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Milo's Necropsy Report by Mcap on 18 June 2012 - 23:59 |
| We finally got the results of Milo's necropsy, today. There were no signs of poison ingestion or anything external. Based on what they found in some of the organs, they highly suspect that it was ventricular arrithmyia (sudden heart attack). The interesting thing is that there are no markers for this, so they can only assume this was the cause of death, because nothing else stood out. I am happy that Milo didn't ingest poison or had something happen that could have been prevented. The big question now is what will the breeder do. We bought 2 dogs.... one died and one has been sick from Day 1. Thanks Mike |
Mcap by starrchar on 19 June 2012 - 00:39 |
| I guess there is some comfort in that Milo did not suffer. At least you know that it isn't anything you did and there really was nothing you could've done to prevent it. Of course, that doesn't help the heartache you are feeling from the loss of your beloved Milo. I'd say the breeder definitely owes you a "replacement" puppy, but based on the fact that you ended up with two sick puppies I don't know that I'd want another pup from this breeder. What is wrong with your other puppy? |
starrchar by Mcap on 19 June 2012 - 02:14 |
| When we brought the pups home, we noticed that Rocco's eyes were running a bit and he was biting his fur. i just assumed that it was the Eukanuba the breeder fed the puppies. Well when we took the boys for their first vet visit, it turned out that Rocco had yeast and a bacterial infection and both of them had a parasite. Our vet practices western and chinese medicine so we tried some special shampoos and that didnt work. Finally she had to put him on an antibiotic and that cleared up the red spots and some of the itching. While this was happening we started changing proteins. Anyway about 2 months ago he started losing fur on his underside and really buting at his paws. The red spots were back and back to the vet. We tried some chinese herbs and supplements to see if we could jump start his immune system. Still no luck so today she put him on a very light steroid/antihisimine. We also changed him over to a raw diet. Since Milo passed, Rocco appetite has been poor at best. I have almost been force feeding him this week. Unfortunately I heard from the breeder and out of the kindness of her heart she is willing to give us a $1000 credit towards another puppy. So we buy 2 dogs..1 dies and 1 has been sick from day 1. We are so upset with her response that I asked her for a full refund so I can buy a healthy dog from another breeder. This is not a small breeder and they have several champions, including USA Siegers in their breeding program. I guess God put all types of people on this earth for a reason. Mike |
by SitasMom on 19 June 2012 - 03:22 |
| Hi Mike, Do you live in a puppy lemon law state? If so, the breeder is responsible for returning your money and may be even helping to pay for some of your medical expenses. If you dont live is such a state, then mention that you make the kennel name and address and your story available to everyone that will listen and would consider even complaining to every "ripoff" and "complaint" site you can find. I would not consider another puppy from that breeder.......2 out of 2 is almost unheard of.... |
by Mcap on 19 June 2012 - 03:46 |
| I live in Illinois and that is where the breeder is located. I just went on the GSDCA.org web site and looked up the Breeder Code of Ethics. They have a Breeder of Merit tag on their web site, but I can clearly call out violations to the code of ethics stated on the GSDCA site. I am going to send a message to the Code of Ethics Chair person and tell her my story. This is not a small breeder and they sell several hundreds of puppies per year. I should publish her last email to me without her name. On top of it we had to pay $750 for the necropsy and cremation. I am trying to cool off before I do anything, but I do have 2 online k9 performance supplement sites that have been online for 6 plus years and thousands of people that will listen to my story. I should have listened to my wife because she Googled the breeder and lo and behold they showed up on the Rip Off Report. When I asked the owners husband or boy friend he told me that they tried to work with the people, but there are some you just can't please. He had already brought out Milo and Rocco and we fell in love with them. It was a bad decision on my part. No contract, no bill of sale and when I asked about the Guarantee he said it's stated on their site. I let my emotions get the best of me instead of my business accumen. Mike |
