German Shepherd Dog > breeder in CO (15 replies)
breeder in CO
by winston74 on 04 April 2012 - 16:48
|I bought a puppy from adel haus german shepherds out of the stud V-Zeppo v. Stadt Mosbach and V-Jessie v. Taffhausstaff. She bought the female bred from Germany and got her akc registered in January and my puppy was born in November. I have not received any kind of paper work for my puppy yet. I have called and emailed with her and left messages but no response. She has more puppies listed. Im just wondering if anyone has heard of Christina Lanckriet she seems to do well with her dogs but just looking at anyone having experience doing business with her. I really love my puppy she is sweet and smart. I would like to show in conformation and other classes. Thanks|
by winston74 on 04 April 2012 - 19:03
|wondering if anyone has had any problems dealing with her or positives. something|
by aceofspades on 04 April 2012 - 19:21
|Importing a dog can delay registration of the litter. I've learned a lot about registering an imported dog as i am currently in a similar position as you are. the sire of my girl was an import. If you look back through my posts you should find a thread titled 2 years and no akc papers. There is a LOT of good advice in there on how to proceed with obtaining your papers. i am happy to report that mine should be here within the next couple of weeks, although I won't completely let out the sigh of relief until I have them in hand, I am optomisitc that i will see them soon. I have been waiting nearly two years. My girl was born in June 2010.|
by trixx on 04 April 2012 - 20:40
|i have imported a dog from germany and it took me 5 months to get all the paper work done through AKC which also included the DNA, then you have to ad on the litter reg , so i would say it should be done by 6 months at the latest.|
by trixx on 04 April 2012 - 20:44
|ok the mom was reg with AKC in jan, then you add on 2 months for DNA ( march ) and then up to 2 months for the litter reg which would give you May, that is when you should get your papers by.|
by hexe on 04 April 2012 - 23:03
|I've not heard of any buyers of Adel Haus dogs that haven't received their papers, and as trixx mentioned, the process is somewhat more detailed when it involves a bitch that is imported in whelp. If you don't have them by the end of May, and haven't received a plausible explanation of why, THEN you've got an issue.|
by leoetta on 04 April 2012 - 23:41
|I had two females bred last year in Germany, one was a new import, the other was already AKC registered as she was imported the year before. On the litter from the new import, she came with her SV paperwork and the stud certificate from Germany. I had to send to Germany to get both the Beischenigung letter for her transfer as well as the deck/stud beischenigung certificate. Once the female is AKC registered you can send in the DNA, once they receive it in house they will register the litter if you have the stud certificate back from Germany, you do not have to wait for the DNA to be processed (2 months). The sending back and forth to Germany to recieve all the documents you need can take some time and you have to hope nothing gets lost, which does happen, I send everything FedEx now.|
I will tell you that my litter was born on 7/27/11 I had the litters individual registration applications in my hands on 10/11/11, so at 11 weeks of age. I mailed them to the clients once I received them. However, she may not have sent in to Germany for the breeding certificate until after the litter was born, so maybe that is the delay, she also may have had to wait for her stud certificate. However, you should still at least receive a response to your emails, maybe she is on vacation? I bet you though that she just got a bit behind on sending her stuff to Germany is all I can imagine. I started my process while the female was still pregnant. Be understanding and give her a reasonable amount of time as stated above, but no more than that. I'd start throwing a fit in June if I didn't have my papers. I've never heard anything bad about her so I think she's got a pretty good reputation and have shown with her, so I'm pretty confident you'll get your paperwork. I don't believe anyone that shows at that level and has a long running business is intentionally out to screw anyone on paperwork, I'm sure it'll be fine.
by winston74 on 05 April 2012 - 02:22
|It would be nice if she answered back in some form and let me know what was going on. I understand how life can get at times but i have been trying for a month to get a hold of her. It would be nice to have a copy of her pedigree tho while I wait. So I understand about the paper work and can wait on that no problem. I guess I will not contact her anymore and wait.|
The puppy I got is fantastic and just what I wanted.
