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Kennel blindness
by doggman on 26 August 2007 - 02:08
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What can be done when you see a breeder become kennel blind and their breeding program is going dowm?

This is especially frustrating when you have seen the breeder produce good dogs some years ago but not in at least 4 years.

Also frustrating when the breeder refuses to even think s/he has made mistakes in the dogs they have bred and the results they have gotten.

 



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by darylehret on 26 August 2007 - 02:08
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Sounds like a rhetorical question.



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by 4pack on 26 August 2007 - 04:08
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I guess you could try to talk to them. More than likely they wont listen. Only thing you really can do, is not buy their pups.



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by 007 on 26 August 2007 - 11:08
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There are many kennels that have kennel blindness, everything they have is wonderful when it isn't, they even win with dogs that have serious faults, and they criticize other peoples stock without looking at there own.  But first of all before you say any kennel has kennel blindness how do you know you haven't got it your self?    The kennel that had good stock 4 years ago but hasn't got it now, it will be interested to know if there dogs came from the same female as sometimes you can get females that produce to anything.

 

 



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by Jeff Oehlsen on 26 August 2007 - 12:08
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If it is a friend, then it is hard to do, but not necessary. I would probably get them drunk, then tell them what I thought, and then never mention it again ! ! ! ! LOL



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by Blitzen on 26 August 2007 - 13:08
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Kennel blindness is common in the dog world. Save your breath, they will never get it. Most I've known eventually get tired of losing with their dogs, so they either get into another breed, or another hobby. It's just human nature to think your dogs are the best. Telling someone their dog isn't up to par is like telling a mother her newborn looks like Frank Perdue.



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by doggman on 26 August 2007 - 14:08
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Frank Perdue was a player in his day.



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by JRT on 26 August 2007 - 14:08
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Everyone loves their dog - titled not titled flawed mediocre or great.  put your hands out in front of you and "talk to the boys"!   If he is selling alot of pups on his past record and making money - he is sucessful.  When none of his pups do anything like the dogs from 4 years ago people in the showring will notice adn buy  elsewhere.  He will eventually figure it out or the dogs will die off and he will get new stock.

 

JRThomas



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by sueincc on 26 August 2007 - 20:08
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Who's Frank Perdue?  I tried "googling" the name but only got a chicken farmer.



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by doggman on 27 August 2007 - 01:08
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Chicken farmer=dead-very rich-Frank Perdue



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by SchHBabe on 27 August 2007 - 15:08
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Doggman,

If this is a friend of yours, then try to help your buddy work through this.  Tough road ahead, however, as most people love their dogs to the point of denial. 

So what's really at the heart of the matter?  Perhaps the dogs are getting old and are not producing well anymore?  Perhaps the breeder has new dogs that aren't the equal of dogs s/he has owned in the past?  Perhaps s/he is not putting the effort into socializing pups and laying a good foundation anymore?  Perhaps s/he is just running a kennel on "cruise control" and living off of reputation of past results?  Perhaps s/he has some ego/insecurity problem that is sparking the denial issue? 

Perhaps none of the above.

If you're a good friend, you might be able to open your buddy's eyes.  Best wishes!

By the way, if you figure out how to do this, please let me know - this can be a common problem in the dog world!

Best wishes!

Yvette



Kennel blindness
by Blitzen on 27 August 2007 - 18:08
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Frank Perdue was a chicken farmer; not a very attrctive person, so no mother would want her newborn compared to him although I have seen many that did resemble him in many ways.  A friend's sister's baby was a dead ring for Frank, Thankfully she outgrew it and looked much better when she started to sprout some hair and the plastic surgeon did miracles with her ears, just amazing. Another unwelcome comparison might be to Elmer Fudd.



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by doggman on 28 August 2007 - 00:08
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SchBabe,

You summed up the problems very well. Mostly DENIAL. If one of your

pups hasn't been titled in 4-5 years and you have been breeding a lot,

somethins wrong.



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by SchHBabe on 28 August 2007 - 00:08
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Doggman,

So what's the deal?  What do you think is causing the denial? 

Yvette



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by doggman on 28 August 2007 - 02:08
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Personal issues that the person is in denial about also. Generally personality traits will come out in several areas of

a person's life. The breeder thing is just one way to see them.

IMHO



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by SchHBabe on 29 August 2007 - 13:08
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Well if it's personal issues that are contributing to the downward spiral in the breeding program, then perhaps you've got a better chance to get through to your friend.  We dog people are a strange lot - some folks love their dogs more than themselves.  As such, your friend might be more open to constructive criticism on his/her own lifestyle than any negative comments on the dogs. 

Your buddy is lucky to have a good friend who is concerned about him/her and willing to try and help. 

Yvette



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by Do right and fear no one on 29 August 2007 - 14:08
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If it is a close friend, just tell them.  If it is not a close friend, then mind your own business.  It is not "our" job, to tell others what they are doing wrong.  Unless they ask.  Or, you are a cop



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by Goose on 29 August 2007 - 14:08
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No matter what you tell anyone, they will hear it but not listen untill something else happens to them. When they hit rock bottom they MAY remember all that they have been told. Kind of like dating the guy everyone tells you is bad and you will make excuses untill....

And yes, I agree, most of someones problems show up in different areas of their life.



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by SchHBabe on 30 August 2007 - 03:08
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There is perhaps some chance that words of wisdom from a good friend can make a difference.  I remember many times in my life where I was at a critical junction, and a good friend (or two) was able to get through my thick skull and show me the error of my ways.

I know it's classic to say that people are set in their ways, blind to their errors, and such.  However, a wise but misguided individual can sometimes be persuaded to do a 180.

I for one am glad that I've had good friends that gave me a boxing about the ears when I bloody well deserved it!  There's a verse in Proverbs that says, "The wounds of a friend are to be better trusted than the kisses of an enemy."

Yvette



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by olskoolgsds on 30 August 2007 - 05:08
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If they haven't gotten it after 4 years they don't want to get it. It's all about priorities. SchHBabe's thoughts are worth trying but don't take ownership of the outcome.



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