German Shepherd Dog > Dogenes DM test (17 replies)
Dogenes DM test
by Jemima Harrison on 23 July 2012 - 14:20
I am having a look - prompted by several emails - at the Renal Dysplasia test offered by Dogenes and would be extremely interested in the views of those here, both of that test, and the one Dogenes offers for DM.
This is for an article - possibly for Dogs Today, or perhaps just for my blog.
If you'd prefer to contact me privately, my email address is jem[at]pedigreedogsexposed.com
by Nans gsd on 23 July 2012 - 16:11
NOthing comes up on your link, sorry Nan
by Hundmutter on 23 July 2012 - 16:31
| IN THE CIRCUMSTANCES, THAT THE LINK JUST SAYS NO PAGE EXISTS 'BUT "PEDIGREEDOGSEXPOSED" IS AVAILABLE' IS JUST FUNNEEE ! Reckon some time machine has taken us back three years or so ? [Typical JH -|
can't even get that completely right, can you ?.]
by Jemima Harrison on 23 July 2012 - 16:56
|Should work OK now... Had edited it earlier, just not the html bit (not quite got the hang of the protocol..).|
Do you have any views on this issue, Linda?
by Hundmutter on 23 July 2012 - 19:52
|Not that I would care to share with you.|
by marjorie on 25 July 2012 - 04:00
|I would welcome another DM test and another researcher. I dont care who finds the correct gene, even if it is a for profit group. I could care less who finds it, so long as the RIGHT gene is found for GSDM!|
by Hundmutter on 25 July 2012 - 08:16
|For anyone who does not know - Jemima Harrison is not a 'researcher', she is a sensationalist journalist; IMO anything|
said to her on or off here should be said in that knowledge, and with great care. Linda.
by Abby Normal on 25 July 2012 - 11:45
|So far as I am aware, DogGenes don't offer a test for DM, they announced that they 'might' have found a gene some while back, and asked for samples for research. Heard nothing else about it. No updates, no idea if anyone sent samples or participated in the research etc. So don't even know if it is ongoing. As Marj says, it would be great if anyone could make a real breakthrough with DM.|
Don't know about the JRD test.
by noddi on 26 July 2012 - 08:00
|Have to laugh at your reply to this Hundmutter!!!!!!!!!!!Jemmima may i suggest you visit these Groups on Facebook,join n share your views on THEIR BREEDING PRACTICES,coz they aint got any.Ask relevant questions such as ....are the parents health screened for genetic inherited diseases n see wot answers or insults u get from them.These are the ppl.u should be making programs about for TV coverage instead of the sensationalistic programs re.SHOW DOGS n their owners who in fact are the ones doing ALL of these screening tests for their breeds.......1)STUD (DOGS)UK.STUD DOGS NORTH EAST,STUD MALES,BREEDING BITCHES N BREEDING ADVICE,FREE PETS AND SALE EAST MIDLANDS.These are groups i have joined n been banned from recently for voicing my opinions /advice.These ppl.believe that their dogs are healthy just because they look healthy n that will mean any puppies produced will also be healthy n we all know that aint the way the cookie crumbles.Come on ,u want all dogs etc.2 be bred healthily so how about producing a program on PUPPY FARMERS/BACK YARD BREEDERS who only breed animals purely for the money.I look forward to seeing a program on this subject in due course?????????????Mrs.Carole-Anne Spelman RHEINMEISTER GSDS.|
by Hundmutter on 26 July 2012 - 08:56
|Hi Carole, glad to tickle you! That's a good idea you have there; wonder if Jemima will respond to it ? I think she did|
say in Dogs Today at one point she might tackle puppyfarming, but nowt came of it. Might well be a more useful
thing for her to do with her 'talents' than trying to get a story out of genetic testing ?
by Abby Normal on 26 July 2012 - 11:14
|What is the actual 'question' around the JRD test Jemima? |
by Videx on 26 July 2012 - 11:28
|One particular issue with the JRD Test. now the RD Test in the UK is the apparent saturation of RD in Flat Coated Retrievers. It appears that in this breed RD "CLEARS" are as rare as hens teeth! |
by Hundmutter on 26 July 2012 - 15:06
|Oh, so its really a personal interest that she has ? She didn't mention that.|
Bet Jemima considers herself lucky every day that FlatCoats are not among the " 15 ".
by Videx on 26 July 2012 - 20:02
|My personal concern is avoiding such "RD saturation" amongst GSD - Our breed in the UK has currently relatively few cases, however ????|
by Hundmutter on 27 July 2012 - 05:57
Its not one of the things you hear constantly mentioned on here - or anywhere else that i'm aware of so far - as being
a known problem in the States. Given the extent to which other diseases are talked about across the Pond, that can
only be a good indication that it doesn't happen there too much either. But I agree with you its always useful to have a test for anything known to occur and to USE the test to ensure eg JRD doesn't get bred on.
When I said it had proved a bit of a red herring I was referring to the fact that so few cases had been referred to in GSD that it might be some sort of 'blip', and we MAYBE get away with this one not really being a problem.
However we both know there are enough stupid people out there on all sides of the World to breed with dogs who DO or MIGHT carry it, even with testing facilities it will get spread around if it is going to be.
The Jemimas of this world should note that those "stupid people" are NOT, in the main, Show or Work people who are serious about the Breed, but BYB and farmers who exist in their hundreds and produce
a huge proportion of pet puppies. But then, she knows that, I've said it before, loads of other people have
said it before, Noddi just said it again ... do the anti-purebred faction LISTEN ? Nope.
by Abby Normal on 29 July 2012 - 22:51
|Linda, so far as I am aware it is not prevalent (yet) in the GSD. I have only personally known one dog with it. Having said that, I believe that if we have tests available we should make use of them. This beautiful vibrant young male died at 4 years old. It was an unnecessary and preventable death, and deeply saddening, and one death too many IMO.|
I feel very sorry for the flatcoat fraternity living constantly with the spectre of this disease in their breed.
by Videx on 29 July 2012 - 23:47
|The worry and tragedy is that several other breeds are just as saturated with RD as the FCR's|
by LilyDexter on 30 July 2012 - 21:36
I've never heard of a Flatcoat that was affected by this illness. I thought I read that the test was being withdrawn.