German Shepherd Dog > Top ASL Show Breeder brings in another German dog (33 replies)

by Kalibeck on 09 April 2012 - 21:31
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My girl Kali was the result of a ASL & GSL cross, her breeder was mentored by Charlotte of Char-Will Kennels, who imported several GSL males for her ASL dogs. She had a reasonable amount of success, judging by the trophies & ribbons in her office. And she has a very loyal clientel that come back for her dogs, year after year. If Kali was a fair representation, I sure understand why. Marko vom Lowental, Kali's sire, was one of her imports, & Kali's dam was an OFA excellent ASL X GSL bitch. jackie harris
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by VonIsengard on 09 April 2012 - 22:26
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What no one has mentioned yet is the huge market backlash against ASL dogs in recent years from the consumers themselves. Most breeders' pups go into pet homes, and even John Q. Public sees the extreme angulation of ASL dogs. I've lost track of how many people have asked me about my dogs and commenting that they don't look "slanted" like the other GSDs they've seen, and more and more puppy buyers are asking, in their terms, about toplines and angulation. Buyers don't want it. The buyer's market for ASL puppies is dwindling, and when German dogs make an appearance in AKC rings, where some people go to find a breeder, these people are gravitating to the German dogs almost every time.

I believe this will also have a profound impact on the types of dogs we see being presented in the AKC rings.
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by Blitzen on 10 April 2012 - 00:13
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I hope you are right, VonIsengard. That may signal the start of a good thing for the breed's future.
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by VonIsengard on 10 April 2012 - 01:33
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Maybe, maybe not.

So many puppy buyers are convinced they want a "GERMAN german shepherd" without really understanding what owning a strong dog entails. These are not their nieghbor's backyard bred couch potato- and not every breeder is clarifying that to their buyers.

Also, with the continuing rise in popularity of german lines, more and more mediocre german dogs are being bred simply because they're from import lines. Just as many crooks, if not more, breeding them as ASLs. A few more decades of that, can you imagine the mess we'll be in?

It's a double edged sword. Time will tell.
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by Agassiz1 on 10 April 2012 - 02:16
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Thank you for your kind comments about Waiko.  He is a very nice dog with excellent conformation, solid work and a great temperament.
It is so hard to see AKC judges look past him to inferior specimens ( in my opinion of course) and dump him, but it is what it is.
david
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by Blitzen on 10 April 2012 - 02:37
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I understand exactly how you feel, David. No matter if he ever finishes his AKC Ch or not, you will always  know you have one of the nicest GSL's imported to the US. I'd be proud to own him.
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by Agassiz1 on 10 April 2012 - 02:44
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I am!!
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by Blitzen on 10 April 2012 - 02:47
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Oh, damn, I was hoping to convince you to send him to FL LOL. I promise to let  him sleep on the sofa.
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by vonissk on 13 April 2012 - 00:48
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I just read my Review this morning and say the dog you are talking about Smiley. Haven't been around in a while but I am going to post two pics of ASL/GWL/DDR dogs. The black sable is my Mauli and she will be 3 the end of this month. The black pup, Voodoo, is 15 months old. Nefore I put the pics up I will say I also enjoyed the article by Maryellen Kish and I definately see change in the future and not so far away.
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by Ctidmore on 13 April 2012 - 21:00
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To VonIsengard:  I show mostly in obedience, rally, and agility, but also for fun show my own in conformation some times. My dogs are all either 1/2 AM/GSL or 3/4 GSL, just about EVERY time I am showing in conformation, people that are there to see the dogs will come to me and talk about how nice my dogs are. I KNOW I am not going to place, because of the professional handlers, but like you stated the public truly knows what is correct. :)  I have never seen them approach and talk to the ones showing the dogs that usually win.
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by Samba on 12 June 2012 - 17:38
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Might be seeing some of those WL crosses in the AKC breed ring yet. At a recent show, I noticed a puppy. He was out of a high select male ASL to a Czech bitch. Cute bugger with plenty of attitude.
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by Blitzen on 12 June 2012 - 23:14
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Sharee Moses bred to Danny v Wilhendorf and at least one female from that breeding is being shown at AKC shows and has won a point or 2.
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by Agassiz1 on 13 June 2012 - 12:35
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Update: Waiko just received his VA rating from SV judge and Kormeister Frank Goldlust at the USCA Sieger Show in Indianapolis in a very strong class.
Thanks for all the support from Team Waiko.
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by Blitzen on 13 June 2012 - 12:38
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Outstanding, David!! He's a beautiful dog and very deserving of that placement.
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