German Shepherd Dog > White Spot Gene (13 replies)

White Spot Gene
by lacylou1 on 01 May 2012 - 19:06
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I have a black with tan point AKC registgered German shepherd male.  I took him to visit a tan and black CKC female for the purpose of producing a pup for my son-in-law.  I know all the arguements for not breeding to produce more pups.  This male is 6 years old and has never been bred and probably never willl again.  (I had a very bad experience after having an older dog neutered and it died.) My question is that the owner of the female (who lives 90 miles away).  now tells me the pups have unusual white markings and apparently her female carries the white spot gene.  I counted back from the day she said the pup were born and it is in the time frame my dog was there.  I just want to know if anyone has a simliar experience.  I don't know whether to believe the lady or not, or do you think thre is something "funny" going on?
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by Ibrahim on 01 May 2012 - 19:14
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you mean markings like those on the face, behind ears and chest?
Or do you mean white hairs on toes or a patch on the chest?

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by lacylou1 on 01 May 2012 - 19:55
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I haven't seen pups yet or seen any pictures.  I am waiting to get more information from the owner of female.
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by Ibrahim on 01 May 2012 - 20:02
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Some white hairs on toes and a small patch on chest is common in some lines, whereas white markings and whites on inside of thighs is not common nor acceptable according to the standard.

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by Blitzen on 01 May 2012 - 20:53
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When you see pics, google "panda german shepherds" and see if they look similar. If you are in doubt that your dog sired the litter, assuming it will be registered, ask for DNA on the puppies before signing the registration application. If they won't be registered, nothing you can do.
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by Hundmutter on 01 May 2012 - 21:35
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by CMills on 01 May 2012 - 22:08
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You can't really do anything until you see exactly what they are talking about, i.e. where and how much white. I've had pups from import parents with tips of toes white, and a white spot on chests.  That is not unusual.  You can also DNA the pups if you are in doubt the pups are sired by your male.
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by aceofspades on 01 May 2012 - 23:35
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I have a bi colour male who is predominantly black from a black and tan saddleback mom and dad and he had a moderate white patch on his chest.
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by YogieBear on 02 May 2012 - 01:42
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Is Fero in this line?

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by yellowrose of Texas on 02 May 2012 - 06:37
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A large quantity of  my pups out of Cadett v BuseckerSchloss and the fluss tAL LINE BRED to a chezh male had tips of toes , and a tiny spot on chest. Even the sable had a tiny touch of white on chest..

All import lines. WGWL/SL old lines not new ones.
Dieter out of Enclavehof/SteffenHaus has tips of his toes with white...only front paws..

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by kitkat3478 on 02 May 2012 - 12:34
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I also get a few white toes here and there, I used to say "what the...",usually they grow out, or fade out. There are plenty of lines that produce tippy toes.(as long as thats all it is).
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by Hundmutter on 02 May 2012 - 14:40
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There are plenty of lines that produce a white spot on the chest as well; its become more common with West German dogs and thus more common in UK dogs.  Its never reckoned to be particularly important, "if thats all it is";  'though personally I don't like it much.
I am much more concerned with the other stuff the OP wrote, than whether this litter has little white toes and/or a small white bib, or whether they have b... great white patches all over their faces like "Panda Shepherds".
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by yellowrose of Texas on 02 May 2012 - 21:02
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 had TO LAUGH  at that one.

I would be real CONCERNED if there were big WHITE spots for sure.. I get your WONDER, THOUGH

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by yellowrose of Texas on 02 May 2012 - 21:04
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   My  first question is/???  DID you witness this breeding?

   Have you ask for a DNA of the pups  ,?  If not get her a letter now.

   HAVE  you been to see pups/?
   Did you have a written agreement to your part in this Questionable breeding?

   Do not sign your part of the breeders application until the DNA of these two are done and then submit the pups as proof of sire /as the only sire

  I smell a skunk~!!
  
  You need to have learned a valuable lesson..Never let anyone use your dog for breeding that you know nothing about...OR DO NOT  go breeding for a pup from someone you know nothing about ..both ways is asking for   disaster.

 YR
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