German Shepherd Dog > Color Prediction on Puppy pick (13 replies)
Color Prediction on Puppy pick
by DDRDude on 27 July 2012 - 19:50
I'm about ready to purchase my first all DDR pup and 2nd gsd pup ever. The mom is solid black and the father is a sable from two sable parents. All the pups are sable and I know they all cary the black recessive. I've read that sable + a, pups get lighter as they get older and that all other sable combinations get darker as they get older. Is this true? I really want to a pup thats goign to be a very dark sable and hopefully with a black mask, as much as I want this superb pigment I know that drive, tempermeant, health, and build all come before. Though if I can have the best of both worlds, what should I look for in the littter that will have a greater likely hood of getting the coat I want. I want a pup that will be super dark in pigment and hopefully with a black mask on their face. What shold I look for in this litter to get what I desire, they are all a week old right now and look a little very light as it is.
by SchaeferhundSchH on 27 July 2012 - 20:39
|This has not been my experience. I have a black sable Czech female who carries recessive black. She is extremely dark herself. Her puppies have all changed colors appropriate for sables. She was bred to a recessive black male and this is the litter that came. They were born very dark, remained dark up until 7 weeks. Got their lightest around 7-8 weeks and then have gotten nothing but darker since.|
by Hundmutter on 27 July 2012 - 20:39
|"No good dog is a bad colour".|
by Weezy on 27 July 2012 - 21:32
|But some want the good dog and the good color..Personal preference.|
Good luck finding the perfect pup for you..
You might have to settle for a good dog and a lighter color.
Sables go through phases, they get lighter then darker, maybe lighter again. The ones I have had, if dark at birth, get lighter then go back darker as they mature. look like different dogs at least a couple times a year.
do you have a picture of the puppies right now? maybe we could just guess which one will be darkest, but then, you still need to consider drives you want in the pup. May not be in the Darkest one.
by B.Andersen on 27 July 2012 - 21:34
|I have found as a general rule that sable end up close to being the color they are born then get lighter then darker as they mature. Diet in adult dogs can make a big difference. Every dog I have imported ends up shedding out darker over 6 months to year later.|
by live4schutzhund on 29 July 2012 - 00:22
Dark in black sables for me are two different variables, pigment depth (the brown), and black coverage and intensity of the guard hairs. I have done allot of research on black sables, posted and commented on this board, but to keep a long story short, heres the nuts and bolts of it.
by myret on 29 July 2012 - 19:20
|just stunning dogs just beutiful wooow|
what an awessome beuty
by live4schutzhund on 31 July 2012 - 22:49
|Wish I could take credit. He belongs too-|
Just a fan of this dog. If his eyes were a little darker would be my PERFECT dog.
Hope you can see what I mean when I refer to both types of pigmentation.
Heres another photo of him.
Another dog with great pigmentation. Again, not mine.
by Pharaoh on 31 July 2012 - 23:09
|Wow! You just picked out two of my favorites.|
Puck and Aaron.
My solid black Pharaoh is an Aaron son who I purchased from Julie at vom Banack.
My other favorite is Rookie http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=481431
This is Kim of Just k9s and Rookie and Rookie's baby taken last May. The puppy is a full sibling to my Mariah. Kim does have a solid Black female.
Michele, Pharaoh and Mariah
by live4schutzhund on 31 July 2012 - 23:16
Facebook friend. Browsed those photos many times. Also somewhat validates my analysis on black recessive genetics. Beautiful dog.
by Falkosmom on 02 August 2012 - 06:29
|"Diet in adult dogs can make a big difference."|
How is that?
"Every dog I have imported ends up shedding out darker over 6 months to year later. "
Why do you think this is?
by yellowrose of Texas on 02 August 2012 - 23:00
| Michele: My favorite boy also and his pup|
My experience is my sables get light when teen agers , shed a lot of the under and come back in fall darker.
I will try to post pup then adult of Azech, two pups Gauda and Dressa/
first as pups then later as adults and you will notice that Dressa is mainly gray, and Gauda is red sable /patterned....both pups were light gray when pups
ALSO Cola as a pup and she was entirely a totally different color when adult
Zibossie when pup and adult...my Zidane pup who Mahon owns now.
Dressa 8yrs old
Dressa and Gauda as pups,, with mom who was sable also Azesch
Gauda, 4 yrs old Dressa 's littermate out of Azesch...born light grey in pic above.
Zibossie 4 mos.
ZiBossie a Zidane daughter 2009 2yrs
Cola is on the right looking at the pic.with Pink leash.......... her littler mate Ginger on left w purple leash
Cola is the sable and Dax is the black/red..
Bhandi, a Dressa daughter at 3 mos.
Bhandi at 15 mos old
Bhandi 4yrs old
Depending whether it is summer or Fall my grey sables are light and then darker...
by THEskridge on 04 August 2012 - 06:13
The Sire to my 14 week old pup is Sable and the Dam is all Black I've started a Growth Chart with pictures on this site...Every week he gets darker and darker..You can see pics from just born to 12 Weeks...He's 14 Weeks old now and even darker
Sero Atticus von Hayden
Good luck in your search :)
by THEskridge on 04 August 2012 - 20:33