German Shepherd Dog > DDR male import to US original owner lost papers/documents - PLEASE HELP! (33 replies)
by johannagator on 06 April 2012 - 18:03
Thank you again sooooo much for helping me find information about my boy! Such an amazing sense of relief to know where he came from and who his biological parents are... You have been so very kind and I'm eternally grateful!!!
by aceofspades on 06 April 2012 - 18:18
|I am very glad Hukka was "barking up the right tree" so to speak. It is kind of like being adopted and not knowing where you came from. Yes, you can still enjoy life, enjoy your past, present and future, but you feel like something is missing. |
There are some great people on this forum and I can't think of anyone here, who if they had the information you were looking for, wouldn't come forward, even if they are a bit rough around the edges sometimes. I've learned that it takes a thick skin to hang in the dog world. LOL, but the bottom line is the people around here are pretty much okay, and many will go out of their way to offer help. I know, I've been a recipient of said help myself recently.
by Hutchins on 06 April 2012 - 18:28
|And once again, this thread proves that the PDB is so very valuable to the breed and is worth ignoring the drama that seems to darken its crediablity. Like aceofspades said, you gotta have thick skin and always expect some negativity, criticizim and assumptions from those who have nothing really to contribute. But still everyone is entitled their opinion and should be allowed to express it, as long as they are within the TOS. |
Once again, I credit the moderators to for keeping this forum on the right track!!
KUDOS TO YOU GUYS!
So can we see the pedigree on this wonderful boy? PLEASE?
by aceofspades on 06 April 2012 - 18:37
|I had no doubt in my mind, based on my own experience when needing help, that if someone had the information, they would never sit here and not speak up. This forum is invaluable and I have seen people come here with very little information about their dog, and leave knowing more than they ever dreamed they would find out.|
There is always going to be someone who offers a thought that has nothing to contribute.....just skim over them and pretend you didn't see them. I admit, I have taken the bait before in my own quest for help, but live and learn. I don't consider myself a purely novice GSD owner (not an expert either), but I did make a novice oversight. It can happen to the best of us.
I really hope that OP is comfortable enough to share more information about Socke's origin and pedigree.
by mfh27 on 06 April 2012 - 19:39
|So...who are Socke's parents and where did he come from?|
by johannagator on 06 April 2012 - 20:52
|Thank you again to everyone that offered kind words and assistance... I sobbed with joy & relief when I read Hukka's email about my boy.|
As I mentioned previously, I only had bits and pieces of information to go by and most of it was by word of mouth. It seems as though some of the information I was told previously may have been or was incorrect (DDR vs. West German).
For those of you who are genuinely interested about my wonderful boy these are the highlights of some of the information that Hukka was kind enough to provide to me:
My sweet boy is named: Socke vom Hexenkeller
Born: July 9, 2008
*Visco vom Haus Salztalblick SchH3 IP3,a
*Cäthe von den Wannaer Höhen SchH3,a
by mfh27 on 06 April 2012 - 21:02
|And pictures! Please post pictures!|
by johannagator on 06 April 2012 - 21:20
|Here ya go hope these pictures show up ok.... I must be doing something wrong. It worked fine when I loaded the picture yesterday but now I only see links to the images below. |
by Hukka on 06 April 2012 - 21:30
|I followed Socke's pedigree and did find one branch to DDR dogs. From his sire's side if you follow Visco-Quitta-Harro-Dasty-Eiko. Eiko's dam is Haifa v Schotterhof who was a DDR dog but that is so far back that in my opinion Socke's pedigree is west German. Haifa was born in 1978.|
by aceofspades on 06 April 2012 - 23:20
|Hmm. Interesting. My Sanjanna has a few von den Wannaer Hohens in her pedigree and as recent at grandmother. In fact, for some reason I was under the impression that the breeder I bought Janna from used to be von den Wannaer Hohen. If you want my breeders contact info pm me again and I will give it to you. For some reason I was under the impression that Wannaer Hohen was his ex-partners kennel, but I could be way off because I can't remember or find the information that led me to believe this. Anyway, I am fairly certain that if you can obtain contact with my breeder that he may be able to help you. Janna has Jill, Onyx, Olympia and Deika in her pedigree that I can think of off hand. I think there may be more. They are all on the dam's side. Janna has von den Wannaer Hohen in her dam, but on both the dam and sire side, so I know there is a connection.|
Anyway......I will happily share what information I have if you want it, if it gives you nothing, it will at least give you another point of contact.
ETA: I had my information incorrect. i went and did some digging. They had lots of dogs that trace back to von den Wannaer Hohen but they did not used to be von den wannaer hohen. It was von den Hohenluft. My error. It was bugging me so I had to dig until I found the info that I had found before and see if I was accurate or not. Turns out not.
by hexe on 07 April 2012 - 03:27
|johannagator, I'll preface this by explaining to you that there have been enough scammers and weasels come through these forums to make a cynic out of Mother Teresa. Consequently, given the rather odd saga you shared with this forum, I have to ask this:|
Just wondering....when did you enter Socke into the below site today? In fact, how did you even *know* about that site, "newbie" that you describe yourself to be?
I wish I wasn't so skeptical by nature, but the whole thing still smells like fish to me...
Your dog has quite a respectable background, pedigree-wise, and you certainly were fortunate to have been given him. Now that you know his full lineage, however, you should know that you can absolve yourself of any obligation to 'perpetuate the lines', because there is no shortage of these lines worldwide, in Europe or here in the US. Since you've already indicated that the costs of training and titling him are beyond your reach (as it is for many of us...no shame in that!), you're free to just enjoy him as a friend, family member and companion, and if it suits you to neuter him, you won't be depriving the breed of anything irreplaceable.
by johannagator on 07 April 2012 - 04:21
|One final note of thanks to everyone who were so generous to provide me with words of encouragement, a wealth of information, resources & contacts over the past few days. Your kindness & compassion has made a postive impact in my faith of the true goodness of most people.|
by aceofspades on 07 April 2012 - 05:11
|hexe.....I will go ahead and say that just by connecting the dots I am going to guess that the OP was directed to that site via hukka.|
by Hukka on 07 April 2012 - 12:36
|aceofspades, no I did not direct Johanna there. Johanna must have entered the info there after I gave it to her, she even list herself as the owner of the dog there. The only info I gave her came from the official SV Zuchtbuch band2008 page 321 where that litter is registered and the info is correct for that tättoo number.|