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Sit means Sit dog training (11 replies)
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Anyone ever hear of this? |
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Is that Fred Hassens company? |
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I love their video's on you tube  |
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Well, come on, give already!!! Is that good or bad? A neighbor asked me about it and I told her I'd ask around for her. She has a good natured Golden who is in desparate need of manners. |
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While I am open minded on the use of the ecollar and have used it for some problems, I did see one dog trained on this method and felt that it was very obedient but almost robotic. That is the only way I can describe it. |
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Ok, I think I know what you mean. And the dog wasn't like that the rest of the time? I'll pass this along. |
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Ok, I think I know what you mean. And the dog wasn't like that the rest of the time? I'll pass this along. |
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I don't know about the rest of the time, I only saw the dog for a short time. Not much of an observation. one person one time. She could go to see dogs trained using this method and judge for herself.
I think most dogs with a LOT of eCollar training are expected to wear the collar at all times - that may be something she does not want to do. There are certainly other ways to teach manners. |
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I'm familiar with Sit Means Sit. Trialed back in the old NAPD days the same time Fred did. I know some St Means Sit trainers in my area.
As for my opinion, I can't say I really have one. Don't know enough about it. I have only seen one training session.They are about business and you have to pay to learn the system.
What I can tell you is the dogs I have seen compete that were trained by Tim Smith had outstanding OB, direction, and control in the bite work. As far as pet home OB or any other type of training, I have no idea. From what I understand the system is almost exlusively e-collar so you would have to be OK with that. The dogs I saw were not fried with the collar or mis-treated in any way.
I have only seen the system used by Fred himself and Tim Smith who was one of Fred's initial diciples so I have only seen it done by the best. The people who originated the system. Sit Means Sit is a franchise with probably 100's of trainers across the country by now. With that many trainers, as always, I am sure their are very good ones as well as those who probably mis-use the collar. I know there was an incident in, Michigan or Illinios I believe, that drew alot of negative attention.
As with any trainer, you must choose wisely.
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IF she does do the "free demo with your dog" then I would ask about conditioning the dog to the collar first because anything I have done got the dog used to the collar well in advance so that they did not associate the stim with the collar.
Also ask about stim levels. Lo Stim, Hi Stim. Is it escape training? Is it motivational training with stum in the correction phase? I don't know there is nothing on their site that explains the method...............and what makes it different than the others? I do know that a lot of people use it and it works. I do not know what it does to the dog/handler bond.
Lou Castle and Dobbs Dogs explain their methods online and have a lot of training articles. |
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Hi,
Our Schutzhund Club in PA is thinking having a seminar with Fred, possibly later this year. One of the guys in our club is certified in the "method."
It's definitely certainly not about "frying" dogs, it's about using the collar to teach. And from what I have seen, with very nice results |
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