by Blitzen on 19 June 2012 - 04:18 |
| If your breeder isn't willing to work with you, file a complaint with the GSDCA. Breeders who agree to abide by the breeder's code are expected to do so. Just state the facts and I'm sure you will get results. Very sorry to hear about little Milo, you must have been devastated. You are the 4th or 5th person I know who has had a young GSD die suddenly from a heart problem. I hope your other dog gives you many years of pleasure. |
Blitzen by Mcap on 19 June 2012 - 04:20 |
| Thank you. I just went through the code if ethics on the GSDCA site and I am contavting the chair person tomorrow. Mike |
by Blitzen on 19 June 2012 - 04:34 |
| Don't beat yourself up too badly for not having more business sense. It happens to most of us at one time or another. We see the dog and by that time there is no turning back. Been there myself; after owning dogs for 30 years I too bought a dog I shouldn't have. |
by GSD Admin on 19 June 2012 - 04:51 |
| Hi Mike, Please do not publish her email, it is against our TOS but you can write it in your own words. You can also tell your story and name the breeder but understand they may rebut what you say and name you. BTW, sorry to hear of your loss. RIP Milo. Regards, GSD |
GSD Admin by Ruger1 on 19 June 2012 - 04:58 |
I am just sick hearted for you,,I also lost my 1 year old male to a ventricular arrhythmia... |
Ruger1 by Mcap on 19 June 2012 - 05:03 |
| GSD....I would never bring myself down to that level nor would I ever mention the kennel name in a post. I am contacting the GSDCA and will file a formal complaint. My guess is that they will not do anything, but we'll see. Thanks Mike |
by Ruger1 on 19 June 2012 - 05:10 |
| Will you consider posting the pedigree? |
by Mcap on 19 June 2012 - 05:20 |
| I would be happy to answer any questions via IM. Thanks Mike |
by trixx on 19 June 2012 - 05:31 |
very sorry to hear about Milo, this breeder should give you a replacement, but does not sound like a good breeder, hope you get some thing out of this, i have also been down this road and have brought dogs , i should not, i guess we all have learn from our mistakes not to trust. not all breeders are honest like we would think they should be. good luck with your other pup. |
trixx by GSD DEFENDER on 19 June 2012 - 07:57 |
| You are wasting your time contacting GSDCA or filing using the Lemon Law protection, the only results you will get is publicly naming the Kennel and save someone else from heartache. They all stick together like glue. You will be better off next time finding a hobby breeder that knows genetics and is not involved in politics of the so called professional breeders. I have been in your shoes. Florida Gov. Lemon Law sends a letter to the breeder and the breeder does not have to respond, what a joke! The breeder I delt with changed their name so when you name the kennel, the pedegree (expose them all) name the person also. |
by Mcap on 19 June 2012 - 12:46 |
| I heard back form the committe chair of the GSDCA. It turns out that the breeder has never signed the code of ethics and is not a member. That is unfortunate. I guess I will try and contact the AKC since they have a Breeder of Merit tag on their site. Mike |
by SitasMom on 19 June 2012 - 13:00 |
if you do not post the name of the breeder, others will be ripped off. |
by Blitzen on 19 June 2012 - 13:03 |
| You are wrong, defender, the GSDCA will punish a member who signs the breeder's code if they violate one of those codes. They can't hang them high in the town square, but they can suspend or revoke their membership. If this GSD breeder is a member of that club and promotes itself as being a Breeder of Merit, then it will be expected to sign and agree to the code. If not a member, then the breeder is falsely promoting his affiliation with the GSDCA and the club should contact him and tell him to remove that from his website. If a member and if he didn't sign the code, then there's not much to do. Too bad you didn't live in PA when you filed the lemon law complaint. The PA Federation of Dog Clubs would have helped you. They introduced that legislature in PA and are bound to see that it is enforced. |
by Mcap on 19 June 2012 - 13:10 |
| I just checked their site and the tag states Breeder of Merit Tag from the AKC, not GSDCA. I will state the kennel name once everything plays out. i want to give them the opportunity to make things right. Mike |
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