German Shepherd Dog > Rose does not want to nurse today (30 replies)

Rose does not want to nurse today
by fawndallas on 20 April 2012 - 23:49
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Rose does not seem to want to nurse the puppies today.  I checked her tits;  look ok except one.  The one is semi hard and has a knot beside it (on the stomach).

What can I do?
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by dragonfry on 20 April 2012 - 23:54
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How old are the pups now?
You can try using a warm compess on the affected glan and see if that helps with any soreness and allows the milk to be expressed. If the milk cakes in the glan you cluld have problems.
Call your vet in the morning.
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by yellowrose of Texas on 21 April 2012 - 00:06
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That would be my first guess.

SHe has problems and her tits are hard and impacted..

use warm wash rags and go run buy BAG BALM   at the Feed store or Tractor supply


 Mix some forumla ....1 can goats milk   evaporated or evaporated milk...one egg white, whipped, 1 tbs white karo....1 can drinking water w no choline..(same amt as the milk )refridgerate unused for only two days...
shake up well....put into a bottle and heat in water......DO NOT MICROWAVE>.it kills all the vitamins.

Put in a pet baby bottle from feed store or pets mart...feed pup laying on side..

HOw old are they?

I will not tell anyone how to tube feed. I would be in trouble  ...

if you use the warm compresses, she may take one pup at a time..

How many and how old are they/

YR
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by yellowrose of Texas on 21 April 2012 - 00:07
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Put one pup at a time and make her lay in her box while you keep her calm . Stroke mom under the chin while pup eats...put them on the other side from the one hard one...get very warm compresses on it now.

YR
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by fawndallas on 21 April 2012 - 00:38
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Ok.  I put a warm rag on it.  I also called the vet and sent pictures.  There is also a red spot about 1 inch from the tit.  The rest of the tits look ok.

There are 9 puppies and they were born on 4/16 (3 days old).  
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by DDRCzechFan on 21 April 2012 - 00:42
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We aren't thinking mastitis at this point, being as there was no mention of foul scented discharge, or yellow creame colored discharge, right? Other than that, I agree with what has been suggested, a warm rag, keep it clean, and until you know what it is, keep the puppies off of THAT particular teat.
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by yellowrose of Texas on 21 April 2012 - 00:43
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Just keep pups off her BO BO

make her let them nurse on other side...maybe three at a time..since there are 9
wow

But get some emergency Formula things in case of further problems...keep it always on hand  in two weeks they can slop slop out of a pie dish if it happens..


One question:  DID you give her calcium supplements along the way???????


YR
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by fawndallas on 21 April 2012 - 00:50
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I gave her 1 calcium tab the last week of the pregnancy and 2 tabs during the welping.  I am now giving her 2 tabs a day.  This is all per her vet.

Additionally, she gets 2 multi-vita a day.
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by yellowrose of Texas on 21 April 2012 - 01:01
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 Extra calcium in pill form causes mega problems

Only give a bitch calcium in real food..

Never give a whelping bitch any calcium pills

Most dog food has sufficient
 Feed canned dog food  top brand puppy food for choline and extras...and add yogurt and cottage cheese to dogs food and or   Powered milk on top of food daily


Calcium forms calcified problems in the breast ...and that gives your big problems...

German shepherds are prone to this...I never ever use Pill form Calcium supplements and warn against it..

I do not care what vet told you that..Unless your female has a medical problem and cannot digest calcium from dog food..no pills or calcium supplement in that form is needed..  If pups needed extra the pups would be in distress and that is not so..

When pups start to eat,,you feed things that give natural calcium not pills.


YR
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by GSD Admin on 21 April 2012 - 01:02
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Can you post the pics so we can see them?

I would not give calcium past whelp and only if needed for a hard whelp, light contractions or a tired bitch.
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by CMills on 21 April 2012 - 01:05
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Some bitches just don't want to be momma's, not all dogs make good brood bitches. Maybe she's just one of them!  they're awful young for her to not be showing interest still.
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by yellowrose of Texas on 21 April 2012 - 01:06
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Also too much calcium can form  Stones in kidney or in the gall bladder called calcified stones.  Check how much calcium is in the 2 vitamins alone...adding a tab of calcium is not needed.  I have given one vit tab and one is all she probably needs.. What amt of calcium is in the vit...???

It has to go somewhere and the body holds on to it and it goes to the breast milk or the kidneys or the gall bladder.



Powdermilk is fabulous and easy for pups and mom

OR goats milk later when pups start to eat mush.

Mom will finish it up after the pups eat...Feed pups by themselves or Mom will eat it and they will not get any...

YR
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by JudyK on 21 April 2012 - 02:31
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I had the same thing with a new mom a few months ago and called my repro vet immediately.  You need to strip the milk out of the affected nipple until the redness subsides.  Initially the milk from that gland was pus like but as I got more of it out it cleared.  The vet prescribed some antibiotics and the compresses.  It was better the following morning. 
Judy
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by Jenni78 on 21 April 2012 - 02:39
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Sounds like mastitis, which is VERY painful (speaking from experience!) and can be serious if not caught and treated immediately. I wish I could remember what a mentor told me to use if it ever happened to my dogs...

While painful, expressing the milk is helpful in the longrun. 
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by Bhall on 21 April 2012 - 02:44
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Yes, you need to strip the milk.  I had to put my female on Antibiotics and it cleared up.  
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by Kalibeck on 21 April 2012 - 03:21
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Weigh those pups to make sure they are not losing weight, too. Good luck! jackie harris
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by Olga Ashley on 21 April 2012 - 10:28
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To me, it sounds like possibly mastitis.  I have never run into that problem so I'm not sure of how you may fix this.  Personally, I would take my bitch to a very good repro vet.  Also, make sure that you trim the puppies nails so they do not scratch, I have seen friend's bitches refuse to nurse due to long and very sharp puppy nails!  Problem was resolved after the nails were trimmed. 

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by Kalibeck on 21 April 2012 - 18:37
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Any updates?
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by Nans gsd on 21 April 2012 - 20:49
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I would definitely keep track of her temperature;  needs to be about 102.5;  not a lot higher, call your vet.  Nan
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by Sunsilver on 22 April 2012 - 05:20
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Nan, if my dog's temp was 102.5 degrees, I'd be calling my vet!
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