German Shepherd Dog > Pricing a new GSD puppy.. (27 replies)
Pricing a new GSD puppy..
by RedOctober on 18 May 2012 - 23:55
|Flipping through many websites I have seen prices that range from 500-9000 dollars. I am trying to wrap my head around the pricing mechanism. |
1- If I am looking at a puppy whose grandparents are V1's and V2's and the asking price is 1400 dollars, is this a fair price?
2- Sex and price, I know many people prefer male GSD over females, (for many reasons I will not go into because I don't want to derail my own thread) so does this also effect price? If the breeder is charging 1400 for a male is it fair to reason that a female will fetch less do to decreased demand? If so, how much less?
If any breeder could shed some light on these questions I would appreciate it.
by aceofspades on 19 May 2012 - 00:10
|I can't be of any real help, except to say that is it very plausible to find an exceptional puppy for $1200-$1500. In fact if I am not mistaken you could import a pup from Germany or Czech for barely more than that. The more expensive puppies are not necissarily any better, there are a ton of amazing breeders who sell at a flat rate regardless of gender and with full registration no questions asked. I have two dogs from different breeders. One good dog, one great dog and I paid $1200 Canadian for one and $1200 US for the other. Both with full registration. My girl is out of an SL import male and a WL AKC female, all dogs in the pedigree on both sides are SchH titled (most 2 and 3) and KKL.|
by brynjulf on 19 May 2012 - 00:31
|Ace is correct a really nice pup can be had in the 12-1500 range. Expect to pay up to 2500.00 for an exceptional show prospect. Even the best of the best really shouldnt cost more than that. An 8 week old pup is a crap shoot no matter how you look at it. Even amazing bred to super amazing can and will produce duds. It's the law of genetics. Paying more definately does not guarantee a quality puppy. If you are looking at SL take a look at how many dogs in the pedigree are V rated and ask about their working ability. If you are looking at WL look at the FEMALES in the pedigree, you want the bitches to be Sch 3 dogs as well as the males . A young bitch may only have a Sch1 so not to big of a worry. Bare minimum is hips and elbows clear. Make sure at whatever price the dog is owned outright by you and steer clear of breeders who want you to sign a 700 page contract. This is called baffelling with bullshit and is in no way a guarantee of quality.|
by Chaz Reinhold on 19 May 2012 - 00:40
|I guess the hunt is over.|
by RedOctober on 19 May 2012 - 00:49
|I will not know that for sure, until I see the pup this Sunday.|
by Chaz Reinhold on 19 May 2012 - 00:53
|Uh, your handle...|
by Rik on 19 May 2012 - 00:57
|If you are looking at a pup for $1400 whose selling point is grand parents V1 and V2, you need to slow down and do a little more research. You are about to be had.|
by macrowe1 on 19 May 2012 - 00:58
|Are the parents titled in anything? Are they charging different prices for different sexes? IMO, I don't like breeders who charge more for one sex over the other. And I don't like breeders who rely only on the fact that the grandparents or great-grandparents are titled in something, and did well. Did the parents do anything?|
by RedOctober on 19 May 2012 - 01:05
|The parents are NOT titled, and have done nothing more than have litters, but are active in Shutzhund and are SCH2's.|
by Rik on 19 May 2012 - 01:30
|Sch. is a title|
by Ctidmore on 19 May 2012 - 02:36
|In each of my litters I will have 2 prices. One for full registration and one with limited. Male and females are the same price. I have read a lot of pros/cons on buying limited. The reason I offer it is becasue a lot of people know they are not going to be breeding and so this allows them to have a great quality puppy at a lower price. I feel that those thinking of breeding or showing and paying a higher price will then hopefully pay attention to what they breed to and why. It works for me, not saying it doesn't have its flaws but it has been my practice for several years. No long contracts, but will work up a contract if the purchaser wants one, and we will word it to both our liking. CT|
by macrowe1 on 19 May 2012 - 03:03
|I'm with rik, schutzhund 2 is a title. Hip/elbows? DM testing? Guarantees on the pup?|
by SitasMom on 19 May 2012 - 04:02
|in my litters almost all puppies are sold with limited registration until proof of passing hips and elbows and they have some type of title, then i will change it to full registration.|
by aceofspades on 19 May 2012 - 04:19
|Chaz, that was funny. Yes SchH is a title. If the parents are SchH2 then that is a good thing.|
by Avery Hill Kennels on 19 May 2012 - 04:32
|I think it is what a breeder can "ask for" a pup a consistently "get"|
I have a breeder she is a friend( I do not agree on her breeding goals) not a hour a way from me she breeds ASL/WSL cross and get's 800.00 to a 1000.00 a pup
They are just pets and I have no idea if she even does HD/ED but she does sale a lot of pups.
BUT you could NOT give me one of her dogs for free, hell I don't care if you said you would buy it's food for life and pay vet bills it would be a waist of space at my home. So quality and asking price is in the eye of the beholder.
I know of another breeder close that ask a similar price again couldn't give me one !! So I think it is more in researching a breeder that has like minded goals and investing in the hard work they have already laid,(.Same goals) that I think is key to finding a good breeder is communication and ARE you on the same page NOT asking price.
by RedOctober on 19 May 2012 - 04:34
|Update, I just did some research on the breeder and as it turns out, the general feeling is that he puts out too many litters and has a reputation of avoiding some medical checks on his animals. |
I think I will follow Riks advice and learn a bit more, and thoroughly background the breeder as well as the GSD he's selling. before I spend any money.
by Ladyluck1120 on 19 May 2012 - 05:18
|Hi, I am looking to buy a GSD puppy from a breeder on Washington. Male pup and he's about 10 weeks old. Dam is a V SchH1, and sire is a schH3 KKL1 from Germany - and the price Is $3500. I do not know a lot about theses abbreviations and what they mean, other than status and types of champions. Looking for any feedback from others who are more familiar in the arena of GSD, bloodlines, titles, in relation to prices. I am told this particular male dog is a definately breed dog and the stud of the litter. I'm pretty emotionally involved in this, and am looking to get the puppy next week..however, I do want to make sure I'm not being taking advantage of, since I am not experienced in this. Looking for any input.|
by Two Moons on 19 May 2012 - 05:24
the more you learn about the breed, the more you will be saved from over priced fantasy.
When you come to know just what it is you want and what you will do with it, the better off you will be as well.
Don't buy into the hype, do not cecum to the craft of salesmanship, know a few simple truths.
The price of a dog has nothing to do with it's greatness, it's a crap shoot no matter what anyone tells you.
Like Forrest Gump's box O chocolates and that's a fact.
The internet is the worst place to begin.
A great dog could cost as little as a few hundred dollars, and a two thousand dollar dog could just as easily turn out to be the biggest mistake of your life.
There are no guarantees, only your own knowledge and judgment would I trust if I were you.
learn more, much more, before you begin.
by dogabaris on 19 May 2012 - 05:34
|For example, I have a litter after VA10 Godalis Tino and my breeding bitch IPO1 - Kkl1 Reyya von Sadaghiani. We price them around 1500 dollars. If you were locating at nearby countries I could be helpfull. But USA is far away from us :)|
(p.s.: I locate in Istanbul - Turkey)
by Skylagsd on 19 May 2012 - 08:28
Shopping and emotions definately should not go hand in hand. A Higher Price does not always mean you are buying qaulity. Some dogs might be great dogs separetly but together they might not be the greatest match.
Why dont you put the pedigree of the pup on here so someone might be able to give you some help and guidance.