German Shepherd Dog > Panosteitis (15 replies)
by minro on 20 June 2012 - 20:05
|My pup has had Pano on and off for the last few months (currently just shy of 10 months and weighs 75 pounds). I've been keeping him thin and his activity level to an extreme low when he starts limping again and it just seems to be driving him crazy. I've read that most vets don't even know how to identify Pano on xrays, and with the rate my vet is charging (300 for films, 100 for sedation), I think I'll be holding off.|
So, just hoping to hear about some experiences people have had with Pano, things you've noticed help with the pain, etc, etc. His limping has gotten pretty bad and I feel bad for the little guy.
by beetree on 20 June 2012 - 22:38
|Have you eliminated tick diseases as a possibility before jumping to Pano? My brother's vet had the pup get the x-rays done first, and it turned out the limping was caused by Lyme disease, not pano.|
by trixx on 21 June 2012 - 01:39
|i had a male pup at 7 months that had pano, i used Ester C 1000mg 1 time aday-and this did the trick, its a wonder drug for this problem, it can take a good week for him to feel better , but it will work. most dogs are competely out of Pano by 2 years.|
by Hutchins on 21 June 2012 - 01:50
|Put him on a low protein diet. Make sure he gets natural sunlight, and restrict his activities. Vitiman C with esther works good also. But in my opinion, making sure he gets plenty of rest is what is most important, as the pano will or should go away in time. But its the suffering that we don't want him to go through that is most important, at least that is how we feel.|
by Keith Grossman on 21 June 2012 - 02:29
|I've had this with virtually every male pup I've raised for the last 20 years or so. Get some Rimadyl and keep him quiet; it'll pass.|
by yellowrose of Texas on 21 June 2012 - 06:31
|Yes, it is a pain in the tutu to raise males with pano but it does pass..|
Ester c is great and raw meat has natural c...treat him with it if he will eat some/
Give him a pain pill once a day and you have to keep them kenneled and quiet..
brush him, talk to him, let him lay in your den or on the inside room where you are at night to not bore him...you have to force them to be quiet..they do not like sitting and no activity.
I have doggie aspirin I buy from www.revivalanimal.com
and I use the large animal dosage.
just keep lots of water in him and let him be lazy for 10 days to 2 weeks.
When all is clear and he is well, make sure you give him a probiotic for several months
by Assi on 21 June 2012 - 08:40
My male had also Pano two times between 1-1,5 years old. At the first time he was x-rayd to get right diagnose.
The vet ordered Rimadyl, and it was a very good help. He get well very soon..
by minro on 21 June 2012 - 14:56
|Thanks everyone. I'll look into Esther C.|
beetree, my vet thought that was a possibility as well so we ran some tests. No Lyme disease! :)
by Gusmanda on 21 June 2012 - 15:59
|does pano occur while on raw diet?|
by edith on 22 June 2012 - 02:51
|Pano can be viral. It has been linked to the distemper virus. I had a couple of 6 month old pups get pano after a modified live virus distemper vaccination. Also, if spayed young, I have been told the estrogen produced by the adrenal glands when a female is spayed around 6 months can worsen inflammation.|
by minro on 22 June 2012 - 16:47
|I am reading that Ester C may not be the best choice, because there is calcium which isn't recommended for dogs with Pano. I am thinking about just human grade Vitamin C.... Any advice?|
by beetree on 22 June 2012 - 17:01
|Look up Hokamix. Usually gets good reviews.|
by djc on 22 June 2012 - 21:42
|It is rare for a raw fed dog to get pano. Raw fed puppies grow more slowly. It's usually the hi protein commercial foods that do it, because it causes them to grow too fast. Pano's equivalent in humans is growing pains in teenagers.|
A vet that does not know what pano looks like on a radiograph is not a competent vet. They don't understand what it is and what to look for, if they can't see it. It is VERY obvious when they do have it. It shows up as brightness(inflammation) all along the edge of the long bones of the legs.
by Blitzen on 23 June 2012 - 16:05
|Debby, in your experience, do you think raw fed puppies achieve the correct adult size? A few of my friends in another breed no long feed raw as they felt that their raw fed pups matured smaller than their puppies from the same lines that had been fed a commercial diet. Thanks!|
At first, an xray of an effected long bone may not show any radiographic signs of pano. Most vets will base the diagnosis on palpating/bending the bone in question. If the dog has a painful reaction, the diagnosis of pano is made clinically. Later in the disease, an xray will probably show the typical "swirling" changes in that bone.
by Blitzen on 23 June 2012 - 16:17
|I don't like to medicate a puppy with pano using a drug like Rimadyl. IMO it's better to use a less potent pain reliever like buffered aspirin; just enough to take the edge off. If a puppy gets to feeling too good, it will abuse itself delaying the healing process and the symptoms may return in the near future. Pano will resolve itself either way, but Rimadyl et al will delay it in most puppies. Aspirin, forced rest will speed up the healing process. No one wants to see their puppy suffering, but a little discomfort is a good thing when the diagnosis is pano.|
by Avery Hill Kennels on 24 June 2012 - 01:35
|Vitamin C is best but must be vegetable based dogs can not absorb synthetic based vitamins (man made ) So they must be powder formed vegetable based vitamins. Also supplementing with salmon oil help with a baby aspirin every other day.|
I would only crate rest when limping but allow the dog to exercise as much as it is comfortable.