German Shepherd Dog > Whats up in Eastern Germany (22 replies)
Whats up in Eastern Germany
by Der dritte Mann on 03 May 2012 - 08:57
by Jenni78 on 03 May 2012 - 13:14
|My sentiments exactly!|
by Ibrahim on 03 May 2012 - 13:22
by Oskar1 on 04 May 2012 - 09:11
|Hallo Der dritte Mann !|
Überrascht ?? Ich nicht, nicht im geringsten !
No surprise at all !
I just would like to see the faces of peopel buying a SchH 1 dog, when they tell that dog to sit, and it takes a sh..t !!
by Oskar1 on 06 May 2012 - 10:44
|Hey "Der dritte Mann",|
setz Dich mal mit mir in Verbindung !
by Blitzen on 06 May 2012 - 11:33
|Hi Ulli. Did I miss something important because I can't read German?|
How are you?
by Oskar1 on 06 May 2012 - 11:59
|Hey, how are you yourself ?|
I am doing fine, thanks for asking.
Well, there was a posting, that was quite interesting - about fake trials, I believe you call them "Ghost Trials" , a guy wrote about one of them to the SV, and published it here on PDB - it was gone in no time.
So, actually nothing really new. Our Belgium friend recieves now his first letters from the SV - of course from their lawyers ! Aparantly, the SV is trying to bully him out of the SV - that's just what we waited for, it gives us a handle to legally fight this crap !
I wont write more, always having in mind that it might get deleted - I would feel bad about the wasted time !
But hey, pm me, and I will fill you in - or anybody else who wants to know !
by Oskar1 on 06 May 2012 - 12:05
|Oh by the way, the Vice president of the SV, has come to the conclusion that the Meter hurdle in your avatar, may be to harsh on a GSD - we should reconsider the use of it ! Wait and see - our "working" GSD will become a coach potatoe in no time - if he does not reasemble that allready ! He also deemed the the dog coming out of a down for a escape as to hard on a dog !|
by Blitzen on 06 May 2012 - 12:17
|Maybe I'd better use a different avatar, Ulli. I don't want to get busted for animal abuse.|
by Sunsilver on 06 May 2012 - 13:20
|Ulli, that's ridiculous and heartbreaking! |
I think the modern showline GSD is well on the way to becoming a couch potato. How many of them would be capable of this? (see photo below of police dog training of a GSD, around 1915.)
BTW, I've heard these trials called "Midnight trials", but never ghost trials. They are the reason a dog that is supposed to have a Sch 3 can't even do a decent bark and hold!
by zdog on 06 May 2012 - 14:28
|I'd be impressed if a lot of dogs going overseas and coming back titled only had a weak hold and bark, but could do the rest. It's not all that uncommon to get a dog that is doing less than when it left. Can't heel, can't track, can't out, can't do anything. Looks like they sat in a kennel for 6 months till the papers were signed, then sent home with a title. I wish it wasn't so.|
I used to think people were making this stuff up, till I witnessed it first hand.
by Stumpywop on 06 May 2012 - 14:35
|Sorry for seemign completely desnse but what are ghost trials/midnight trials?|
From what peopel ahve said (happy to stand corrected) my understanding is that people send their GSDs to Germany to be titled. The dogs are away from their owners/handlers/families for a number of months and get sent hiome with the relevant paperwork.
If the dogs can't do as much when they return home as they canwhen they first went, does this mean there's no further training, no trials, no real or genuine titles? So are dogs receiving paperwork saying they're titled when in fact they are not?
by Blitzen on 06 May 2012 - 15:13
"I used to think people were making this stuff up, till I witnessed it first hand" Zdog.
by Blitzen on 06 May 2012 - 15:15
|Stumpywop, for me the most ironic part is that we still keep sending our dogs over there to the same trainers.|
by Gustav on 06 May 2012 - 16:37
|Some of us have been telling you this stuff for years....and we were the worst people in the world....Tsk Tsk. The handwriting has been on the wall for decades now and the apologist have stauchly defended these things as nonexistant and BASHING. I guess better late than never??????|
by Blitzen on 06 May 2012 - 16:52
|Gustav, too bad there are no reliable dog trainers or dog breeders in the US, isn't it?|
by joanro on 06 May 2012 - 21:16
|It was suggested to me several (seven) years ago that I didn't need to bother training my GSL, that I could just send him to Germany and buy a schH title. Better yet, just send his papers and buy a title, I was told. So I've known about this fraud for years. By the way, I did train him myself and titled him.|
by Jenni78 on 06 May 2012 - 22:03
|Sounds fantastic! Where do I sign?! |
by GSD Admin on 06 May 2012 - 23:07
|"Well, there was a posting, that was quite interesting - about fake trials, I believe you call them "Ghost Trials" , a guy wrote about one of them to the SV, and published it here on PDB - it was gone in no time."|
There was no thread/post deleted unless it was in a different name. Please quit blaming and flaming us as we did not touch the thread or post. The OP went back inside the post and edited it out and you want to blame us? We did not touch it. Please get your facts straight before you blame the admins and or this site.
by nypiper127 on 07 May 2012 - 00:27
|I may be a little naive here....but it's a lot like kids...Why have them if you aren't going to raise them yourself!!!|