by leoetta on 05 April 2012 - 02:31
|Well I could't find the females pedigree here on the database but here is a link to the sire's pedigree, I know it's not what you want probably but at least it's something :) Hope you get your answer and your paperwork soon. http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=682678|
by hexe on 05 April 2012 - 04:42
|I notice that on her website, on the 'for sale' page, she's listed a young female pup she'd kept back for herself that was the 2011 USA Vice Puppy Siegerin, citing "life circumstances"--so perhaps there's something going on that is making it difficult for her to return calls? |
Geez, even as I wrote that I could feel my eyes rolling...<sigh> communication with customers AFTER the sale is a BIG point of contention in my opinion, especially in this time of smart phones and mobile internet and text messaging and email and so on, and so on. These days, about the only valid excuse I accept for someone not returning a call or other form of contact within 7 days (at most) is that they were hospitalized, or trapped in an area where cell signals don't exist (living in such a spot, I know that they DO still exist, even here in the US) for an extended period of time.
Aaaannyway, winston74, it doesn't seem out of line to me if you contacted her every week or so until you at least have gotten an update on where the process is at present...Glad to hear that your little girl is everything you dreamed of, though!
by Western Rider on 05 April 2012 - 04:49
SG 9 Jessie v. Taffhausstaff Y68811, 11.10.09, (Quenn Löher Weg - Quinta Steinway-Park
by Dobermannman on 05 April 2012 - 08:25
|Christina used to train with Denver Area Working Group, the defunct UScA club when I was President.|
(Seven or eight years ago). She buys some nice showline GSD but I would not have anything to do with her.
She is NOT a nice person in my personal opinion.
Dubheasa Germania (11/05/99-08/11/08) SchH III M R Brevet AKC WD III AWD 1 STP 1 CD WAC TT
Ascomannis Jago (06/20/03) SchH III AKC WD III AWD I TT WAC
Belatucadrus (08/14/05) DS BH TT MR I
Flannchadh von der Bavarianburg (5/21/08) BH STP I
by winston74 on 05 April 2012 - 13:33
|thanks everyone i will hope for the best.|
by CMills on 06 April 2012 - 01:28
|I have purchased 3 pregnant bitches bred in Europe over the past few months, and they were shipped to me 2 to 3 weeks bred. I immediately sent in for their individual AKC papers, which took about 2 wks, and sent their DNA right after recieving the AKC papers, which took another 2 wks, then sent in their individual litter reg applications, which took another 2-3 weeks. so adding up all the weeks of waiting for the paperwork, the whole process took 6-7 weeks, still in plenty of time for the pups to be born/weaned/sold before I needed the papers. I always had papers in hand by the time the pups were sold at 8-9 weeks.|
by yellowrose of Texas on 06 April 2012 - 02:43
I agree with CMILLS>.all these delays on puppy registration litter problems with any import female or male is non acceptable..sorry but if you plan all these breedings surely all know ,,,,you have an obligation to the public and AKC also has rules for breeders to follow and they also require a log kept of all transactions and I know that AKC is not my favorite organization for registry BUT it is all we have here..
SO there is NO good valid reason Puppy papers should not be in all breeders hands OR DO NOT BREED .
WAIT till you have the proper valid papers before you send all these people into Brain FREEZE and all this anxiety of no papers is senseless.
If I had run my breeding program like some of these postings we have had in the last 5 months on db, with worrying buyers, I would have been pure failure.
And I did not run my two business' like that either..WHEN I sold an Amythist to someone it had a paper with it saying it was an AMYTHIST. or an Emerald or a MINK COAT or a FOX FUR...
Have our days of GOOD BUSINESS ethics gone to THE DOGS??
Sounds like it...
by Cesna on 06 April 2012 - 21:28
|Ok.. I am the owner/breeder of these puppies... I am currently going through a divorce that has been very hard on me and my children. There is no excuse for the delay in paperwork other than my laptop and mobile phone were taken.|
The puppies are super puppies and for the first time, I have kept a longcoat female to show (she is my 8 year old daughters favorite). One puppy went in to a search and rescue home; 1 puppy in show/working home; and 2 more that were placed together in a show/working home (and were placed without full payment simply because lifes turmoil happens to all of us)
So, before people start ranting, they must understand that life can change in the blink of an eye...and perhaps before judging, one should find out more indepth is going on...