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How do you teach your dog to be incorruptible? by MightyZeus on 29 June 2012 - 13:07 |
| I've always wondered how people manage to teach their dogs not to accept food from strangers. Here's a video demonstrating what I mean http://youtu.be/LGjjr-Olb_g |
MightyZeus by MightyZeus on 29 June 2012 - 13:15 |
| and ultimately teach the dog to only accept food from a family members. |
by Rass on 29 June 2012 - 15:04 |
| Maybe by teaching the dog he cannot take food if he is doing a job (like down/stay). Secondly by not having a dog like a Labrador Retriever......... |
by Niesia on 29 June 2012 - 17:36 |
I know of only one method that has been used for guard dog training and it is pretty awful: |
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by AmbiiGSD on 29 June 2012 - 17:38 |
| My dog will only eat in his run - he won't even take treats from me outside the house, nevermind strangers... I didn't teach it, it's just how he is. If I'm away and hubby feeds him he looks at him like he's trying to poison him! |
AmbiiGSD by minro on 29 June 2012 - 17:49 |
| The only thing I've heard of in this regard is when guard dogs - for junkyards, bus lots, etc etc - are trained to not pick up anything off the ground (it's sickening, but there are a lot of people who throw poision over fences to kill them). It's not hard to train. Have also seen dogs trained this way when they are poop eaters. Put treats all around a large area, and shock them with an e-collar everytime the dog goes to eat it. They learn quickly not to eat anything off the floor - only from a hand or a bowl. I’m sure you could take it a step further and train the dog to take food only from your hand. I trained one of my past gsds like this who LOVED to eat poop.... It was lovely. |
by Koach on 30 June 2012 - 00:40 |
| There is a conditioned training technique used in the ringsports in order to pass the "food refusal" exam that is easy to teach. In the following video you will see a dog that has been left in a "down stay" and when the handler is absent out of sight 4 pieces of food are tossed to the dog. There is absolutely no compulsion necessary to teach this method to most dogs. When the dogs are taught this method they usually refuse food from strangers outside the sport field context. Stating your dog using this method will make positively proofing him for all situations much less compulsive as the basis of "food refusal" is already established. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xavye5_refus-d-appats-cronos_animals In the Ring 2 and 3 exams there are pieces of food laying on the field while the dog does his OB and bite work. |
by jra on 30 June 2012 - 11:59 |
"Secondly by not having a dog like a Labrador Retriever......"
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by GSDPACK on 30 June 2012 - 16:41 |
| I had a Beagle who would barf to just eat one more time... he was a weirdo, but very cute. |
GSDPACK by Felloffher on 30 June 2012 - 17:27 |
| Koach, Can you share the technique to teaching the food refusal? I've only seen it taught with compulsion. Pack, Funny story. |
Felloffher by EuroShepherd on 01 July 2012 - 00:25 |
My eyes are seeing "incorruptible" but my mind keeps thinking "incorrigible" LOL |
EuroShepherd by MightyZeus on 01 July 2012 - 23:20 |
| Good people, I can't thank you all enough for all your helpful tips. Kaoch that's exactly what I was talking about, how would one go about to achieving that systematicaly? |
by Koach on 02 July 2012 - 01:07 |
| MightyZeus and Felloffher, the method we use in are club is different but based on the same conditioning principals as discussed in the following video. All one has to do when the dog understands and is reliable with you and your familly is eventually add real life scenarios using strangers as collaborators to what the video teaches for the sports field. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR8Jbthtu4U |
by alboe2009 on 02 July 2012 - 01:12 |
| There are different methods and those listed above. There are numerous times/reasons or moments you would not want strangers either feeding your K9s or having your K9s feed on or eat whatever they see, please or feel like. While in the Military I had a pair of Chows and for the most part people are either afraid of them or say/think that they are mean/vicious dogs. Mine were not. And for the first six monthsThey were trained to only eat on a command. No command no eating. But then deployments started and frequently so I had to change everything back to normal. The corrections do not need to be harsh or aggressive. Just to teach the dog waht is right and what is wrong. What you are wanting and what you are not wanting. If I am correct, (and I believe I am) FBI K9s only eat when they find their "source" no other time! so, training and actual finds their "reward" is their food! |
alboe2009 by yellowrose of Texas on 02 July 2012 - 04:48 |
| Judy at Petsmart uses the LEAVE IT command and does an extensive 2 week training after the dog knows obedience pretty well with that command.. IT works.. MY guard dog in our Automotive shop ws trained to the open window with meat thrown in with a chemical in it to make dog sick...about 4 times one week and test then 4 times next week... Did a refresh once a year...then it was $850.00 just for that. We left window open in shop and the trainer threw meat in window...then a bone and a few other meat products.. YR |
yellowrose of Texas by fawndallas on 02 July 2012 - 16:01 |
| Keep in mind. However to you teach your dog this, what will you do if you have to board or leave the dog with someone. I know many of us say "either the dog goes or we do not go," but there are times when the dog just can't go. If the dog only takes food from you.... what do you do? The idea of eating on command is a good one. 2 of my dogs have this. No command, no eat. They even walk away if not in a stay position. |
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