German Shepherd Dog > what does Fast Normal and NZ mean? (10 replies)

by Smiley on 06 January 2014 - 19:01

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How do these two labels relate to OFA?

Are dogs with Fast Normal and NZ still allowed to breed?

Thanks in advance.....

by CMills on 06 January 2014 - 19:01

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Go to the OFA website to see the table of comparisons. Fast Normal is equilalent to OFA borderline,  NZ compares to mild HD. Both are regularly used for breeding in Europe.

by GSD Lineage on 06 January 2014 - 19:01

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I enter a lot of dogs and dogs with Fast normal most often go OFA Good, and so do A1 normals.
I'm saying this based on past pedigree entry memory and dogs that were imported to the USA with an stamp and OFAed later,
The biggest difference is just that the A stamp was done at a year of age in Germany, and the OFA was done at 2 years or older in the USA. NZ (a3), and Good are passing scores.

Here are some dual hip scored dogs, born in Germany, Then Exported to the USA or Canada and OFAed at a later age.
All these were campaigned dogs, so they had scores from both sides of the Atlantic Ocean.
1.VA2/CAN SELECT/US CH Jim vom Fiemereck a1 OFA good
2.V Chap von Antheus OFA Good, Should be A stamped
3.V Nurmi von den Maibuchen OFA Good
4.V Fix von Batu OFA Good
5.VA Vimo vom Fiemereck OFA Excellent

I'm sure there are many more. Can anyone get the A Stamp scores of these or a list of other A stamped and OFAed individuals?


 

by Smiley on 06 January 2014 - 19:01

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Thank you, guys!

by Markobytes on 06 January 2014 - 20:01

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The breeding partner for a NZ dog would depend on both dog's ZW number, you can not breed two dogs who's combined ZW exceeds 200. 

by GSD Lineage on 06 January 2014 - 20:01

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Link to chart and former thread I think CMills spoke of.

SV "a" stamp compared to O.F.A. - Page 1 - The Pedigree Database

 

by Markobytes on 06 January 2014 - 20:01

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Be careful when making inferences between hip scores of the same dog under different organizations, how much time has passed between the evaluations?

by Dog1 on 06 January 2014 - 22:01

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Nurmi 'a'1
Fix 'a'1
Vimo 'a'1
 

by Smiley on 07 January 2014 - 09:01

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Marko...agreed. X rays results at age 1 and age 2 can be quite different. I know SV is age 1. So, a dog gets an A stamp at age 1 and could have changes by age 2...nobody would know and the dog would be cleared for hips.

by Staatsmacht on 07 January 2014 - 09:01

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THe most difference between all that is how good is the picture what was taken and send to OFA or SV

by Blitzen on 07 January 2014 - 09:01

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Odds are great that a dog that is clear at 12 months is also going to be clear at 24 months. The rating depending on whether or not the dog was sedated and the quality of the xray. The SV needs to raise the age to 24 months for a permanent rating and the OFA need to require sedation to the point of relaxation. Otherwise it is on the owner of the dog to do it right. Don't send your xrays to the SV til the dog is 24 months old and don't insist that vets xray your dogs without sedation. Sedation is not anesthesia, not dangerous and allows the dog to become relaxed and not resist the manipulation. It does make a difference in some dogs. I've seen it. Either one wants to know the true status of their dogs's hips or they only want a certification.

It might also be a great idea to not use dogs rated NZ and fast normal. It's generally not acceptable to breed a GSD that is so so in conformation,  protection, a performance venue. Why is it acceptable to use a dog with so so hips? Other breeds have reduced the incidence of HD dramatically by only breeding normal hips to normal hips.  It's common for entire litter to clear. I don't see that happening often with GSD's. Why?

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