I found those myself as I was curious. 

And in a totally light and un-offended humor, I wouldn't know my father if I saw him today!   Yep, I'm a un-pedigreed mongrel!  

Thanks so much again!
~Krystin


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by Louise M. Penery on 27 January 2008 - 04:01
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Lambriar Animal Health Care claims that they do not sell live animals:

http://www.beaglesunlimited.com/beaglehealth_lambriaranimalhealthcare.htm

 


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by hodie on 27 January 2008 - 05:01
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 Hmmm,

That link Louise is very interesting. I suppose anything is possible and perhaps there is a second outfit with that same name. I remember seeing papers for several pet store pups some years back that indeed had come from a Lambriar facility. When I checked it out, this was a large company in Kansas with several hundred dogs, breeding and selling to pet stores around the country....sort of an Andrew Hunte type operation. But there is a group that indeed is a vet supply......so who knows.

 


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by Karly on 27 January 2008 - 05:01
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Hello!  Here is Lambriar Inc the puppy mill's web site: www.lambriar.com

Lambriar animal health must be a different outfit?  It states on their site that the parents of the puppies must conform to breed standards or they will not buy from that breeder.  I wonder if they go by the AKC or SV standard when buying their German Shepherds?  Might be fun to ask!
Thanks! ~Krystin


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by joebloe on 18 April 2008 - 16:04
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Lambriar's puppy broker business is owned by Roger & Darlene Lambert. Their son Doug Lambert owns & operates the pet supply business, Lambert Vet Supply, formerly known as Lambriar Animal Health Care. Prior to the name change, Roger and/or Darlene owned a majority of the business, and only in the last year or so did Doug buy them out and change the name. Lambert Vet supply also owns and operates web sites for Vet Med Direct & Pet Supplied 4 Less.


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by TIG on 19 April 2008 - 09:04


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They are not a broker as that term is used in the GSD world.  They are - as they themselves state- a distributor. On their answer page these are their definitons:Breeder –

Lambriar® buys from USDA licensed breeders. 

Distributor – Lambriar® is a distributor. A distributor markets puppies for the breeders and wholesales to pet retailers only. 

Retailer – A pet retailer sells directly to the consumer. Retailers must have a storefront and a retail tax permit.

Finally they are located in Kansas. USDA license  sells only to stores, needs a distributor which just happens to be in one of the largest puppy mill state.  Hello I think it's pretty darn clear what they are.

 


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by kleem22 on 09 June 2008 - 23:06
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I feel like such an idiot! My husband and I recently fell in love with a beautiful female chocolate lab from a puppy store. We have always wanted a dog, and she had such a calm temperment we went for it on a whim rather than researching more into her background.

She has been with us now for 4 days and I decided to do some research on her "pedigree". Come to find out she is from the Lambriar Kennel. I've researched some of her bloodlines and she has 8 champions in her pedigree, however I can't find any information on her parents...grr!

I can't believe my puppy might be from a puppy mill. I'm so disapointed in myself for not being more responsible and researching more about my dog. I am attached to her now, and she is such a sweet girl, but I'm so upset to find out about where she came from.  The pet store owner kept telling us over and over that she ACA certified and made it sound like such a big deal. Now I realize it's just a load of bull. We will probably never be able to show or breed her, right?











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