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What do you think about? by mentayflor on 30 April 2012 - 17:49 |
Will an untrained dog protect it's owner? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4ZIGHkGF-M&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4upJPlOurWg I know it is an advertising, but i wonder if this is true in real life. |
mentayflor by Ibrahim on 30 April 2012 - 20:43 |
| I wonder what the real-life senario would be without attacker putting on a sleeve and carrying a stick and approaches the victim in a more normal behavior and then attacks without a prior warning !!! Ibrahim |
by DDRCzechFan on 30 April 2012 - 20:52 |
| I agree with Ibrahim, it's impossible to say, being as that the situation to which the dog was presented is not considered a "real life situation". |
DDRCzechFan by Hired Dog on 30 April 2012 - 22:15 |
| Untrained dog will not protect....I have seen it many times and picked up the pieces many more of those who did not listen and were unlucky enough to find out. Unless that dog happens to be a Fila, I would not bet my life on any dog that is untrained to protect me or a loved one. Having said that, let me insert here that the few dogs, Malinois, shepherds, etc, that may do it without any training, based strictly on genetics, the general public could not live with or handle. |
by GSDguy08 on 30 April 2012 - 22:43 |
| Hired Dog, you can't say untrained dogs will not protect. I have seen a few cases just in the past year, just here in Tennessee on the news.......where regular house pets went after the person who broke into their house. These were not breeds "known" for being great protectors by any means, but they did when the real situation came up. The dogs in the video posted though.......I call it malarky, and sorry, but weren't most of them showlines? (Not trying to start a debate) I just clicked the video to see if it was the one I had watched in the past. I've seen some videos of green dogs, no agitation or training done before, light up like crazy when threatened. Would they attack if their owner or handler was being attacked, in a real situation, who knows..... This video would give more credibility if they got rid of the sleeve, and used different lines, different breeds, many different dogs, etc etc. |
GSDguy08 by Berniemac on 30 April 2012 - 22:45 |
| What idiot is going to approach a big German Shepherd like that in the hopes that it is not trained? |
Berniemac by 4 mals2sheps on 30 April 2012 - 23:24 |
| First off if you have not been in that situation how can you comment about what a trained or untrained shepherd or mal would or wouldn't do. Here's the story .. a well known lets call him a unpredictable sort of man lived in our small country town one day my brother and I went to our small town store parked in the most far away spot. I had my shepherd (showline )with us as we were leaving this man( lets call him pegleg because he did have one , no insults intended)approached us yelling and carrying on about how young punks don't respect and park in the handicap space which we were no way even near them. Well as he came closer my Falko (shepherd ) not trained to protect, jumped out of the car stood between me and Pegleg as he was coming swinging his cane my dog at that point did not hesitate to help himself to a little bit of flesh no puncture wounds but one extra large black and blue spot. As the store owner who, also had dealing with this man already called police and he did get ever minute of it on camera and there were other eye witnesses . My dog did not get into trouble because of his actions .Pegleg moved not long after that . So until you have been there maybe you shouldn't comment , I trust every one of my dogs to protect me .( This man shot a neighbors dog hung it in there tree painted red) |
by live4schutzhund on 30 April 2012 - 23:52 |
Not very motivated...The first video irked me in an off topic way and I cant get passed it.  Sorry folks. |
live4schutzhund by Hired Dog on 01 May 2012 - 00:06 |
| Well, ladies and gentlemen, yes, I can say it, with authority. A dog that is pylo erecting and screaming/barking, whatever, is NOT protection.. A dog that engages an assailant who is not running away or backing off and stands up to the pain that comes from being kicked, punched, etc, is protecting. Would anyone in here want to bet their life, their loved ones lives on a house pet, on a dog that has not been bred, selected, raised and trained to protect? Yes, I read these stories on the news too, and I laugh...I also get sad when a good friend of mine purchased a male Doberman several years a go and while out walking it, she was assaulted and raped, while the dog watched and did nothing. There is a huge difference between KNOWING the dog will do the job and hoping it will and for my money, I will bet on the dog that has been trained, the exception being those rare dogs that will take on a human out of civil aggression, but, again, the average person could not deal with one. I agree the video is a joke and I knew Bob 25 years a go...not a pretty picture or story so I will leave it here. |
by Chaz Reinhold on 01 May 2012 - 01:16 |
| I was very impressed with the second video. Bob trained that dog in one day, or she only wears the purple skirt to Airport Park...loved the music too. It reminded me of soft porn. I had the feeling she would meet up with a sweaty plumber. But in all seriousness, that lady is a moron. Why would risk going to the same park with your baby where thugs hang out, and you've already been mugged. That's just asking for it! |
Chaz Reinhold by GSDguy08 on 01 May 2012 - 01:45 |
| For anyone who may refer to my comment about "they were showlines"....I just think they needed a variation.....that's all. More than just one "type" so to speak. |
by Supertanker on 01 May 2012 - 02:38 |
| True story... I had an untrained female Rottweiler who caught a would be burglar in the backyard. Nothing special about her breeding just a backyard breed from around the way. She basically tore almost every shred of clothes off the man. She was in such a frenzy when the police arrived they just stood there and watched while she took a bite outta crime. I let her chew on him until I got tired. I finally called her off and took her in the house. The police jumped the 6 foot fence and apprehended the suspect. Later they called me to identify the suspect. Amazing they ask me if I could ID the suspect. I say yea, the half naked, bleeding guy with dog bites all over his body... My dog's name was "Evil". That was her name, but she was perhaps the sweetest dog I've owned... I would go to war with Evil any day, any where, any time... |
Supertanker by Chaz Reinhold on 01 May 2012 - 02:49 |
| That's not fair. Rotts train themselves. They do what they want, when they want. |
by Two Moons on 01 May 2012 - 02:52 |
| mentayflor, The answer is actually a question, Would you protect a member of your immediate family? What about a friend? And then there is the stranger, would you protect a stranger? That's your answer. Moons. |
Two Moons by Chaz Reinhold on 01 May 2012 - 02:55 |
| Moons, are you saying any dog will protect if they are family and friend? |
by Two Moons on 01 May 2012 - 03:12 |
| This has been discussed before, I've seen mutts do it. Not all dogs would, but some would surprise you. I've seen trained dogs turn and run. Lets just say It depends. As for the question, will an untrained dog protect it's owner, I must say yes. Moons. |
by Chaz Reinhold on 01 May 2012 - 03:24 |
| Will someone win the lotto? I understand what you're saying, but I don't want some of the people on here thinking that a Golden will do such if loved. It is called genetics, and sad to say, most people on here own pretty mediocre dogs that would look just like the ones in the first video. Nothing against them or their dogs. Will every human run into a building on fire if they're not firemen? Some will, some will cry and others will record it on their phone. |
by Two Moons on 01 May 2012 - 03:36 |
| All things considered, the answer to the question as asked is still yes. I didn't watch the video, I seldom do. I just know what I've seen myself. Would you run into a burning house to save your own child, or would you say I wanted too but didn't. People die this way everyday, ordinary people, don't sell a dog short just because they're a dog. It's called love Chaz. Perhaps it is rare, but it happens, and it has nothing to do with breed or genetics when it happens. You do make a valid point but then again there is always the exception to any rule. Moons. |
by Chaz Reinhold on 01 May 2012 - 03:42 |
| My dog must really love my vehicle. |
by Two Moons on 01 May 2012 - 03:56 |
| LOL....... I had a bitch once who adopted a stray kitten, she had no problem protecting it from anything that posed a threat. Say your dog loves your car? LOL........ |
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